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In the end, this is a free-market decision. There is a publisher who thinks that by doing this he can make a buck, and he's doing it.

Posted By: Utesbyfive
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 at 02:16 pm

PTA groups across the country are apparently clamoring for it, and so he's filling the market void.

What it all boils down to is that Art is a commodity like anything else. Copyright exists solely to protect commercial interests, its use to protect the integrity of artistic works, is merely a byproduct.

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o NEW: In response to the n-word being taken out of Huck Finn I'm going around & crossing off crackers from Saltines boxes. (short)
ScoopsMangum - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 12:47 pm [ID# 1140353] [reply]
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o NEW: I do enjoy when someone takes a serious issue and acts like an idiot about it. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 12:52 pm [ID# 1140354] [reply]
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o NEW: Was the "idiot" comment aimed at me, or the people that want to censor? (nm)
ScoopsMangum - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 12:53 pm [ID# 1140355] [reply]
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o NEW: Really?
Xanthis - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:41 pm [ID# 1140387] [reply]
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o NEW: Yeah someone likens cracker to nigger and I'm the idiot. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:44 pm [ID# 1140393] [reply]
o NEW: You called him an idiot because of the word usage in a book and how it is going to be changed. A book written in the time period the word was used. He was being as extreme as those who want it changed. Seems a little ridiculous don't you think? (nm)
Xanthis - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:48 pm [ID# 1140398] [reply]
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o NEW: No that isn't it, he essentially trivialized an important issue. That is what is ridiculous. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:50 pm [ID# 1140403] [reply]
o NEW: Crimmy, I meant no disrespect at all about racial issues. I was simply making a joke. Didn't mean to create a firestorm. Let's all take a deep breath. (nm)
ScoopsMangum - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:02 pm [ID# 1140413] [reply]
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Big Mac icon NEW: What? The liberal "free speech" policeman on the board is now advocating censorship?...
Big Mac - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 06:11 pm [ID# 1140509] [reply]
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o NEW: As offensive as that slang/racial slur is to remove it from Huck Finn clearly alters the author's original work and is unacceptable. The word was common for the time period of the author
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 12:59 pm [ID# 1140358] [reply]
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UtesBy7 icon NEW: So say we all... (nm)
UtesBy7 - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:23 pm [ID# 1140369] [reply]
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Rocker Ute icon NEW: As someone who has read Huck Finn a bunch of times, I'm not particular upset that someone would do this to the book, but I believe they have missed an important part
Rocker Ute - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:16 pm [ID# 1140365] [reply]
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o NEW: So let me get this straight. I am a racist is I protest changing Mark Twains work and I am also a racist if I suggest rap stars change their lyrics. (nm)
Flyer - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:23 pm [ID# 1140367] [reply]
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Utesbyfive icon NEW: Huck Finn is a work in the public domain. Anybody can republish it, with any of the words changed. It's not censorship as long as the government isn't keeping you from reading the original. This is a NON-STORY. (nm)
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:26 pm [ID# 1140371] [reply]
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o NEW: I don't think anybody complained about censorship. The issue is about what is right. Which version will our kids be fed? (nm)
Flyer - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:31 pm [ID# 1140376] [reply]
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o NEW: it may not be "censorship" in the strictest legal definition however it is clearly political "correctness" at it's best. I see NO defensible reason to alter such a classic simply because that word is not politically correct or someone doesn't like
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:32 pm [ID# 1140377] [reply]
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o NEW: Yes political correctness from that crazy liberal university, Auburn. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:35 pm [ID# 1140380] [reply]
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o NEW: And the point of altering a Twain classic would be? are we sanitizing everything we find objectionable? if it's NOT political correctness than what would you call it crimmy? (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:38 pm [ID# 1140382] [reply]
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o NEW: Actually there was a hell of a reason to do it...
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:42 pm [ID# 1140388] [reply]
o NEW: So to make sure somethinng like Huck Finn gets into the classroom we sanitize it to fit political corretcness standards? makes perfect sense (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:45 pm [ID# 1140395] [reply]
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o NEW: There are a whole slew of reasons why people might want that word changed...
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:04 pm [ID# 1140416] [reply]
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o NEW: Well Hell crimmy that explains it! Certainly those slew of reasons are sufficient to alter the author's original work (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:07 pm [ID# 1140421] [reply]
