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Good question. Nobody really is, not 100%, because everyone has bias whether they like it or recognize it or not. There's no such thing as 100% unbiased reporting, it's impossible. This is why free speech and freedom of the press is so important.

Posted By: Zeous
Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 10:58 pm

And I would add to that no monopoly of mass media, because monopoly undermines free speech and freedom of the press in the sense that a monopoly can enforce its selective editing and bias broadly, and potentially use it for ill purposes.

Ancient blasphemy laws (to the western world) are an extreme form of this, where the Catholic church had a monopoly on "the press" basically, until the actual printing press was invented. Islam and other totalitarian cultures still in existence that punish dissent and criticism are other examples. The struggle between that culture and western Europe's culture of (relatively) free speech is peaking, it seems, and interesting to follow as hate speech laws are passed that plant the seeds of new blasphemy laws back into a civilization that had once eradicated such things. Tangent to the topic, but interesting to me.

Anyway, a mixture of biased voices (both intentional and intentionally attempting to limit bias) is better than limited sources with the same or similar bias. Because bias is inevitable. It's just a given. And that means there's really no such thing as a 100% reputable source because some things will be omitted etc.

So let multiple biased voices blend to provide balance and embrace the diversity of thought as a healthy thing. My $0.02.

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EUte icon NEW: Ruh-roh
EUte - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 08:05 pm [ID# 1944301] [reply]
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Riot West icon NEW: No! That is impossible! (nm)
Riot West - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 08:29 pm [ID# 1944302] [reply]
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o NEW: Isn’t Barr the only person who can bring charges?
UteBrave - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 08:32 pm [ID# 1944303] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: Whaaaaaaaat? Inconceivable! (nm)
SforkUte - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 08:32 pm [ID# 1944304] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Well, if Politicus USA says so...
Rocker Ute - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 09:19 pm [ID# 1944307] [reply]
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SkinyUte icon NEW: It’s being pretty widely reported now
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 09:22 pm [ID# 1944310] [reply]
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EUte icon NEW: Yes the random site I linked, and virtually every other news outlet on the planet, are all quoting the NY Times
EUte - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 10:38 pm [ID# 1944317] [reply]
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o NEW: Here's the NYT article:
ironman1315 - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 11:26 pm [ID# 1944323] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Exactly... more pointless pearl clutching from organizations desperate to claw back some of their reputation.
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 05:01 am [ID# 1944325] [reply]
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o NEW: I just feel like this Mueller report is like a cartoon
ironman1315 - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 08:59 am [ID# 1944338] [reply]
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EUte icon NEW: Sure, I should have linked the Business Insider or something. The one I did was completely random. Most people, myself included, seem to get stuck behind the NYT paywall.
EUte - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:05 am [ID# 1944341] [reply]
o NEW: Thing is, there is going to have to be redactions.
ironman1315 - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:14 am [ID# 1944343] [reply]
EUte icon NEW: Agreed. Like I said, redactions have to be non-politically motivated. (nm)
EUte - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:22 am [ID# 1944345] [reply]
o NEW: Sorry, I got your point confused with someone else's on another site.
ironman1315 - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 10:23 am [ID# 1944350] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: I should also note that other news sources reporting that the NY Times is reporting something is not confirmation of what the NY Times reported. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:32 am [ID# 1944346] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Serious question: who is reputable? I ask because I feel there will be no agreement on who is reputable. I feel that NPR and Reuters as well as CBS are reputable. But you know there are those out there who will vehemently disagree. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 09:26 pm [ID# 1944312] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Exactly, who is reputable? (long)
Rocker Ute - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 09:48 pm [ID# 1944315] [reply]
SkinyUte icon NEW: I get what you're saying, but expecting people to out themselves as sources (and completely destroy their lives and/or careers in the process) before reporting ANYTHING isn't realistic either. Especially with an administration who...
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 08:20 am [ID# 1944332] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: You reconcile it by reporting the facts instead of speculating about this sort of stuff...
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:11 am [ID# 1944342] [reply]
SkinyUte icon NEW: The problem, however, is that there is no "team" any more. My understanding is that they've all gone back to their day jobs, so there's no one who can make that sort of "official" statement any more. Mueller can't do it himself...
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:45 am [ID# 1944347] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Agree with what you say. I guess what it boils down to for me is I am done giving the media a pass on these types of reports. It does the nation no good.
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 11:06 am [ID# 1944354] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: Good question. Nobody really is, not 100%, because everyone has bias whether they like it or recognize it or not. There's no such thing as 100% unbiased reporting, it's impossible. This is why free speech and freedom of the press is so important.
Zeous - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 10:58 pm [ID# 1944321] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: These discussions are great, because this problem is only going to get worse, as the huge news groups continue to grow, and more independent news organizations form.
480ute - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 06:55 am [ID# 1944327] [reply]
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renegadefly icon NEW: Reputable news source?.......... (nm)
renegadefly - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 09:21 am [ID# 1944344] [reply]
SkinyUte icon NEW: So, the guy Trump hired specifically to either downplay or hide the report is doing exactly that. Gee, what a shocking development that is. (nm)
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 09:20 pm [ID# 1944308] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Last I heard is Democrats are throwing a temper tantrum like the little kids they are. Waa waa little baby snowflakes, Hillary lost, no collusion, Putin is a great friend, almighty Trump reigns supreme
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 09:25 pm [ID# 1944311] [reply]
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o NEW: What about Barack Hussein Obama? (short)
UtahFan from Germany - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 05:08 am [ID# 1944326] [reply]
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UtahFanSir icon NEW: You are talking about the greatest president this country has every seen. And likely ever will. (nm)
UtahFanSir - -- Wednesday 3 April 2019, at 10:47 pm [ID# 1944318] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: Ruh-roh
Charlie - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 11:16 am [ID# 1944356] [reply]
SkinyUte icon NEW: You do realize that there's a very, very simple solution to that problem, right? Release the report that "totally exonerates" Trump. Unless, of course, that's not actually what the report says at all. (nm)
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 01:37 pm [ID# 1944379] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: You do realize that there's a very, very simple solution to that problem, right? Release the report that "totally exonerates" Trump. Unless, of course, that's not actually what the report says at all.
Charlie - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 03:57 pm [ID# 1944394] [reply]
SkinyUte icon NEW: Ah, so NOW maintaining accepted political policies and procedures are suddenly important. Now that every single one of them up until now has been ignored or demolished by this administration. (nm)
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 05:36 pm [ID# 1944399] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: Ah, so NOW maintaining accepted political policies and procedures are suddenly important. Now that every single one of them up until now has been ignored or demolished by this administration.
Charlie - -- Thursday 4 April 2019, at 07:13 pm [ID# 1944404] [reply]
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