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"Apparently, Equality, in this instance, is displaying the reality that those who 'believe' get to discriminate against whomever they choose..." So, we want to exclude and discriminate but don't hold that against us. It's time to tax the church.
UtesMuss1 Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:29 am
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Absolutely fascinating. (nm)
SforkUte Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:45 am
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What does the tax status have to do with this bill?
dutchman1234 Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:51 am
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Because they're permanently parked in our capitol building influencing everything that goes on.
Red Don Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 12:35 pm
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OK, but please articulate what you want taxed?
dutchman1234 Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 02:08 pm
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And donations shouldn't be tax deductible. You can't claim a donation to a lobbying firm. Same thing. (nm)
Red Don Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 06:46 pm
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Why shouldn't revenues be subject to taxation? Joel Osteen's church takes in over $90 million a year, and only around $1 million goes to missionary outreach. Who knows how much of that is actual humanitarian work, and how much goes to conversion .
480ute Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 07:06 pm
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All churches need to be taxed ... case closed. (nm)
UTEthanasia Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 09:04 am
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And synagogues and mosques and temples and anything else that collects revenue as a religion (nm)
Zeous Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 05:29 pm
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I know you'll lose sleep over this, but don't you worry. We're not letting Muslims off the hook.
480ute Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 07:11 pm
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Inclusion is fair, exclusion is not. Criticise me for that if you like, no sweat off my back.
Zeous Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 07:41 pm
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I'm just poking fun at your weird sort of persecution complex, as if saying "churches" is somehow exclusionary. (nm)
480ute Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 07:47 pm
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I'm just tired of the programming of identity politics going on, which there is no shortage of and calls for special treatment for some groups.
Zeous Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:12 pm
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I'm almost always using "church" in debate to refer to any religious institution, so I assume that's the case here. I understand how it can be muddy, since it is technically a biblical term, so I apologize for any confusion.
480ute Wednesday 15 May 2019, at 08:03 am
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Meanwhile... China introduced 2 days off per week in 1995. Worker's paradise. (nm)
Zeous Monday 13 May 2019, at 11:10 pm
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Is this where we post fun trivia gems about China? Okay. Did you know that fortune cookies were not created in China, but rather a noodle making company in San Francisco invented them? (nm)
ExquisUte Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 06:18 am
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Your trivia is technically not about China. (nm)
Rocker Ute Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 07:21 am
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Maybe he was talking about fine tableware. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:02 am
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Why don’t you just go live there since you hate America so much?
The Thrill Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 06:48 am
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That's sad, if that is what you see. And it is what you choose to see.
Zeous Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 09:36 am
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All of your posts imply a hatred of America. (nm)
The Thrill Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 04:11 pm
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Popular Chinese food dishes in the US of A aren’t what Chinese eat in China. (nm)
SforkUte Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 07:07 am
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In China they don't call it Chinese food. They just call it food. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:01 am
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Contrary to popular belief the classic American Hamberder came from Hamberd Germany. (nm)
SforkUte Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:58 am
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Don't steal my joke, you Hawaiian shirt-wearing weirdo. (nm)
Sprinkles the Bear Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 09:18 am
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Says the guy who wears knickers and fedoras. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 04:33 pm
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How awful. Let's tariff the $#!+ out of them! (nm)
UteBrave Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:33 am
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Kragthorpe has a failed attempt at ranking Utah's Football games next season:
Rocker Ute Monday 13 May 2019, at 03:47 pm
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Agree. The conference games are infinitely more important than the non-conference games.
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 03:59 pm
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Honestly, unless we are talking about playoff aspirations...
Sprinkles the Bear Monday 13 May 2019, at 04:07 pm
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My thought? Kragthorpe is an idiot. (nm)
SforkUte Monday 13 May 2019, at 04:20 pm
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I’m so proud of you for having a thought! (nm)
ExquisUte Monday 13 May 2019, at 05:49 pm
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It didn’t take too long either. (nm)
SforkUte Monday 13 May 2019, at 05:59 pm
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lol, me thinks you are correct, sir. (nm)
Carolina Cycling Ute Monday 13 May 2019, at 07:34 pm
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RE: Kragthorpe has a failed attempt at ranking Utah's Football games next season:
Charlie Monday 13 May 2019, at 05:35 pm
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In order to eat he cannot fail to appease TDS faithful.
