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Posted By: UtahFan from Germany
Date: Monday, January 21, 2019 at 07:06 am

...my point was that government shutdowns are unheard of in Germany, France, the UK, Canada, Australia and probably any other Western democracy. That's because they are not possible based on the rules of the political systems of these countries.

If there is a disagreement between the executive branch and the legislative branch about specific parts of future government spending, at the very least all spending that is unaffected by the disagreement should continue as before. It's as simple as that and the way it works in other countries. It is simply insane that TSA workers are not paid because there is disagreement about a border wall.

In theory, it should be possible to fix this and to abolish the possibility of a government shutdown in the US by amending budget and spending regulations. In practice, it will most probably never happen.

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o NEW: So Pelosi rejects Trump's offer in a pre-written response before Trump even gives his offer. Trump moves the announcement back an hour, Pelosi releases her rejection memo at 4pm, Trump speech starts at 4:05pm.
Hammer2 - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 12:39 am [ID# 1937101] [reply]
o NEW: The article said she rejected offer before he gave speech, not before he gave his offer.
Ute Bear - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 04:54 am [ID# 1937106] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Perhaps an expert on government shutdowns can weigh in:
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 05:11 am [ID# 1937107] [reply]
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o NEW: He knows more about government shutdowns than anybody (nm)
UtahFan from Germany - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 05:38 am [ID# 1937108] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: Nobody has done it more... (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 06:55 am [ID# 1937113] [reply]
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o NEW: Nobody has done it longer. Record setter. Promise made promise kept (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 10:11 am [ID# 1937124] [reply]
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o NEW: seriously? Are you even paying attention? The democrats made him the exact same offer that he initially agreed to BEFORE they took over the house. It was the republican plan and he was fine with it allegedly
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 06:07 am [ID# 1937109] [reply]
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o NEW: Did you hear about that epic government shutdown between Angela Merkel and the Bundestag, and how it ended? (short)
UtahFan from Germany - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 06:18 am [ID# 1937110] [reply]
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o NEW: Angela Merkel is intelligent. At the very least she knowe how to negotiate better than the toddler in the Oval Office (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 06:46 am [ID# 1937112] [reply]
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o NEW: No doubt about that, but...
UtahFan from Germany - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 07:06 am [ID# 1937114] [reply]
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o NEW: RE: seriously? Are you even paying attention? The democrats made him the exact same offer that he initially agreed to BEFORE they took over the house. It was the republican plan and he was fine with it allegedly
Charlie - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 08:54 am [ID# 1937119] [reply]
480ute icon NEW: Disagree. Many people are directly relying on DACA, and not some band aid solution that will put their future in limbo.
480ute - -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 09:04 am [ID# 1937121] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I wonder why the Ann Coulter faction isn't judging Trump by his failure to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Hypocritical of them to give him a pass on that part of his campaign promise. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 09:12 am [ID# 1937122] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: It was rejected (in part) because what he was offering in return was something that he had already taken away (DACA and TPS).
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 07:18 am [ID# 1937115] [reply]
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Red Don icon NEW: He can't negotiate, it's "give me everything I want or I walk out." In addition, he's a proven liar who's word means absolutely nothing.
Red Don - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 03:30 pm [ID# 1937182] [reply]
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SkinyUte icon NEW: I’m going to light your house on fire, then withhold the fire extinguisher until you give me $5.7B. Cool?
SkinyUte - Top 25 Poster -- Monday 21 January 2019, at 11:14 am [ID# 1937134] [reply]
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