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I wouldn't call it a road map. It lays out the facts and says Congress, the determination is up to you.

Posted By: ironman1315
Date: Friday, April 19, 2019 at 09:30 am

And I do agree that if he wasn't the sitting president it is likely he would be up on obstruction charges, but I don't find the case to be a slam dunk. Certainly a decent case, one that is triable outside of the contours of the presidency, but due to the squirrely facts and him being president Mueller did the right thing and punted to Congress. (Unfortunately, they won't do jack $#!+.)

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EUte icon NEW: This report is absolutely astounding.
EUte - -- Thursday 18 April 2019, at 10:08 pm [ID# 1945352] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Why was he trying so hard to obstruct? The guilt by suspicion is off the charts.
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 04:16 am [ID# 1945356] [reply]
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o NEW: I don't know why he was worried. The DOJ isn't willing to indict a sitting president. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 07:36 am [ID# 1945365] [reply]
Puget Ute icon NEW: The report certainly seems to imply that it is a roadmap for impeachment. And All of these charges will be live the second he leaves office.
Puget Ute - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 07:43 am [ID# 1945368] [reply]
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o NEW: I wouldn't call it a road map. It lays out the facts and says Congress, the determination is up to you.
ironman1315 - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:30 am [ID# 1945376] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: And even if Congress does try to do something, it will be on very partisan grounds because no one in the GOP dare cross their dear leader. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:38 am [ID# 1945378] [reply]
o NEW: And, let's be honest, the only way they will try to do something will be after 2020 (short)
ironman1315 - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:39 am [ID# 1945380] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: The instances of trump's people ignoring his direct order are telling. I heard it described as "malevolence tempered by incompetence." (nm)
pangloss - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:54 am [ID# 1945381] [reply]
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o NEW: Pelosi isn't going to impeach him. The ONLY reason she wants the full report is to try and torpedo his re-election. I agree with the rest of what you are saying (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:14 am [ID# 1945388] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: The Office of Legal Council told Mueller a sitting president could not be indicted. It wasn't a choice. Part 2 of the report assembles evidence while memories are fresh for future use (nm)
pangloss - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:37 am [ID# 1945396] [reply]
Puget Ute icon NEW: The report specifically referenced cover-up activities that appeared to be an attempt to hide activities that are unrelated to the investigation and unknown to the SC. Very likely these involve his business activities.
Puget Ute - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 07:41 am [ID# 1945367] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Image and power are the only things for Trump. Plenty of evidence that he has no vision or strategy or even the capacity to be strategic.
Rocker Ute - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:10 am [ID# 1945373] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: "even the capacity to be strategic." That is what has me puzzled. Can he really be as stupid as he seems in his dialogue and tweets? Or is it all a con to distract? I wouldn't be surprised either way. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:36 am [ID# 1945377] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: All signs point to "really that stupid" from the Mueller report to now multiple books written on the matter. Far too much corroboration to believe otherwise at this point. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:09 am [ID# 1945385] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Can't argue with that. And I suppose "stupid" is easier to take than "con". "Con" would entail a lot more unacceptable things. How great is it that we've regressed to the point where we are happier that our leader is simply stupid. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:13 am [ID# 1945387] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: What do UteBC, jhill, hammer and Vladimir Putin all have in common (besides enjoying shirtless pony rides?) (short)
Rocker Ute - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:13 am [ID# 1945374] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: But only Putin realizes that Trump is a buffoon. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 09:16 am [ID# 1945375] [reply]
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tarheelio icon NEW: Is that the Utefans.net list of conservatives? UteBC, jhill, hammer getting pounded for any comment by the rest of the board? (short)
tarheelio - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:11 am [ID# 1945386] [reply]
o NEW: BC and Hamert get pounded because of there incessant trolling. They both admitted it was fun for them to piss people off. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:24 am [ID# 1945389] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: I agree with them on a number of things, but not the blind support of Donald Trump. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:25 am [ID# 1945390] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: We haven't seen sacute for a while. He used to come here and brag up any "accomplishments" by Trump. But there haven't been any accomplishments lately. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:25 am [ID# 1945391] [reply]
REDrumU icon NEW: There are a number of conservatives on the board, but the majority of them aren't blind and are what I call true conservatives. Technically I'm conservative but not hell bent on pushing social crap... which pretty much makes me a lib comparatively. (nm)
REDrumU - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 10:50 am [ID# 1945399] [reply]
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SkinyUte icon NEW: I'll admit to being a little curious as to what constitutes "social crap" (nm)
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 12:09 pm [ID# 1945414] [reply]
o NEW: I think he means he doesn't want to legislate things like abortion or oppose gay marriage like many conservatives do. (short)
ironman1315 - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 03:16 pm [ID# 1945431] [reply]
UTE BC icon NEW: Also they aren’t gullible whiners when they lose. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 12:22 pm [ID# 1945417] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: To my knowledge, trump still hasn't accepted the Russians did anything other than collude with Clinton. (nm)
pangloss - -- Friday 19 April 2019, at 01:26 pm [ID# 1945424] [reply]
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