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Rocker Ute icon
Here's the thing that is apparent from these indictments, above all Russia is interested in pitting Americans against each other to undermine democracy.
Rocker Ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:16 pm
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Divide and Conquer. (nm)
jhill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:24 pm
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They did. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:26 pm
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Absolutely. It's been the KGB strategy to poke at the country's deepest nerves since Stalin. Whose party way less important than that Trump's style is to inflame these too. He is a natural. I expect more culture wars this fall than policy debates. (nm)
Duhwayne Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:31 pm
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480ute icon
Yes. Lets separate Trump from this for the moment, and let Mueller do his thing. In the meantime, can we all now come together to take a stand against this attack?
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:33 pm
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It's not just politicians, it's also big media repeating and subtly contributing to the divisiveness constantly.
Zeous Saturday 17 February 2018, at 07:30 pm
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480ute icon
Dude, you're killing me.
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 07:41 pm
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Tell us more about your wife. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Saturday 17 February 2018, at 07:43 pm
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Zeous icon
It's up to you to decide if it's relevant or not. I think it is. More information is useful in trying to sort out the game board and which moves to make. (nm)
Zeous Saturday 17 February 2018, at 10:09 pm
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It's what they do.
ocgreg Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:03 pm
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480ute icon
Nothing to see here? I'm glad we're finally agreeing that Russia waged an attack, but are you suggesting we just ignore it? (nm)
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:09 pm
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You make a really good point...
Ma'ake Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:16 pm
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Russia tried to coordinate with China to tank the dollar during the financial crisis. They said no. This time, China benefits from this. Dropping TPP advanced Chinese interests ten years. (nm)
Duhwayne Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:25 pm
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excerpt from the indictment
pangloss Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:40 pm
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If the collusion is unwitting, does that mean NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION. I don't think so. A presidential campaign has a duty to vet the financial and in-kind help it gets. Stupidity is no defense. (nm)
pangloss Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:56 pm
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Just a FYI. Go out to that garage and start that damn lawnmower if you didn't winterize it. In the spring you will be glad you did it when your the only one on your block that isn't cussing up a storm trying to start theirs. (nm)
jhill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:01 pm
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480ute icon
Winter started? (nm)
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:09 pm
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Newbomb Turk icon
Winter starts tomorrow here in Utah. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:15 pm
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jhill icon
Our 2 weeks of winter ended a month ago. Now I get to sweat like a whore in church for the next 11 months. (nm)
jhill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:22 pm
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Newbomb Turk icon
I like whores. Church, not so much. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:25 pm
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480ute icon
Those church whores though... (nm)
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:37 pm
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So thats how they got Trump to go to church (nm)
execUTEioner Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:40 pm
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Red Don icon
That, and he gets to read about the two Corinthians. (nm)
Red Don Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:56 pm
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^Post of the Day^ (nm)
Newbomb Turk Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:56 pm
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Get a Honda.
chrisrenrut Saturday 17 February 2018, at 10:31 pm
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Interesting presentation
Zeous Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:40 pm
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Ute Bear Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:33 pm
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How hard working and open-minded you must be. I applaud your magnificent attention span, it sounds yuuuge.
Zeous Saturday 17 February 2018, at 06:16 pm
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I just read the full Mueller indictment and all I can say is holy $#!+. Every American should read it.
EUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:45 pm
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I read the indictment and no where does it say that Trump colluded with the Russians to create electoral havoc. It also said that these tactics did not affect the elections. In fact, it all started before Trump even announced for President. (nm)
sacute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:47 pm
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Correct, this indictment has a specific focus.. it is one distinct piece of the investigation. This is standard practice.
EUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:52 pm
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Next on CNN "Sources tell us Trump bought a time machine for the Russians so they could help him win before he even said he was running."
jhill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:55 pm
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480ute icon
Where did it say that Russian led rallies accounted for ALL anti-Trump rallies? (nm)
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:06 pm
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The anti-trump rally happened AFTER the election
execUTEioner Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:13 pm
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Trump trademarked "make america great again" in 2012
execUTEioner Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:02 pm
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480ute icon
A bit defensive? Where did Eute say anything about Trump (other than mentioning that they led pro and anti-Trump rallies)?
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:04 pm
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Sure we should be. Think about the time, effort and money we spent on this. We played right in their hands. (nm)
jhill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:30 pm
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480ute icon
So, you're upset about the time and money spent on investigating this, but not the act itself? (short)
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:41 pm
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Never meant that at all. Didn't even try to insinuate that. Just saying we spent tons of resources investigating this that could of been used for other things.
jhill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:55 pm
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480ute icon
So, you're upset that we spent time and money on this.
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:11 pm
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Red Don icon
And Ed Grimley spent tons of money on seven Ben Ghazi investigations that lead to a big nothing while the Russians were doing their thing. (short)
Red Don Saturday 17 February 2018, at 06:31 pm
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Sound familiar?
Duhwayne Saturday 17 February 2018, at 01:59 pm
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Amen (nm)
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:28 pm
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dystopiamembrane Saturday 17 February 2018, at 11:05 am
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Deinstitutionalization has forever changed America....follow the money (looooong)
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 10:49 am
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I see you're not big into doing research before posting. I could pick apart your whole post but I'll just pick on two areas.
JumpmasterUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:13 pm
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The Thrill icon
I'm only speaking from personal experience.
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:34 pm
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You watch to many movies. I was talking about the lower enlisted at time of entrance not Officers or NCO's. As for cherry picking I didn't have time to scrub the whole post so I chose to pick the two that where the most blantantly wrong in my eyes. (short)
JumpmasterUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:45 pm
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The Thrill icon
Didn't open links. On my phone at Brighton. but i will (nm)
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:54 pm
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The Thrill icon
I clicked the links. I never said dumb or disabled, I said mentally ill
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:54 pm
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As with anything there are those who slip thru the cracks. As for quotas not making yours means an ass chewing. Getting caught enlisting an unqualified applicant is usually career ending and sometimes worse. (nm)
JumpmasterUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:14 pm
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The Thrill icon
What's passing? I just took a practice ASVAB test and got 85%. That's without doing any of the math in over 25 years. (nm)
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 07:00 pm
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The Thrill icon
I stand corrected. Only 1 in 4 active military is diagnosed with a mental illness. It doesn't get much higher until they become a veteran.
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:44 pm
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480ute icon
This report cites "potential recruits" when accounting for the 30% who can't pass the academic assessment.
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 04:08 pm
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You're right. You don't have to be the sharpest pencil in the box.
JumpmasterUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 05:25 pm
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I agree with most of this, and never meant to infer that you'd have to be a moron to enlist, or that only idiots go into the military.
480ute Saturday 17 February 2018, at 06:07 pm
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pangloss icon
Other consequences
pangloss Saturday 17 February 2018, at 02:47 pm
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The Thrill icon
It's a vocal miniscule minority of mentally ill who commit the atrocities.
The Thrill Saturday 17 February 2018, at 03:01 pm
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It's Game Day! Go Utes! Beat Washington State
FlyfishingUte Saturday 17 February 2018, at 07:20 am
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