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No, it's not ok. There is a blurry line between meddling and voter fraud.

Posted By: jhill
Date: Monday, April 29, 2019 at 04:56 pm

Dems want to lean one way and say it was fraud and it turned the election. Republicans are saying nothing is new and it didn't effect the outcome. I just can't take anyone serious who is opposed to new voter ID laws. Sorry. Like I said, this Russia story more to do with Trump winning and making excuses than the integrity of our voting system IMO.

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480ute icon NEW: With technology hitting such advanced stages, are any future elections safe?
480ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 12:51 pm [ID# 1945975] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I can see certain politicians claiming real quotes and videos are really deepfakes. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 01:00 pm [ID# 1945977] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: Bernie ordered one showing his homes and bank accounts don't make him a millionaire, thanks to his capitalistic behavior. That one shouldn't be exposed, for the greater good. (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 10:19 pm [ID# 1946008] [reply]
jhill icon NEW: Already making excuses for 2020? Why not another Russia type hoax? I heard Trump visited China before he ran. Run with that. (nm)
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 02:37 pm [ID# 1945981] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Just curious, not trying to start a debate. Do you believe there was no Russian interference in our elections? (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 02:48 pm [ID# 1945982] [reply]
jhill icon NEW: We've established every single big country meddles in every other countries elections to a point, Including us. So yes.
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 03:02 pm [ID# 1945985] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Sorry, clarify further, I asked if you believed there was no Russian interference, and you responded, "Yes." But then said all countries are doing it? So does that mean you actually believe there is interference? (long)
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 03:41 pm [ID# 1945988] [reply]
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jhill icon NEW: No, it's not ok. There is a blurry line between meddling and voter fraud.
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 04:56 pm [ID# 1945994] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Regarding voter ID laws. This is from the ACLU, so I know you won't believe any of it, but here it is anyway.... (long)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 05:07 pm [ID# 1945996] [reply]
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jhill icon NEW: If you really cared about ID and what it takes to get one you would have addressed these things. (yes it's a meme) Or at least pretended to care.
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 07:06 pm [ID# 1946000] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: So, you really don't care about what the ACLU addressed. You would just rather post right wing talking points. Got it.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 09:41 pm [ID# 1946003] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: A few quick points, I know not my style
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 05:57 am [ID# 1946011] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: We won't agree on how to get to a better place, but I think most people realize that the situation is predetermined to a large extent.
480ute - -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 08:33 am [ID# 1946019] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: The Steele document was not released to the public until after the election.
pangloss - -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 11:18 am [ID# 1946044] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: You write "the Obama administration was aware of possible Russian interference and did nothing to quell it." They did try to stop it. They did not publicize it fearing to look partisan.
pangloss - -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 12:50 pm [ID# 1946057] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: If that was the case why are the Justice Democrats trying to get money out of politics?
480ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 03:50 pm [ID# 1945990] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: I didn't even bring up Trump. This is OUR democracy, and literally EVERY candidate is a potential victim, INCLUDING Trump.
480ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 03:34 pm [ID# 1945986] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: . (nm)
480ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 03:39 pm [ID# 1945987] [reply]
jhill icon NEW: Give me a break. There hasn't been anymore or less meddling than any other election. It's just that Trump won and the Dems ran with it. And all of a sudden it's "Voter fraud" If Russia truly changed the outcome we will talk.
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 04:49 pm [ID# 1945993] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Sure. Seems to me it's the GOP that screams "Voter fraud" at every turn. It was Trump who formed the voter fraud commission because he couldn't stand the fact that he lost the popular vote. You've used it yourself to CYA if Trump loses in 2020. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 05:00 pm [ID# 1945995] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Okay, then let's talk.
480ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 08:14 pm [ID# 1946002] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: So I take it you're not really interested in discussing this.
480ute - -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 06:08 pm [ID# 1946092] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Lol. This coming from a guy who only a few days ago was making excuses in case Trump lost.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 04:23 pm [ID# 1945991] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Watch Black Mirror on Netflix (nm)
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 02:53 pm [ID# 1945983] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: Seen every episode, and it only makes this more terrifying.
480ute - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 03:42 pm [ID# 1945989] [reply]
The Thrill icon NEW: "Shut up and Dance" episode, the one about the blackmail and webcams....happened to me last week.
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 05:34 pm [ID# 1945997] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: I've gotten some friends to watch the show, but quickly learned that I should tell them to skip episode one (to begin with anyway).
480ute - -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 09:08 am [ID# 1946028] [reply]
The Thrill icon NEW: Odd, that was the moment I realized I was going to love the show (short)
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 30 April 2019, at 05:50 pm [ID# 1946090] [reply]
o NEW: RE: With technology hitting such advanced stages, are any future elections safe?
AbsolUTE UTE - -- Monday 29 April 2019, at 06:47 pm [ID# 1945999] [reply]
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