Maji Man Monday 13 May 2019, at 05:37 pm
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Kragthorpe can't turn his "zoob" off. To save his soul he cannot do it.
'ZonaUTE Monday 13 May 2019, at 06:26 pm
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Kragthorpe's list sucks for sure but......
BulgieUte Monday 13 May 2019, at 07:17 pm
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If there is one thing I want, it is to be taken seriously. By you. My deepest apologies to Northern Illinois.
Rocker Ute Monday 13 May 2019, at 09:22 pm
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That get up was for senior day, I really don't look that way. I'm normally very serious. (nm)
BulgieUte Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 08:49 pm
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RE: Kragthorpe has a failed attempt at ranking Utah's Football games next season:
UTEopia Monday 13 May 2019, at 07:28 pm
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IMHO they are neither intriguing or important. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 09:52 pm
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I agree. The most important part of the BYU game? It will be over before September...
Ma'ake Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 06:56 am
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My thoughts are that the content of the SLTrib does not merit the cost they charge. (nm)
paqogomez Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 09:59 am
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In honor of Doris Day, may she rest in peace, one of the world's best quips.
pangloss Monday 13 May 2019, at 01:01 pm
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Great quote. Oscar Levant. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 01:18 pm
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yup, fixed (nm)
pangloss Monday 13 May 2019, at 01:51 pm
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Yay. Trickle down does work. At least on tariffs. Even Kudlow admits that American consumers will be affected. Trump says "some people just don't get it". Sadly, he is the "some people" in this case.
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 07:51 am
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The Dow is down over 2% already today on the news of China retaliating with new tariffs on US goods (short)
HoopUte Monday 13 May 2019, at 08:14 am
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Yep. Trump was right. I really am tired of all this winning.
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 08:15 am
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RE: Yay. Trickle down does work. At least on tariffs. Even Kudlow admits that American consumers will be affected. Trump says "some people just don't get it". Sadly, he is the "some people" in this case.
Charlie Monday 13 May 2019, at 08:30 am
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Will trump's base, the Walmart shoppers, ever connect the dots and figure out why they are paying more when they shop?
UteBrave Monday 13 May 2019, at 08:35 am
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There were tons of dots to connect before the 2016 election and they didn't connect those so I have no faith whatsoever that will ever do so. (nm)
96GradAlum Monday 13 May 2019, at 08:54 am
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Most are not smart enough to figure it out. The few who have realized it are just willfully ignorant. (nm)
UteBrave Monday 13 May 2019, at 09:53 am
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And that connect the dots puzzle was just Trump giving them a GIANT middle finger. (nm)
utahpunk Tuesday 14 May 2019, at 03:19 pm
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They'll blame it on Obama because that's what Fox News will tell them. (nm)
SkinyUte Monday 13 May 2019, at 11:40 am
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What a shameful reminder of of the world we live in. Its now huge news when a presidential advisor reluctantly and grudgingly "admits" to the truth of something that everyone already knows is true. (nm)
Ute Bear Monday 13 May 2019, at 09:06 am
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RE: Yay. Trickle down does work. At least on tariffs. Even Kudlow admits that American consumers will be affected. Trump says "some people just don't get it". Sadly, he is the "some people" in this case.
Charlie Monday 13 May 2019, at 12:32 pm
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Just changing a few words from your first paragraph.....
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 01:27 pm
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RE: Just changing a few words from your first paragraph.....
Charlie Monday 13 May 2019, at 01:59 pm
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Let's see.....trade deficits with China:
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 02:20 pm
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RE: Let's see.....trade deficits with China:
Charlie Monday 13 May 2019, at 02:59 pm
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I get what you said about trade deficits alone not being meaningful I happen to agree. My point was is that trade deficits are important to Trump for some reason (ignorance probably) and he is using tariffs to try to reduce deficits.
Newbomb Turk Monday 13 May 2019, at 03:54 pm
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