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UTE BC icon
Is the wall immoral or does it not work? Cause if it doesn’t work it’s not immoral.
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:16 pm
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You lost all credibility when you said this: "as long as they get their illegal votes to pursue their ruling class take over of our country." I won't be involved in any more discussion in this thread. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:25 pm
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UTE BC icon
Sooo bummed (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:27 pm
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Rocker Ute icon
It actually CAN be immoral and not work. Plenty of instances in life just like that... attempted robbery, defecit spending during economic booms, lying to the American people... (nm)
Rocker Ute Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:35 pm
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UTE BC icon
If the wall doesn’t slow people from coming across the border. What is immoral about it?
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:37 pm
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Rocker Ute icon
Wastes taxpayer money for one. Unfairly targets people who may rightfully be fleeing adverse circumstances and political persecution.
Rocker Ute Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:27 pm
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Why do all the border agents want it? (nm)
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:47 pm
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link to "all the border agents want it?" just because trump got onstage with a couple of sycophants doesn't mean ALL the agents want it (nm)
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:49 pm
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They don’t (nm)
execUTEioner Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:27 pm
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UTE BC icon
True all don’t but...
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:34 pm
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execUTEioner icon
your own link makes a distinction between the trump wall folly and specific areas that could use barriers.
execUTEioner Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:44 pm
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UTE BC icon
He’ Is prsently asking for that amount of wall. I agree we don’t need that much (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:53 pm
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Where has trump presented the scaled back plans? Why did the trump admin only spend 6% of funds allocated to border security in the 17/18 budget? (nm)
execUTEioner Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:00 pm
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UTE BC icon
the amount requested is for a wall in specific places not the entire border. That would cost much more than $5 Billion and IMO not needed. (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:04 pm
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Ill ask again: where has the trump admin specified that they are now only seeking a scaled back version of the border wall only in strategic sections? (nm)
execUTEioner Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:07 pm
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UTE BC icon
In the present budget request. (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 09:12 pm
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Newbomb Turk icon
Article from the same source...
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:51 pm
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And I broke my own rule, dammit...... (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:55 pm
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UTE BC icon
I promise not to call you out! Lol (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:57 pm
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Maybe we should stop calling it a wall and start calling it a gate so those opposed will understand that we will open the gate, but close it when there is potential harm or abuse. (nm)
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:48 pm
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TheRealU icon
^^^ has never heard of ladders (nm)
TheRealU Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:10 pm
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GUBA icon
Or planes, or boats... (nm)
GUBA Monday 7 January 2019, at 09:55 am
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GUBA icon
Or tunnels (nm)
GUBA Monday 7 January 2019, at 09:55 am
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RE: Is the wall immoral or does it not work? Cause if it doesn’t work it’s not immoral. (short)
Big B Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:52 pm
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UTE BC icon
^^^^ Utefans.net poster of the year (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:57 pm
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ute bc is a troll. I have it on ignore. Now Hammer, while we disagree we can at least have a civil dialogue w/o the name calling etc. Ute bc, well conversing with it is like pissing into the wind, not recommended. (nm)
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:01 pm
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UTE BC icon
FFU and I go way back. He and I are going to have a beer soon. (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:03 pm
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That should be fun! (nm)
SforkUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:55 pm
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I have a feeling that congresswoman Oscadio Cortez is going to shake up the establishment in what I hope is a good way
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:23 pm
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My fear is that she’ll shake it up in the way that Venezuela was shook up by socialism. (nm)
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:06 pm
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she mentioned Sweden, Norway and somewhere else as her inspiration for healthcare, education etc. NO mention of Venezuela, so what is your fear based on?