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UtahUte72 icon NEW: But what a missed opportunity to explain the word and it's common usage back then.
UtahUte72 - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:54 pm [ID# 1140407] [reply]
o NEW: Precisely. Oh no that word is uncomfortable for my family I'm not going to let my kids read it because of one word.
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:00 pm [ID# 1140410] [reply]
o NEW: You get that this is just one published version of Huck Finn right...
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:11 pm [ID# 1140426] [reply]
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o NEW: Yes Crimmy I get that. What YOU don't seem to be getting is where does this modifying to fit peoples' sensibilities STOP (besides the copyright) I mean it seriously WTF does it stop? (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:14 pm [ID# 1140431] [reply]
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o NEW: Yea, someone might take "white and delightful" out of the Book of Mormon next. (nm)
MadUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 03:40 pm [ID# 1140468] [reply]
o NEW: We have a problem...
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:08 pm [ID# 1140423] [reply]
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o NEW: And that justifies altering Twain's original work (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:12 pm [ID# 1140428] [reply]
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Utesbyfive icon NEW: It doesn't really matter what you think. Do you understand what PUBLIC DOMAIN is? There is no copyright on Huck Finn.
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:38 pm [ID# 1140385] [reply]
o NEW: Yes I understand what public domain is. And you are correct it is legal but it is morally and ethically reprehensible. (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:42 pm [ID# 1140389] [reply]
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o NEW: Its amazing what you think is just fine in this country but will go to the matresses over the word nigger. (nm)
Comrade Crimson - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:43 pm [ID# 1140391] [reply]
o NEW: Wow you completely missed the point. It's NOT the word genius, it's the ACT of sanitizing an American Classic because a few parents find one word objectionable. Where does it Stop? (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:50 pm [ID# 1140402] [reply]
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Utesbyfive icon NEW: It stops when they try to do it to something that's copyrighted. (nm)
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:00 pm [ID# 1140412] [reply]
o NEW: Sadly even a copyright is insufficient portection these days. With the technology available today by the time the courts get involved it's too late, the damage is done.
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:11 pm [ID# 1140425] [reply]
Utesbyfive icon NEW: All it says to me is that he's got a family to feed, and understands copyright law.
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:36 pm [ID# 1140449] [reply]
Utesbyfive icon NEW: Ok, you feel reprehensed. It's gonna be an empty feeling, as there's nothing to be done about it. (nm)
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:44 pm [ID# 1140392] [reply]
o NEW: ah yes the old there's nothing to be done about it argument. So to paraphrase Coach Knight if something is inevitable we may as well sit back and enjoy it (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:52 pm [ID# 1140405] [reply]
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Utesbyfive icon NEW: Ok, what are you going to do about it? You haven't got a legal leg to stand on, and the courts look the other way at arguments like "It's ethically wrong!" (nm)
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:59 pm [ID# 1140409] [reply]
o NEW: Not a damn thing. Like you said nothing to be done about it. I do think it's a damn shame that our Country has to resort to revisionist history to feel better about itself. Instead of using the opportunity to educate their kids about why the term
FlyfishingUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:05 pm [ID# 1140417] [reply]
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o NEW: Totally agree. Let's discuss these issues. We need more talk, not less. (nm)
ScoopsMangum - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:08 pm [ID# 1140422] [reply]
Utesbyfive icon NEW: In the end, this is a free-market decision. There is a publisher who thinks that by doing this he can make a buck, and he's doing it.
Utesbyfive - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:16 pm [ID# 1140434] [reply]
o NEW: Ever read the original lyrics to "My old Kentucky home?" State song, btw. (Oh, and they changed them 'round about 20 years ago)
wannabeaute - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 01:54 pm [ID# 1140406] [reply]
o NEW: Little did I know that my attempt at humor about an issue I find absurd would cause such a stir. Isn't it great that we live in a time and place that we can have these conversations though? Seriously, we need more talk, not less. (nm)
ScoopsMangum - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:05 pm [ID# 1140418] [reply]
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o NEW: Scoop....how do I explain this. Well....when a man loves a woman.....How about you just ask your teacher at school? (nm)
Xanthis - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:15 pm [ID# 1140432] [reply]
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o NEW: I said MORE talk, not THE talk. LOL (nm)
ScoopsMangum - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:39 pm [ID# 1140451] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: That's almost as dumb as thinking the Rodin statue "The Kiss" would cause prurient thoughts by college age students.
pangloss - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:17 pm [ID# 1140436] [reply]
o NEW: RE: In response to the n-word being taken out of Huck Finn I'm going around & crossing off crackers from Saltines boxes.
DanielLaRussoUte - -- Wednesday 5 January 2011, at 02:40 pm [ID# 1140453] [reply]
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