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lol okay... but can't say why

Posted By: Zeous
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 04:52 pm

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o NEW: Dateline is on the Lauren MdCluskey case tonight.
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 09:43 pm [ID# 1948026] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: Is the expectation that a guy like this be stopped even realistic? I mean, the Supreme Court doesn't seem to think so...
Zeous - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 09:56 pm [ID# 1948028] [reply]
o NEW: Yeah? I agree that cops don't have a duty to protect any one individual
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:03 pm [ID# 1948029] [reply]
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o NEW: IF by follow the money you mean go back to like the 1300s, then sure.
ironman1315 - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:37 pm [ID# 1948036] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: Aren't civil and common different types of law? There's zero incentive for the state to write a statute where members of their enforcement arm would have liability for lack of action. Civil law is statutory, is it not?
Zeous - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:51 pm [ID# 1948038] [reply]
o NEW: No. And you’re wrong. (nm)
ironman1315 - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 07:12 am [ID# 1948045] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: lol okay... but can't say why
Zeous - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 04:52 pm [ID# 1948075] [reply]
o NEW: I believe I explaned this to you before but here
ironman1315 - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 10:51 pm [ID# 1948087] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: "law that is derived from custom and judicial precedent"... and where do those customs and judicial precedents come from? Juries of peers, right? And who makes up juries? (nm)
Zeous - -- Thursday 13 June 2019, at 01:08 am [ID# 1948151] [reply]
o NEW: No. Juries are fact finders. Judges decide what the law is. Seriously go do some research. (short)
ironman1315 - -- Thursday 13 June 2019, at 08:43 am [ID# 1948155] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: No, that has not always been the case nor is it still in a court of record, else how could jury nullification ever be a thing.
Zeous - -- Thursday 13 June 2019, at 09:31 am [ID# 1948157] [reply]
o NEW: Fun fact, jury nullification is a construct of criminal law since prosecutors can't appeal a non-conviction (they can sentences though).
ironman1315 - -- Thursday 13 June 2019, at 10:05 am [ID# 1948159] [reply]
o NEW: Gee. Zeous I dont know what could they have done ?
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:25 pm [ID# 1948033] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: Gee. Zeous I dont know what could they have done ?
stats guy - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 10:19 am [ID# 1948053] [reply]
o NEW: yeah well if I can't be handsome I guess I have to settle for funny and amusing (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 11:51 am [ID# 1948066] [reply]
o NEW: I wonder if you know what duty means in this case.
ironman1315 - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:36 pm [ID# 1948035] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: The failure goes beyond the UofU (not absolving them at all here).
480ute - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 06:41 am [ID# 1948044] [reply]
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UTEopia icon NEW: This was handled poorly by the UofU police and SLPD and I feel for the parents. However, it seems that the parents have gone from engaging in efforts in an attempt to prevent the same mistakes from being made in the future to exacting a pound of
UTEopia - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:06 pm [ID# 1948030] [reply]
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o NEW: U if U PD has a long history of not allowing Slcpd on campus and following the U's request that slc dispatch refer all calls back to the U. I've seen it first hand. No excuse for not accepting help from Slcpd (short)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:10 pm [ID# 1948031] [reply]
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UTEopia icon NEW: I don't know how jurisdictional issues are handled. The murder occurred on campus, but much of the harassment and other interaction between perp and victim were off campus. She called both UofU and SLPD and neither provided any assistance.
UTEopia - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:23 pm [ID# 1948032] [reply]
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o NEW: sadly my experience with the jurisdiction issue is that the U has basically forbidden SLcPd from being on the campus unless they are specifically invited by UPD (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:28 pm [ID# 1948034] [reply]
Diehard Ute icon NEW: Jurisdiction is determined by where the victim lives, or is at the time of the crime.
Diehard Ute - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 10:47 pm [ID# 1948037] [reply]
o NEW: correct. And her reaching out to Slcpd is indicative that she felt she was. Not beng heard by UPD
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 11:00 pm [ID# 1948039] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: FlyFishingUte you beautiful bluffing bastard you (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 10 June 2019, at 11:32 pm [ID# 1948041] [reply]
o NEW: why do I even waste time Responding to you ? I must've been really bored
FlyfishingUte - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 06:00 am [ID# 1948042] [reply]
SforkUte icon NEW: ^ drunk again. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 08:34 am [ID# 1948047] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: You missed the point - I was applauding your savvy (nm)
Zeous - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 04:53 pm [ID# 1948076] [reply]
UTEopia icon NEW: I cannot remember all of the reported contact, but my recollection is that he followed her off-campus to restaurants, bars and workout places when she would not return her calls. Many of his threatening and abusive calls from off-campus. None
UTEopia - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 10:53 am [ID# 1948059] [reply]
UTEopia icon NEW: Is FFUte the alter-ego of Diehard or visa versa? (nm)
UTEopia - -- Tuesday 11 June 2019, at 10:54 am [ID# 1948060] [reply]
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