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I spent most of my career working with government agencies or prime contractors. The corps stood out.

Posted By: pangloss
Date: Friday, January 11, 2019 at 01:39 pm

I worked with the major prime contractors (Boeing, Lock-Mart, GD, etc) and the Army, Navy and Air Force. I also worked with the UK Ministry of Defense and BAE. There were similarities between all of them.

On two projects I worked a proposal and a program with the Army Corps of Engineers. They were different. The following will probably not make sense to most of you.

On one occasion we did a proposal to the COE to demilitarize obsolete nerve gas on Johnston Atoll. The COE's RFP was awful. Thankfully it was a 45 day sprint so the pain didn't last long. We assembled a team of experienced proposal folks and a team-mate contractor to prepare the books. Reflecting the RFP, our response was awful. Thankfully we lost.

During the fact finding phase, the COE asked where our forward pricing rates originated. At that time our Administrative Contracting Officer (gov.t official with the warrant/authority to commit the Govt.) and the company had agreement on our forward pricing rates - an unusual circumstance that meant every Govt. contracting officer could officially rely on those rates (a big deal that saved them a lot of work). The Army COE CO refused to recognize that agreement and refused to rely on our ACO or our local DCAA (Defence Contract Audit Agency) for any support or working agreements. During one meeting in Huntsville the uniformed COE officer asked why he should trust the words of our ACO and resident DCAA. That's like a president asking why he should trust the FBI.

I know this doesn't mean much to most folks, but it was Twilight Zone-ish. It was stupid.

My prediction if the COE does it:
It will not be a technically simple, big dumb wall. The COE will not be able to select a wall design, or a contractor, or sign a final contract within a year. The administrative cost will be about 30% to 100% higher than needed. The wall's route will be undefined when the contract is signed. The contractor will use change orders to increase the cost by 50% to 200% and emerge as the only party that's happy.

I'm not positive, but I think this yacht is owned by a COE contractor.

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Maji Man icon NEW: Every year the DoD gets hundreds of billions of dollars to protect our country...
Maji Man - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 09:30 am [ID# 1936249] [reply]
UtahFanSir icon NEW: Because they did not have the master of all things walls as their commander in chief? (nm)
UtahFanSir - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 09:41 am [ID# 1936252] [reply]
Puget Ute icon NEW: A funny side note to this whole thing is the ACOE is responsible for waterways in the nation, and has to approve any construction projects involving them. T
Puget Ute - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 10:03 am [ID# 1936255] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: I'm sure the new EPA boss will say that the environmental studies aren't needed. And the base will believe it...... (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 10:06 am [ID# 1936256] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: I spent most of my career working with government agencies or prime contractors. The corps stood out.
pangloss - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 01:39 pm [ID# 1936270] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: And to be clear, the ACO and DCAA were never our friends in these matters. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 02:54 pm [ID# 1936275] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Yes, thank you, exactly. (nm)
pangloss - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 03:15 pm [ID# 1936277] [reply]
Riot West icon NEW: Should've put a cover sheet on your TPS report.
Riot West - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 03:38 pm [ID# 1936279] [reply]
96GradAlum icon NEW: Trump asked for $56B additional dollars for the military and Congress just gave them $80B late last year. If the wall was so critical why didn't Drumpf negotiate the additional dollars to Homeland Security for the wall? (nm)
96GradAlum - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 11:22 am [ID# 1936262] [reply]
o NEW: then he wouldn't be able to have this dog and pony show. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 11:26 am [ID# 1936263] [reply]
Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Yep. He knew that Mexico wouldn't pay for the wall, so he had to wait for a time when he could blame someone besides himself for that not happening.
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 12:06 pm [ID# 1936265] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Haven't you heard? The wall will pay for itself. I have a way for that to happen.
pangloss - -- Friday 11 January 2019, at 01:59 pm [ID# 1936272] [reply]
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