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Interesting interview. I'm sharing in spite of a predictable response from many here, because I think some others may enjoy. And because pro-tolerance and open-mindedness.

Posted By: Zeous
Date: Monday, February 11, 2019 at 09:56 pm

Politics seemed the "safer" category, even though it's mostly about journalism.



Is TLDW the equivalent for video? Anyway, some things I found interesting:

* Supposedly Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn of "The Gulag Archipelago" fame claimed in a Harvard address that the media has more power than all three branches of the government combined. Not sure if this claim is properly attributed or not, but an interesting assertion regardless, because...

* Politics are downstream of an informed population and most people get their information from the media. This assertion rings true by itself, regardless of Solzhenitsyn's supposed claim above.

* Andrew Breitbart taught him that politics are downstream of an informed population, who was his "mentor". And he claims Breitbart's mentors were Arianna Huffington and Matt Drudge. Not that this matters much, but interesting. (Yes, I know, another triggering red flag for many here who find it easier to trust authorities than to do their own thinking)

* Believes video recordings are more transparent and a higher standard than anonymous sources referenced by many stories, because subjects speak for themselves and there's no evidence offered at all that an anonymous source even exists much less says what they supposedly said. This is true.

* Thinks most mainstream media isn't quality (or investigative) journalism anymore because it is mostly opinion and very little raw information, so his strategy is to share raw information

* Believes deceiving a subject is standard practice in journalism (i.e. what Project Veritas does undercover or how NYT writers get sources to trust them to get quotes/info), but the truth must be told to the audience. Does he doctor videos though...

* Believes raw information to the public is better than watered-down opinion, labeled "responsible journalism", which implies the public are children who can't handle raw information

* Says one of their big targets currently is Silicon Valley

* Recruiting of people willing to go undercover is interesting, no paraphrasing, just watch if interested

* Quoted Saul Alinsky about pushing a negative so hard it breaks through its counter side... not familiar with that concept, but interesting that a "right-winger" would study Alinsky. Plus it sounds like an interesting concept for further research.

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Zeous icon NEW: Interesting interview. I'm sharing in spite of a predictable response from many here, because I think some others may enjoy. And because pro-tolerance and open-mindedness.
Zeous - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 09:56 pm [ID# 1939297] [reply]
o NEW: TLDW *and* TLDR (nm)
ExquisUte - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 10:13 pm [ID# 1939298] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: Touche (nm)
Zeous - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 10:28 pm [ID# 1939301] [reply]
o NEW: Really interesting interview...
UtahFan from Germany - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 01:37 am [ID# 1939304] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: You should probably be aware by now that everybody involved with politics is a horrible human being. All of them on both sides. We all know and understand this and please don’t for one second believe “your side” is any better
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 08:10 am [ID# 1939313] [reply]
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o NEW: *hides the naplam* (short)
ironman1315 - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 09:28 am [ID# 1939318] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: "Anyone that would run for President isn't fit to hold the office" Don't remember who said it, but its so true, and more powerful the office, the more true this observation.
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 09:54 am [ID# 1939321] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: I'm not sure that everybody necessarily disagrees with you, but rather some may feel you're just pissing in the wind.
480ute - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 10:04 am [ID# 1939324] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I'm asking for a country that looks exactly like we actually follow our constitution that limits the federal government to certain limited and enumerated powers. (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 10:10 am [ID# 1939327] [reply]
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480ute icon NEW: Ah, got it. I misunderstood. My bad. (nm)
480ute - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 11:17 am [ID# 1939335] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: And you are right probably that I am pissing in the wind because the vested interests in DC will never let that happen, they will keep us split, ignorant, sell us answers that are easy to consume, but completely unrealistic,
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 10:21 am [ID# 1939328] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: And just to reinforce, the debt hit 22 Trillion Dollars today. (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 03:06 pm [ID# 1939345] [reply]
o NEW: RE: You should probably be aware by now that everybody involved with politics is a horrible human being. All of them on both sides. We all know and understand this and please don’t for one second believe “your side” is any better
Charlie - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 11:10 am [ID# 1939333] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I am not really pro or con to Term Limits because I've heard all sides on this, and at this point I think there is reasons enough to think that they might help and they might hurt.
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 01:22 pm [ID# 1939340] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: Also, still playing devil's advocate, not sure what you do for a living or where you are in your career, but I have 25 years in industry and I don't think it would work the way you think it might.
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 01:41 pm [ID# 1939341] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: I don't think term limits matter with a beuracracy as huge as it is that has power to create and enforce its own rules (nm)
Zeous - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 05:09 pm [ID# 1939353] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Sorry, I won't give 44 minutes to listen to O'Keefe. He is worse than Michael Moore. He creates video under false pretenses, then edits out portions to portray false narratives. He is dishonest and should be shunned by all. (nm)
pangloss - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 10:30 am [ID# 1939329] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: Agree to disagree. This is his side of the story, but no skin off my back if you don't care to hear him out. I think he makes a valid point that what he does is more honest, transparent, and difficult to pervert the truth to the audience than
Zeous - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 11:15 am [ID# 1939334] [reply]
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Red Don icon NEW: James O'Keefe, my kind of credible source.
Red Don - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 12:45 pm [ID# 1939339] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: O'Keefe and his accomplice didn't wear the pimp & hooker costumes when they scammed ACORN. They cut in costumed scenes with rearranged out-of-context clips to create misleading and dishonest video. He's a fraud. (nm)
pangloss - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 03:30 pm [ID# 1939348] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: I don't know - I went back and watched some of those and it seemed like it didn't really matter if they were wearing the costumes or not, unless they doctored the audio of the questions being asked and how the answers came out (long)
Zeous - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 07:02 pm [ID# 1939357] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Good post. I use the term 'fraud' loosely, not in the legal sense. My loose definition is, the deliberate misrepresentation of fact. Combine that with entrapment, O'keefe irritates me to no end. (nm)
pangloss - -- Wednesday 13 February 2019, at 10:36 am [ID# 1939384] [reply]
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