If he wasn’t covering up a crime, why did he lie? If the answer is, “I don’t know,” shouldn’t you know before you support a pardon? | Utefans.Net
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If he wasn’t covering up a crime, why did he lie? If the answer is, “I don’t know,” shouldn’t you know before you support a pardon?

Posted By: Ute Bear
Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 01:38 pm

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pangloss icon NEW: A couple questions
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:08 am [ID# 1943523] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: I would pardon Flynn and Commute the sentence of Manafort.
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:22 am [ID# 1943526] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Why? The actions of both of these people could have easily derailed this presidency. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:26 am [ID# 1943527] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: I guess I don't see that. Flynn lied and was immediately fired . He was also not a sophisticated party, ambushed and his crime was pretty much without a victim. A process crime.
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:32 am [ID# 1943530] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: I think this is correct re Flynn
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:56 am [ID# 1943538] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Yes. He lied. Didn't have to either, he didn't do anything illegal. I choose to look at his service to our country and the fact that politics stole his legacy as enough of a sentence. (short)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:58 am [ID# 1943540] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: He was the National Security Advisor. He surreptitiously spoke with Russians and denied it. It's kind of a big deal. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:02 pm [ID# 1943541] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: It's not illegal. It's not a big deal (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:56 pm [ID# 1943550] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Man, you really don't get it, do you. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:05 pm [ID# 1943554] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: Simply put, he lied to the FBI. That is a federal felony. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:09 pm [ID# 1943557] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: So much for that whole "law and order" thing. (short)
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:28 pm [ID# 1943560] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: I was clearly talking about his contact with the Russian (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:28 pm [ID# 1943561] [reply]
o NEW: If he wasn’t covering up a crime, why did he lie? If the answer is, “I don’t know,” shouldn’t you know before you support a pardon?
Ute Bear - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:38 pm [ID# 1943566] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: If he were it would have been discovered in this little investigation that just concluded. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:41 pm [ID# 1943567] [reply]
o NEW: So why did he lie? (nm)
Ute Bear - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 03:27 pm [ID# 1943590] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Pretty much everybody around Trump lied to some extent, including Trump, when it came to Russia. Either they're all stupid criminals, or just stupid. (short)
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 05:33 pm [ID# 1943607] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: The FBI had Flynn on failure to register as a foreign agent of Turkey. They also had him and his son conspiracy to kidnap the Turkish cleric and deliver him to Turkish agents for $15M. I think his son's jeopardy pushed him to cop a plea.
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:50 pm [ID# 1943586] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I'm sure you feel the same way about Bill Clinton. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:23 pm [ID# 1943545] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Lol. I'm surprised you do! (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:56 pm [ID# 1943551] [reply]
Red Don icon NEW: Flynn was not "immediately" fired. (nm)
Red Don - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:49 pm [ID# 1943585] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Your reason for calling the investigation an illegal farce was the "fake" dossier. Since you failed to prove its inaccuracies, much less intentional falsifications, why should anything be done at this point?
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:30 am [ID# 1943529] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: You refuse to accept fact on this issue. You all wanted to investigate Russia collusion on a "hunch" but when faced with actual collusion with the UK - that's ok. HYPOCRISY (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:34 am [ID# 1943531] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: Stop spinning. Just stop.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:42 am [ID# 1943532] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Why not be interested if any foreign government was meddling in our campaign or as you put it INFLUENCING. Why the hypocrisy? It's clear as day...
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:56 am [ID# 1943537] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: When did I ever say I wasn't interested in investigating a foreign country meddling? I literally just said the opposite. (long)
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:05 pm [ID# 1943542] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: I'm far from lost and you can keep on losing your $#!+ and not caring, I was just pointing out that sometimes people aren't in the mood to interact with such hysteria.
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:53 pm [ID# 1943548] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: You are 100% lost.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:05 pm [ID# 1943555] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Lol. I can handle any swearing, temper tantrum, capital letters you can throw my way. You can even call me a bitch if you want.
