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It's a timeline and a Senate thing...

Posted By: Rocker Ute
Date: Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 03:25 pm

I used the Uno analogy because I think it applies. So suppose they move to impeach today. That impeachment process could be dragged out to mid elections, to which even if found guilty in the impeachment process, it would take 2/3 of the Senate to remove him from office. That will not happen.

Then that is fodder for a guy like Trump to claim witch hunts, incompetence among Democrats and 'total exoneration.' It'll work too. Or it may give him time to recover from the whole mess - we have a pretty short term memory.

PLUS, if he does win, and you've already impeached him but failed to remove him from office, you have almost no recourse in the next term, he would have to commit new impeachable offenses. Whereas if you wait, either he'll be removed from office by losing the election, or you have an option to pursue impeachment then with a probable stronger Dem presence.

Here is my prediction (which given my prediction that there was no chance Trump would be elected, I would take with a high degree of skepticism): Trump will lose the general election and once out of office the obstruction of justice charges will then be brought against him, and hopefully justice will be served.

If you listened to Mueller, he basically said because there was no constitutional way to indict a sitting president, they didn't even use it as a consideration, but he was not found to not be guilty of obstruction. In other words, he obstructed but there is no recourse the Justice Department could even take.

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Rocker Ute icon NEW: I think Pelosi is smart to put the brakes on impeachment
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 09:41 am [ID# 1947510] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I agree. The Senate won't convict so Trump will claim victory. Hell, he claims victory even when he can't. Just look at his tweets after the Mueller presser. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 09:45 am [ID# 1947512] [reply]
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o NEW: agreed. They are unlikely to get the votes needed in the senate. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 09:46 am [ID# 1947513] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: Agreed. I also don't understand why some Dems are still pushing to get Mueller in front of Congress.
480ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:22 am [ID# 1947515] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: They expect to gain the theatrics to get re-elected. They want to be the ones who put Mueller on the stand and "asked the hard questions". Then they can point their finger to it as to how they stood for America. Theatrics, nothing more than that. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:30 am [ID# 1947517] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: It just goes to show how tone-deaf these people are.
480ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:35 am [ID# 1947518] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Politics in America are a weird conflict of macro and micro issues...
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:43 am [ID# 1947521] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: "they don't want to appear to be soft on liquor laws with their neighbors."
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:50 am [ID# 1947522] [reply]
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o NEW: What happened to "do the right thing"? (short)
'ZonaUTE - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:27 am [ID# 1947516] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Our politicians gave up on doing the right thing long before any of us had a vote...
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 10:37 am [ID# 1947519] [reply]
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Utahraptor icon NEW: It will be a new ball game if the Supreme Court orders Trump to comply with a House subpoena to turn over documents it needs to investigate the President and his administration.
Utahraptor - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 12:50 pm [ID# 1947528] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I think there are way too many Senators that are just like McConnell, Cruz, Cornyn, and Graham for that to ever happen. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 01:07 pm [ID# 1947532] [reply]
Utahraptor icon NEW: I said some, not all. If even 10 Republican senators voice support for impeachment, Pelosi might change her mind .....
Utahraptor - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 02:44 pm [ID# 1947554] [reply]
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o NEW: I keep hearing that, but....
UteBrave - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 01:19 pm [ID# 1947538] [reply]
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o NEW: trump would use any move to impeach him as a means to martyr himself. Pelosi is right not to try and impeach right now
FlyfishingUte - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 02:28 pm [ID# 1947551] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Correct. He's already using the investigation as an excuse for him not getting anything done on infrastructure.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 02:47 pm [ID# 1947555] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: It's a timeline and a Senate thing...
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 30 May 2019, at 03:25 pm [ID# 1947560] [reply]
o NEW: Are we really afraid of losing the fascist vote? (nm)
UteBrave - -- Friday 31 May 2019, at 10:51 am [ID# 1947621] [reply]
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