Roughly, yes. 3.2% Alcohol By Weight is roughly 4.0% Alcohol By Volume. Most distilleries measure by volume and the default is 4.2%. So Utah's "near beer" is basically .2% less alcohol than an identical bottle sold in 47 other states. | Utefans.Net
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Roughly, yes. 3.2% Alcohol By Weight is roughly 4.0% Alcohol By Volume. Most distilleries measure by volume and the default is 4.2%. So Utah's "near beer" is basically .2% less alcohol than an identical bottle sold in 47 other states.

Posted By: UTAuley
Date: Monday, February 11, 2019 at 04:47 pm

Kansas & Minnesota are the only other states that still have rules on the books, effectively. Missouri has one where it states "non-intoxicating beers" can be sold only to adults, but since intoxicating beers, i.e. everything else, can also be sold only to adults, so not a lot of adults are buying the near beers in Missouri.

Oklahoma's law change which kind of jump-started all of this is that previously, everything over 3.2% had to be sold in a liquor store and could not be sold refrigerated (68 Degrees maximum). They got rid of that last year, went into effect January 1 of this year. So now full 4.2% ABV beers can be sold in grocery stores (and served chilled) in OK. As my other post mentions, OK was more than 50% of the 3.2% consumption, so with more than half the consumers moving on, it's no longer cost effective for any of the brewers to make 3.2% by weight.

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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: The LDS church just came out against SB132 which would raise the alcohol content of beer sold in grocery and convenient stores. So, in my estimation, that effectively kills it. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:04 pm [ID# 1939252] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: Oh well, maybe the next century. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:09 pm [ID# 1939253] [reply]
jhill icon NEW: Corect me if I am wrong but isn't 3-2 (Utah beer) 4.0% compared to the 4.2 % sane states drink?
jhill - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:14 pm [ID# 1939254] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Supposedly it's 6.0% vs 4.0% by volume (I think, it's either volume or weight). They said they don't support a 50% increase in alcohol content. So, the 6.0 vs 4.0 number seems right, based on their statement. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:39 pm [ID# 1939259] [reply]
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UTAuley icon NEW: Roughly, yes. 3.2% Alcohol By Weight is roughly 4.0% Alcohol By Volume. Most distilleries measure by volume and the default is 4.2%. So Utah's "near beer" is basically .2% less alcohol than an identical bottle sold in 47 other states.
UTAuley - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:47 pm [ID# 1939264] [reply]
o NEW: RE: The LDS church just came out against SB132 which would raise the alcohol content of beer sold in grocery and convenient stores. So, in my estimation, that effectively kills it.
crazyforu - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:17 pm [ID# 1939256] [reply]
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o NEW: clearly you and your ilk aren't thinking about the children! (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 07:25 pm [ID# 1939286] [reply]
96GradAlum icon NEW: Why do we even have a legislature. They don't represent the people. This is stupid! Let's just cut out the middle man and ask "The Church" what they want! (nm)
96GradAlum - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:23 pm [ID# 1939257] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: cough-cough also-applies-to-DC cough-cough
Zeous - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 05:57 pm [ID# 1939273] [reply]
UTAuley icon NEW: Not much they can do about it, really. This is an attempt to get in front of the beer industry who has stated they'll no longer make 3.2% ABW beer, after Oklahoma changed their laws.
UTAuley - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:37 pm [ID# 1939258] [reply]
concerned icon NEW: Its a gold mine for Squatters, Unita, Moab, and other local breweries who will still make 3.2 beer and not have any competition in grocery stores and c-stores. (nm)
concerned - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:40 pm [ID# 1939260] [reply]
o NEW: they've all said there's no way they can replace what will be lost. they don't have the capacity to replace that much beer. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 07:22 pm [ID# 1939284] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: "or the legislature passes a sensible law for once." Pigs would be flying. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 04:42 pm [ID# 1939262] [reply]
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HoopUte icon NEW: How these teetotalers consider themselves stakeholders is one of the biggest hypocracies in the US (nm)
HoopUte - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 05:11 pm [ID# 1939267] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: We need to recall Amb. Huntsman from Moscow and have him say 3.2 beer will cost us the Olympics selection. It will, by the way. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 05:26 pm [ID# 1939270] [reply]
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Red Don icon NEW: Well then, it's a good thing that no one in a state legislature would listen to what a church has to say. (nm)
Red Don - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 06:15 pm [ID# 1939275] [reply]
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o NEW: that will change when someone educates them about the lost tax revenue that will go to wyoming and nevada when
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 07:07 pm [ID# 1939281] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Will people drive to Wyoming over driving to a local liquor store to get bear?
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 08:17 pm [ID# 1939290] [reply]
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o NEW: i know people that do it now, they think they are saving on the mark up, getting stronger beer, buying it cheaper, some buy smokes and they are cheaper,
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 08:37 pm [ID# 1939292] [reply]
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BulgieUte icon NEW: Pretty sure they don't fear are even slightly worry about conforming to ballot initiatives. (nm)
BulgieUte - -- Tuesday 12 February 2019, at 04:19 pm [ID# 1939351] [reply]
o NEW: Sorry to be so blunt but #%!@ THE MORMON CHURCH
AbsolUTE UTE - -- Monday 11 February 2019, at 09:03 pm [ID# 1939294] [reply]
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