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The Thrill icon
I realized that segregation never left America, it's just disguised
The Thrill Friday 28 June 2019, at 08:39 am
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Best line of all time on UFN, said in all seriousness, "Did we learn nothing from Pretty Woman?" (nm)
Rocker Ute Friday 28 June 2019, at 08:54 am
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All I know is that I feel like I am more with my people when I shop anywhere but WalMart. (nm)
mokus Friday 28 June 2019, at 09:08 am
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UtahFanSir icon
Astute observation...
UtahFanSir Friday 28 June 2019, at 09:13 am
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I'll admit that I'm struggling with your idea that because social/income class elitism exists, it somehow means racism doesn't. I'd say both are VERY much alive and well in the US right now, and are often intertwined and serve to magnify the other. (nm)
SkinyUte Friday 28 June 2019, at 09:14 am
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tarheelio icon
Both exist, but elitism is growing as an issue. Many people react very differently to obviously poor Black folks than affluent people that are Black. . (nm)
tarheelio Friday 28 June 2019, at 09:29 am
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Name a place where they don't exist (nm)
Zeous Friday 28 June 2019, at 10:25 am
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Well, that makes it okay, I suppose..... (nm)
Newbomb Turk Friday 28 June 2019, at 10:35 am
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Zeous icon
You are so very very righteous. I congratulate you on your holiness. Name a place you hold to the same standard as the US. (nm)
Zeous Friday 28 June 2019, at 05:54 pm
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The Thrill icon
Sometimes questioning the system and the establishment helps us progress into a great society (nm)
The Thrill Friday 28 June 2019, at 12:10 pm
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I think racism is less pervasive that some would have you believe.
UtahUte72 Friday 28 June 2019, at 12:11 pm
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The Thrill icon
Oh yes it’s still very much exists and my point was economic segregation goes hand-in-hand with racial segregation. That’s part of the massive novel I mentioned (nm)
The Thrill Friday 28 June 2019, at 12:13 pm
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UtahUte72 icon
So explain the proliferation of white trailer trash in your model. (nm)
UtahUte72 Friday 28 June 2019, at 12:21 pm
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Yep.
Newbomb Turk Friday 28 June 2019, at 12:27 am
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The Thrill icon
The human styrofoam. (nm)
The Thrill Friday 28 June 2019, at 06:44 am
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Awful gerrymandering decision (long)
pangloss Thursday 27 June 2019, at 04:38 pm
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"If Garland were on the court rather than Gorsuch, it would have been 5-4 for truth, justice, and the American way, for democracy." Which is exactly what that prick McConnell had in mind.
Newbomb Turk Thursday 27 June 2019, at 04:52 pm
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Utahraptor icon
I'm afraid I will be dead by the time that happens. (short)
Utahraptor Thursday 27 June 2019, at 06:04 pm
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mokus icon
I promise urine if I ever find myself at his grave. (nm)
mokus Thursday 27 June 2019, at 10:14 pm
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I don't like the way maps are drawn but.....
BulgieUte Thursday 27 June 2019, at 08:08 pm
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pangloss icon
The 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments all deal with voting. The federal government has been integral to giving people equal voting rights.
pangloss Friday 28 June 2019, at 03:03 pm
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You are not required to submit to their decision. (nm)
Zeous Thursday 27 June 2019, at 09:17 pm
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I agree with your assessment 100%. And that is why Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were absolutely terrible choices. And I predicted as much (nm)
96GradAlum Friday 28 June 2019, at 08:13 am
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So, the majority invented the term "is inconsistent with"...
UtahFan from Germany Friday 28 June 2019, at 08:28 am
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The party in power always does things to keep themselves in power. These districts that Republicans drew in North Carolina replaced districts that were drawn to favor Democrats.
tarheelio Friday 28 June 2019, at 08:58 am
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Newbomb Turk icon
I don't know how Utah could draw their congressional district lines any more in favor of the GOP than it is right now.
Newbomb Turk Friday 28 June 2019, at 09:14 am
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tarheelio icon
They can take some of Salt Lake County away from Ben McAdams' district. (nm)
tarheelio Friday 28 June 2019, at 10:08 am
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Most of that is in the south of Salt Lake County. That's not exactly a Democratic bastion. The Repubs just run bad candidates like Mia Love. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Friday 28 June 2019, at 10:41 am
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Debate (long)
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 11:02 am
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If the election were held today, who would you vote for? (nm)
Newbomb Turk Thursday 27 June 2019, at 11:17 am
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Deez nuts. (nm)
ironman1315 Thursday 27 June 2019, at 11:29 am
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RE: If the election were held today, who would you vote for? (short)
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 12:47 pm
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So, you would vote for her over Trump? (nm)
Newbomb Turk Thursday 27 June 2019, at 12:56 pm
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RE: So, you would vote for her over Trump?