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:18 pm
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"Trump was touting a tax plan for the middle class, suddenly crickets on that plan, it's disappeared? "
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:29 pm
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UTE BC icon
Why doesn’t Pelosi pass one? You may have to explain to her what it is. (nm)
UTE BC Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:32 pm
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i know, that's why I chose that as an example of his lying nature
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:33 pm
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Newbomb Turk icon
The blackjack analogy is a good one. He would hit his 15 when the dealer has a 6 showing. He would draw a facecard and the dealer would get a 5 and the whole table gets screwed. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:38 pm
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How did we get onto Trump. I said nothing of Trump. (nm)
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:45 pm
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because her tax plan is the opposite of his and the GOP, ie make people pay their fair share close the loop holes etc (nm)
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:51 pm
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RE: I have a feeling that congresswoman Oscadio Cortez is going to shake up the establishment in what I hope is a good way
Charlie Sunday 6 January 2019, at 08:37 pm
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dear democrats, the first rule of conducting a comprehensive thorough investigation is NOT to tell the subject what you want to see in the media
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 04:40 pm
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Watergate era saying, "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up" (nm)
pangloss Sunday 6 January 2019, at 05:58 pm
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I suspect that is exactly it. (nm)
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:09 pm
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So, doing business in Russia is probable cause for a criminal investigation for 10+ years back?
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:28 pm
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The article says that they are investigating if there was money laundering, which is illegal. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:41 pm
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So there’s no evidence of potential money laundering other than Donald Trump doing business with Russians? (nm)
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:46 pm
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Newbomb Turk icon
I don't know. Perhaps the investigation will reveal that (or not). But the point here is they are investigating possible money laundering. I get it, you think it's fake news.
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:53 pm
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If there are facts that support it. yes. Currently, there is no mentioned of any facts or reason to believe that there was money laundering, other than the free exchange of business.
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:03 pm
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Newbomb Turk icon
I certainly don't know, but perhaps if he released his tax returns none of this would be necessary. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:06 pm
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Whataboutism: One of the reasons Chaffetz resigned is because he was counting on investigating Clinton for years. Once she lost, he had no reason to be there (passing laws to make the country a better place be damned). (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:09 pm
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The WAY that Trump is doing business with Russians was enough to seat a grand jury and appoint a special prosecutor. AND the grand jury for Muellers probe was just given an extension
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:05 pm
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I’m patiently waiting for any, any, any. I’m poised. (nm)
Hammer Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:12 pm
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there won't be a grand reveal ala trump. IF Mueller has a case he will lay it out patiently and methodically, every T crossed every I dotted
FlyfishingUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:21 pm
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So am I. My feeling (if obstruction,etc is found) is that the base will say it's fake, and the others will believe it. And Congress will do nothing based on the evidence. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 07:21 pm
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Wild Ute icon
After BYUs blowout loss tonight and Utah's close loss to UA (short)
Wild Ute Sunday 6 January 2019, at 12:33 am
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They scored more points than we did. Next question? (nm)
ExquisUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 04:07 am
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SforkUte icon
Both teams aren’t good. (nm)
SforkUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 06:56 am
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The Thrill icon
I wish we had a fallback blame game like Zoobs do. With every loss they blame the lack of talent on the honor code.
The Thrill Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:01 am
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PAC12 refs. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:10 am
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The Thrill icon
There it is. How could I forget? (nm)
The Thrill Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:30 am
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Trump (nm)
SforkUte Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:52 am
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The ghost of Jim Boylen...
UtahFan from Germany Sunday 6 January 2019, at 12:39 pm
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ASU seal clubbing Colorad9 right now. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Saturday 5 January 2019, at 05:27 pm
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So Penis Harmon and the BYuck fans were complaining about the refs in the UOP game
Gator Saturday 5 January 2019, at 03:14 pm
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SforkUte icon
No idea what you said. (nm)
SforkUte Saturday 5 January 2019, at 03:47 pm
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I didn't read your post, too long. (nm)
The Stadium Pooper Saturday 5 January 2019, at 04:12 pm
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Hell yeah! Whatever he said!!! (nm)
URun2 Saturday 5 January 2019, at 07:36 pm
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The Thrill icon
Huh? (nm)
The Thrill Sunday 6 January 2019, at 10:31 am
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Red Don icon
I know more tech than anybody. (nm)
Red Don Sunday 6 January 2019, at 12:12 pm
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The Thrill icon
If Allen catches the ball and makes a layup, 14 assists and Utah wins....nope (nm)
The Thrill Saturday 5 January 2019, at 03:09 pm
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pangloss icon
You're right, but it was not a great pass. (nm)
pangloss Saturday 5 January 2019, at 03:49 pm
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loyter icon
it hit him right in the #%!@ing hands!!! (nm)
loyter Sunday 6 January 2019, at 01:35 am
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