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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Posted By: UtahFan from Germany
Date: Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 07:59 am

...then let's call it a spade. And pretend that everybody who calls it a duck is close-minded.

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RedondoUte icon NEW: Wall < Tunnels (short)
RedondoUte - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 06:36 pm [ID# 1937626] [reply]
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o NEW: Are you sitting behind walls right now? Curious, because I bet someone could get in if they wanted. But you have them all the same. (nm)
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 07:49 pm [ID# 1937629] [reply]
execUTEioner icon NEW: The wall was never going to happen. You were conned. (short)
execUTEioner - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:00 pm [ID# 1937632] [reply]
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o NEW: Classic politics getting in the way of doing what’s best for the American people IMO. We spend more on illegals than the $5B for the wall. We don’t want to protect our country nor keep it safe. (nm)
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:05 pm [ID# 1937634] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Citation please on how much we spend on illegals. Be sure to subtract how much they pay in income taxes and sales taxes and FICA, etc. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:12 pm [ID# 1937638] [reply]
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o NEW: I’d love to have an open discussion on this... let’s start here:
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:17 pm [ID# 1937643] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Perused that. They make a lot of assumptions. They have numbers for government outlays, and then make an assumption as to what percentage goes to illegal aliens, sometimes as high as 25%. Seems to me a little overestimated.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:28 pm [ID# 1937647] [reply]
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o NEW: Mind made up on what topic? That protecting our country is important?
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:42 pm [ID# 1937652] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I am suggesting that the costs are not as high as your link supposes.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:45 pm [ID# 1937653] [reply]
o NEW: What amount do you suppose? Heritage group estimates $54 B. Are you ok with $20 B? If so, why not consider extra border measures as low as $5.7B?
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:53 pm [ID# 1937655] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Sigh......for the last time......I'm not against border security. Most people are not. But the majority are against $5.7 billion for a wall. It is better spent on other methods. And those costs won't go away because you build a wall.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 09:05 pm [ID# 1937657] [reply]
o NEW: These methods that you speak of, if they are better, why isn’t you party pushing for them?
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 09:08 pm [ID# 1937659] [reply]
UtahFanSir icon NEW: Just read the last paragraph.
UtahFanSir - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 10:01 pm [ID# 1937663] [reply]
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SkinyUte icon NEW: Um...they are. The Dems were proposing literally, exactly those other measures. And Trump is still saying no and demanding the wall.
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 10:30 pm [ID# 1937665] [reply]
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o NEW: Continued spending is not increased spending. (nm)
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 11:18 pm [ID# 1937668] [reply]
SkinyUte icon NEW: They didn’t even spend close to what they were appropriated previously. Why do they need an increase? (nm)
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 11:35 pm [ID# 1937669] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Also from your link there's this: (I lied, I didn't stop)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:34 pm [ID# 1937649] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Also from Wikipedia: "The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies FAIR as a hate group with close ties to white supremacist groups."
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:39 pm [ID# 1937651] [reply]
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o NEW: "The Southern Poverty Law Center” links to the heritage group study who estimates $54B.
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:55 pm [ID# 1937656] [reply]
Zeous icon NEW: People are so well trained. Calling something a hate group or linked to white supremacy is as useful as the LDS church labeling things anti-Mormon. Look away, nothing to see here, close the mind. (nm)
Zeous - -- Saturday 26 January 2019, at 01:34 am [ID# 1937670] [reply]
o NEW: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
UtahFan from Germany - -- Saturday 26 January 2019, at 07:59 am [ID# 1937676] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: Yep. Joseph Smith married a 14 year old and another man's wife because god said so. But that is anti-mormon and not faith promoting, so just demonize and the flock won't investigate or be burdened with contradictory evidence.
Zeous - -- Saturday 26 January 2019, at 09:50 am [ID# 1937685] [reply]
o NEW: what's funny is you still brlieve trump gives a rat ass about the wall.."security"walls do not work against a determined adversary. (short)
FlyfishingUte - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:23 pm [ID# 1937645] [reply]
o NEW: Rs the 5B was only a down payment not the total cost (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:24 pm [ID# 1937646] [reply]
o NEW: Everyone who worked for trump is going to be surrounded by walls fairly soon.
UteBrave - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:49 pm [ID# 1937654] [reply]
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Red Don icon NEW: If this wall of yours is such a National "crisis", why didn't Trump and his Republican Congress do something about it the last two years?
Red Don - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 09:06 pm [ID# 1937658] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: You say stupid silly things. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:03 pm [ID# 1937633] [reply]
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o NEW: You don’t have the balls to engage in anything of worth. (nm)
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:06 pm [ID# 1937636] [reply]
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SubstiUTE icon NEW: RE: You don’t have the balls to engage in anything of worth. (short)
SubstiUTE - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:12 pm [ID# 1937639] [reply]
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UTE-MAN icon NEW: That there is funny.
UTE-MAN - -- Saturday 26 January 2019, at 03:12 am [ID# 1937673] [reply]
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SforkUte icon NEW: Zing! You got me. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:14 pm [ID# 1937640] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I have a wall around my property. It keeps the dog from getting away. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:06 pm [ID# 1937635] [reply]
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o NEW: You live in a tent with no doors? Nice! (nm)
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:07 pm [ID# 1937637] [reply]
SforkUte icon NEW: ^ best post of the day. (nm)
SforkUte - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:15 pm [ID# 1937642] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: thanks (nm)
Hammer2 - -- Friday 25 January 2019, at 08:18 pm [ID# 1937644] [reply]
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