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 02:22 pm
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tarheelio icon
I will second that. I see her as the Trump killer in this field. (nm)
tarheelio Thursday 27 June 2019, at 01:20 pm
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RE: I will second that. I see her as the Trump killer in this field.
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 02:29 pm
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UtahFanSir icon
I am reserving judgement, in part because there are too many candidates and in the early days...
UtahFanSir Thursday 27 June 2019, at 03:27 pm
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Well said. I would add a couple more ....
Utahraptor Thursday 27 June 2019, at 06:29 pm
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Your first proposal would starve the MIC and hai corporate overlords (nm)
FlyfishingUte Thursday 27 June 2019, at 09:31 pm
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RE: Well said. I would add a couple more .... (long)
Charlie Friday 28 June 2019, at 11:20 am
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Didn't watch the debate so can't comment on that. But voting for Klobachar will be the same as voting for Obama or Hillary ... or Biden, Booker, or Harris. They're all bought and sold neoliberals that are going to be more of the same sh!t ...
96GradAlum Thursday 27 June 2019, at 11:57 am
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RE: Didn't watch the debate so can't comment on that. But voting for Klobachar will be the same as voting for Obama or Hillary ... or Biden, Booker, or Harris. They're all bought and sold neoliberals that are going to be more of the same sh!t ...
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 01:08 pm
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I think you're being exceptionally naive ... but that's JMHO (nm)
96GradAlum Thursday 27 June 2019, at 02:53 pm
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I agree with him, our country has issues, but the outrage and freaking out is a huge overreaction (nm)
311polo Thursday 27 June 2019, at 03:43 pm
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The Thrill icon
No Sanders or Biden? Why are they special? (nm)
The Thrill Thursday 27 June 2019, at 12:09 pm
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RE: Debate
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 12:37 pm
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RE: Debate
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 12:39 pm
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480ute icon
Did you actually read my post, because I don't think you actually read my post. (long)
480ute Thursday 27 June 2019, at 01:08 pm
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RE: Did you actually read my post, because I don't think you actually read my post. (long)
Charlie Thursday 27 June 2019, at 02:20 pm
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Reparations and student loan debt are two things that can convince me that one isn't fit for the Presidency... (nm)
311polo Thursday 27 June 2019, at 03:52 pm
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Not understanding how tariffs work and believing in trickle down are two things that can convince me that one isn't fit for the Presidency... (nm)
Newbomb Turk Thursday 27 June 2019, at 04:54 pm
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Very well put...
311polo Thursday 27 June 2019, at 03:49 pm
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SforkUte icon
We are f#####. Trump will win another term because the DNC can’t get their $hit together. (nm)
SforkUte Thursday 27 June 2019, at 04:19 pm
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480ute icon
Estamos tan jodidos. (nm)
480ute Thursday 27 June 2019, at 04:36 pm
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We were already #%!@ed. McConnell has ceded the legislative branch to the executive branch. He won't bring a bill to the Senate floor for a vote unless he knows Trump is for it. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Thursday 27 June 2019, at 05:14 pm
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The placement of the candidates is based on polls. Tonight, Sanders and Biden will be in the center. The Republicans did the same 4 years ago. (nm)
pangloss Thursday 27 June 2019, at 04:41 pm
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Partisan gerrymandering is a political question says the SCOTUS
ironman1315 Thursday 27 June 2019, at 08:56 am
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5-4, of course. Awful. Politicians are free to choose their voters. (nm)
pangloss Thursday 27 June 2019, at 09:51 am
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Yes and no. I cannot say that I surprised by this ruling. The courts are ill-equipped to handle cases like this.
ironman1315 Thursday 27 June 2019, at 10:10 am
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We're going to leave the issue of addressing gerrymandering up to those state leaders who are often voted into power due to...gerrymandering. Sounds great! Say, would you guys mind mind if I leave this fox in charge of your henhouse too? (nm)
SkinyUte Thursday 27 June 2019, at 01:02 pm
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But can a court actually create redistricting lines that make sense?
ironman1315 Thursday 27 June 2019, at 02:32 pm
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the Navajos in San Juan county would disagree with you while the white good ol boy club would be singing your praises.
FlyfishingUte Thursday 27 June 2019, at 09:29 pm
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The court doesn't have to draw the districts, they only have to rule that districts need to be redrawn. (nm)
Homer_Crimson Friday 28 June 2019, at 09:54 am
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