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I'm amazed by how triggered some of you are because people are willing to pay to get their kids into universities.

Posted By: MinnesotaUte
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 09:52 am

I posted this recipe early yesterday, but it was either buried, disregarded, or ignored because there was no response.
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Step 1) Take something that shouldn't be illegal, in this case paying to get your kids into school of your choice. Which incidentally is not illegal, but it it takes buying a library rather than just donating a couple of extra 100k. So instead you give the couple 100k to a person who can sell you something that shouldn't be illegal, aka a criminal.

Step 2) Take a bloated bureaucracy in a highly subsidized institution full of perverse incentives and solutions in search of problems.

Step 3) Take a federal agency sticking it's nose into something they know will make a big splash while spending a ton of tax payer dollars.

Step 4) Take the head criminal, offer him a nice plea deal in order to turn him so that they can sweep up all the big stars that make the big splash.

Step 5) Layer on a mainstream press desperate for relevance and eager to exploit the natural base emotion of class envy.

Presto... It's what everyone is talking about, but it will be long forgotten in another month. And guess what, if doesn't matter one smidge in the grand scheme. So 50 or so upper middle class kids didn't get a spot in an elite school because some higher upper middle class kid paid some seedy individuals to secure that spot. All the while the very thing they are buying isn't nearly worth the price even the legitimate people are paying, illegal payments aside. College in 21st century is a JOKE.
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Now I see folks are crabbing even about the legal donations that buy access. I absolutely can't believe that anyone would be against the admission of a donors kid, let alone a major donor that contributes whole buildings. I'd be the first one to say that there are probably a lot more altruistic causes to which you can donate your wealth. Nevertheless an admission slot in return for hundreds of thousands up to millions of dollars of donations to an institution seems like a pretty smart trade for the college and the other students. And far better than pushing that would be donation into the pockets of criminal brokers and corrupt staff/officials.

The real conclusion here seems to me to be that we are against anyone being rich, not that we are against what they do with their money. Because the assumption that all college admissions should be 'fair' firstly never existed, but secondly really went out the window as soon as we started applying preferences for various groups.

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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I'm amazed by how triggered some of you are because people are willing to pay to get their kids into universities.
MinnesotaUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 09:52 am [ID# 1942166] [reply]
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o NEW: I'm mad that people still believe we live in a meritocracy. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 10:11 am [ID# 1942170] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: I'm mad that people still believe we live in a meritocracy.
pbUTE - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 10:51 am [ID# 1942178] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Exactly!!! Well said. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 10:12 am [ID# 1942171] [reply]
UtahFanSir icon NEW: The real conclusion for me is that we are NOT against anyone being rich, we are against the unethical crap the wealthy sometimes do with their money.
UtahFanSir - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 10:38 am [ID# 1942174] [reply]
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GUBA icon NEW: Yup! Plus blowhards gonna blow hard. (nm)
GUBA - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 10:42 am [ID# 1942176] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: It is frank, maybe fair, and fairly polite. I guess one of the differences between you and me is that I tend to look at why something happens, rather than jumping to a value judgement against the perpetrator.
MinnesotaUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 02:20 pm [ID# 1942208] [reply]
o NEW: ^^^ So intellectually and morally bankrupt he is outraged that people would expect bribery not to take place in highly competitive aspects of life in America.
Duhwayne - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 10:48 am [ID# 1942177] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Since we are making non-sequitur blanket statements I'll also add that you can distract the Democratic Party with a laser pointer. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 11:07 am [ID# 1942180] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Squirrel! (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 11:11 am [ID# 1942183] [reply]
UTE BC icon NEW: What needs to be realized in my opinion is: THE IVY's AREN'T ALL THAT
UTE BC - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 12:34 pm [ID# 1942192] [reply]
o NEW: Agreed with this, to a point. The value is in recruting pipelines effectively closed to many others. Doesn't mean there isn't talent in Utah schools. First year my law school admitted kids from Utah schools, half made law review.
Duhwayne - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 02:51 pm [ID# 1942214] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I think it's kind of funny that Legacy kids are viewed different than donor kids, for starters, or are we mad about them too? (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 02:22 pm [ID# 1942209] [reply]
Maji Man icon NEW: It sucks that the deck is now firmly stacked against the white middle class kid.
Maji Man - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 11:11 am [ID# 1942182] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: I'll bite
pangloss - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 11:32 am [ID# 1942184] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: I'll bite
Charlie - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 12:30 pm [ID# 1942190] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: I was a faculty kid. The only benefit I got was an A parking pass. I realize that was huge and probably worth more than tuition back then -- which was $160 / quarter, full time 10 hrs or more. (nm)
pangloss - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 01:17 pm [ID# 1942195] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I can work with that...
MinnesotaUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 02:34 pm [ID# 1942211] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I would also add that I think I am probably a bigger fan of rule of law than even you are, and because of that, my perspective is different in this way:
MinnesotaUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 02:58 pm [ID# 1942217] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: We won't be expecting you to teach an ethics class any time soon. (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 12:03 pm [ID# 1942187] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: Ouch, that was mean. (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 02:34 pm [ID# 1942212] [reply]
o NEW: FFSake nobody here is against people being rich. They are against said rich people using their money to #%!@ over others. Aside from that it said rich person kid is too stupid to pass the admissions test on his her own should they even be in
FlyfishingUte - -- Thursday 14 March 2019, at 12:54 pm [ID# 1942194] [reply]
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