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Wastes taxpayer money for one. Unfairly targets people who may rightfully be fleeing adverse circumstances and political persecution.

Posted By: Rocker Ute
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 10:27 pm

The truth is, the wall will probably be effective at keeping good people out but not detecting criminals. Drug cartels have the resources to overcome any of the barriers being proposed.

See how that is immoral and ineffective? It's got the trifecta:

1. Inefficient and waste of taxpayer money
2. Targets the wrong people in general
3. Wont work anyway as criminal elements will overcome it and most enter into the country in other ways besides trying to cross the border undetected.

We won't get into the environmental impact or harming access to needs farming resources like the Rio Grand River.

There are some extreme liberals who argue that there shouldn't be any border enforcement, but every president dating back years has recognized the need to control our borders. There are more effective and cheaper ways to do it thank building a wall.

Oh! One other way the wall has become immoral! By using public servants as pawns in a political game. Donald Trump is the worst president in the history of our country.

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UTE BC icon NEW: Is the wall immoral or does it not work? Cause if it doesn’t work it’s not immoral.
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:16 pm [ID# 1935660] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: You lost all credibility when you said this: "as long as they get their illegal votes to pursue their ruling class take over of our country." I won't be involved in any more discussion in this thread. (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:25 pm [ID# 1935664] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: Sooo bummed (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:27 pm [ID# 1935665] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: It actually CAN be immoral and not work. Plenty of instances in life just like that... attempted robbery, defecit spending during economic booms, lying to the American people... (nm)
Rocker Ute - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:35 pm [ID# 1935669] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: If the wall doesn’t slow people from coming across the border. What is immoral about it?
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:37 pm [ID# 1935670] [reply]
Rocker Ute icon NEW: Wastes taxpayer money for one. Unfairly targets people who may rightfully be fleeing adverse circumstances and political persecution.
Rocker Ute - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:27 pm [ID# 1935732] [reply]
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o NEW: Why do all the border agents want it? (nm)
Hammer - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:47 pm [ID# 1935674] [reply]
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o NEW: link to "all the border agents want it?" just because trump got onstage with a couple of sycophants doesn't mean ALL the agents want it (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:49 pm [ID# 1935677] [reply]
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execUTEioner icon NEW: They don’t (nm)
execUTEioner - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:27 pm [ID# 1935691] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: True all don’t but...
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:34 pm [ID# 1935695] [reply]
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execUTEioner icon NEW: your own link makes a distinction between the trump wall folly and specific areas that could use barriers.
execUTEioner - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:44 pm [ID# 1935700] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: He’ Is prsently asking for that amount of wall. I agree we don’t need that much (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:53 pm [ID# 1935707] [reply]
execUTEioner icon NEW: Where has trump presented the scaled back plans? Why did the trump admin only spend 6% of funds allocated to border security in the 17/18 budget? (nm)
execUTEioner - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:00 pm [ID# 1935711] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: the amount requested is for a wall in specific places not the entire border. That would cost much more than $5 Billion and IMO not needed. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:04 pm [ID# 1935712] [reply]
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execUTEioner icon NEW: Ill ask again: where has the trump admin specified that they are now only seeking a scaled back version of the border wall only in strategic sections? (nm)
execUTEioner - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:07 pm [ID# 1935713] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: In the present budget request. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:12 pm [ID# 1935715] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: Article from the same source...
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:51 pm [ID# 1935705] [reply]
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Newbomb Turk icon NEW: And I broke my own rule, dammit...... (nm)
Newbomb Turk - Top 25 Poster -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:55 pm [ID# 1935709] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: I promise not to call you out! Lol (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:57 pm [ID# 1935710] [reply]
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o NEW: Maybe we should stop calling it a wall and start calling it a gate so those opposed will understand that we will open the gate, but close it when there is potential harm or abuse. (nm)
Hammer - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:48 pm [ID# 1935676] [reply]
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TheRealU icon NEW: ^^^ has never heard of ladders (nm)
TheRealU - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:10 pm [ID# 1935687] [reply]
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GUBA icon NEW: Or planes, or boats... (nm)
GUBA - -- Monday 7 January 2019, at 09:55 am [ID# 1935753] [reply]
GUBA icon NEW: Or tunnels (nm)
GUBA - -- Monday 7 January 2019, at 09:55 am [ID# 1935754] [reply]
Big B icon NEW: RE: Is the wall immoral or does it not work? Cause if it doesn’t work it’s not immoral. (short)
Big B - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:52 pm [ID# 1935679] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: ^^^^ Utefans.net poster of the year (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:57 pm [ID# 1935681] [reply]
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o NEW: ute bc is a troll. I have it on ignore. Now Hammer, while we disagree we can at least have a civil dialogue w/o the name calling etc. Ute bc, well conversing with it is like pissing into the wind, not recommended. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:01 pm [ID# 1935683] [reply]
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UTE BC icon NEW: FFU and I go way back. He and I are going to have a beer soon. (nm)
UTE BC - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:03 pm [ID# 1935684] [reply]
SforkUte icon NEW: That should be fun! (nm)
SforkUte - -- Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:55 pm [ID# 1935735] [reply]
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