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:32 pm [ID# 1943562] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: I'll try again: what proof have you provided?
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:42 pm [ID# 1943568] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: You didn't debunk the passport claim. Where did you prove he was in Prague? Are you kidding me? Because he had a stamp where he "could have" gone to Prague without passport stamping?
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:48 pm [ID# 1943569] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: Do you understand burden of proof? Of course not, what a dumb question.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:50 pm [ID# 1943572] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Wrong again! You can't just write a dossier on somebody and say prove me wrong or it's true. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:53 pm [ID# 1943573] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Uh, this is sort of how intelligence works.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:02 pm [ID# 1943578] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Uh, this was paid for by an opposing campaign. It's not an intelligence report. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:07 pm [ID# 1943580] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Sorta true, which only makes your crying about it worse.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:12 pm [ID# 1943581] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: You can't help yourself. My guess is you will do it again (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:16 pm [ID# 1943582] [reply]
UTE BC icon NEW: Let's do this. Prove to me that there are no false statements in the Dossier (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:54 pm [ID# 1943574] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: There it is.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:56 pm [ID# 1943575] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Nice surrender. Burden of proof is on you. Your beloved Dossier has not met any burden of proof. In fact, it lead to the exoneration of the president. But you stick with that. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:59 pm [ID# 1943576] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Scratch that. Final statement: burden of proof is on the person making the claim, and if you claim that something is fabricated you better damn well come with the proof.
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:04 pm [ID# 1943579] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: I read a lot of it. The article you link was written a long time ago, before the inauguration. Lawfare, a respected blog shop, recently wrote a piece revisiting the dossier. I want to see how Mueller's report addresses it.
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:52 pm [ID# 1943547] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Uh oh. This won't sit well with BC. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:02 pm [ID# 1943553] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: It seems that he's basing his entire position on an OpEd article, and Cohen's passport (which was shown to be unreliable as evidence).
480ute - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:21 pm [ID# 1943559] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: Producing an intercepted tape recording of newly appointed National Security Advisor Flynn surreptitiously talking to Russians would constitute reasonable suspicion to appoint the special council.
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:47 am [ID# 1943533] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: If you liked that one - wait for the next one! (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:57 am [ID# 1943539] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: There you go again. Screaming "WITCH HUNT" on one investigation, but not on another. You keep falling into the same trap you accuse others of falling into. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:28 pm [ID# 1943546] [reply]
UTE BC icon NEW: Make no mistake about it. I am going to enjoy the revenge of Trump. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:55 pm [ID# 1943549] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: And you will, of course, accept it if there are no findings. But, but, but.....Benghazi......but, but, but muh e-mails...... (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:06 pm [ID# 1943556] [reply]
UTE BC icon NEW: Boy you liberals can't stop talking about Hillary. It's like you can't get over an election or something. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 01:37 pm [ID# 1943565] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Whoosh! (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:48 pm [ID# 1943584] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: As a taxpayer, here's an interesting twist. The Mueller investigation cost about $25 million. Manafort forfeited $42 million. So the whole exercise made $17 million. Trump should take credit for that. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 11:29 am [ID# 1943528] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: As a taxpayer, here's an interesting twist. The Mueller investigation cost about $25 million. Manafort forfeited $42 million. So the whole exercise made $17 million. Trump should take credit for that.
Charlie - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 02:38 pm [ID# 1943583] [reply]
o NEW: It also financially ruined several innocent people. But who cares about that, right? (nm)
javadave - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 03:28 pm [ID# 1943591] [reply]
tarheelio icon NEW: No pardons, prosecute those found to have intentionally committed a fraud against the US. You can't prosecute the Steele Dossier crew for fraud AND pardon Manafort & Flynn. (nm)
tarheelio - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 12:09 pm [ID# 1943544] [reply]
o NEW: RE: A couple questions
Charlie - -- Monday 25 March 2019, at 03:07 pm [ID# 1943587] [reply]
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