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North Korea agrees to complete denuclearize
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 03:15 am
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North Korea has a long history of acting in bad faith and reneging on promises
execUTEioner Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 04:48 am
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The full text of the agreement is out
execUTEioner Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 05:47 am
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Oh look, we just held up war games with the South. Verification? Inspection? Details on denuclearization?
Duhwayne Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 05:47 am
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A key detail - what does "complete denuclearization" mean?
Ma'ake Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 06:49 am
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Put a different way, "this is exactly the agreement John Bolton was afraid of"...
Ma'ake Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:12 am
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Bill Clinton had a no nukes treaty with DPRK, and John Bolton scrapped it during the Bush administration. If anything, they are reversing a 17 year-old mistake, but with a worse deal than the one we used to have.
Puget Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:40 am
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Absolutely and that was my point. Right now this is the LOI stage of a deal and as the details get hammered out we will see more. And then of course will NK follow through?
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:13 am
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I'll also say that Iran and NK denuclearization is critical because they are the two (potential) nuclear powers who are crazy enough to actually use them... particularly NK.
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:20 am
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I'm pretty damn liberal/left and I think Trump is probably the worst president in my lifetime (mostly due to environmental policy). But this is good a thing (so far). De-escalation is win for Trump, period! But it's hard for me to get a boner ...
96GradAlum Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:36 am
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(Rocker Ute falls out of his chair). I have never heard anyone on the left give an honest assessment of the Obama administration like that.
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:47 am
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Perhaps instead of assuming that those critical of the “deal” are motivated by politics, you could address the substance of the criticism (short)
Ute Bear Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 08:03 am
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The same issues that will potentially plague this deal also plagued the Iran deal, yet none on the left piped up about it at the time. They already are now. Conversely the guys on the right were critical of those issues with Iran and will likely...
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 08:23 am
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There is no deal. Just a vague promise to work towards a deal. That's the big difference.
Ute Bear Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 09:12 am
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Sometimes I wonder about your reading comprehension, really.
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 12:21 pm
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To be more precise, North Korea agrees to “work towards” complete denuclearization.
Ute Bear Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:53 am
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Those words... “work towards” ...puts me in a wait and see mode. Like you said, the Iran deal was verifiable,etc. We'll see what happens here. (nm)
Newbomb Turk Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 08:19 am
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It is how negotiations work...
Rocker Ute Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 09:02 am
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France taking America's place in defending western values in the South China Sea...
Ma'ake Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:59 pm
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That's so noble of the French. I mean it was the french that were using dead vietnamese plantation workers as fertilizer for there rubber trees in a country that didn't belong to them. (nm)
JumpmasterUte Monday 11 June 2018, at 10:41 pm
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Things change, right? I mean here in the USA we've come a long way since some of the terrible things the government sanctioned or ordered. (nm)
Riot West Monday 11 June 2018, at 10:46 pm
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trump abdicated out responsibility to be the leaders of the western world. Someone was going to step up. You didn't expect the world to wait another two years for Americans (short)
FlyfishingUte Monday 11 June 2018, at 10:52 pm
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Therefore what? Concede South China Sea to Chinese control? Cmon man.
Duhwayne Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 05:42 am
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You lost me at French Navy (nm)
Big Wave Monday 11 June 2018, at 11:17 pm
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The French Navy has more power than the Chinese Navy, at this point...
Ma'ake Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 06:16 am
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That's not what the article says.
Chad Sexington Monday 11 June 2018, at 11:22 pm
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And, not for nothing...
Chad Sexington Monday 11 June 2018, at 11:45 pm
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No question we've been performing freedom of navigation operations...
Ma'ake Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 06:33 am
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Look at it in the larger context.
Chad Sexington Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:00 am
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We see much of the same thing...
Ma'ake Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:32 am
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BAW-HA-HA-HA!
ocgreg Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:49 am
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Do some reading on "FONO" and the South China Sea, and get back with us. (nm)
Ma'ake Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:51 am
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The US Navy sent the USS Hopper (destroyer) in January 2018
ocgreg Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 09:39 am
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History in the making..... This very second. If you aren't rooting for trump right now please go #%!@ youself.
jhill Monday 11 June 2018, at 08:57 pm
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Go Trump! (nm)
WISCyUTE Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:00 pm
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The Trump administration is separating young refugee and migrant children from their parents at the border.
WISCyUTE Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:05 pm
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"purposefully traumatizing children" (short)
jhill Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:07 pm
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I don’t think that the fact that they are “purposefully traumatizing children” is a fact that is in dispute. (nm)
WISCyUTE Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:16 pm
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Aren't we robbing these American citizen kids from life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
Riot West Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:45 pm
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Your statement could just as easily be said like this: "illegal immigrants purposely are traumatizing and abandoning their children"
UTE BC Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 12:03 am
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I’m glad your Mom was able to legally immigrate from Nicaragua. I will be sure to pass along the info that families trying to escape violence from MS-13 in Central America (remember, those horrible “animals”?) should patiently wait for their tu
WISCyUTE Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 04:27 am
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So to be clear, you are for open borders. Come anytime anyone?
UTE BC Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 07:22 am
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A joke to anyone who is either a racist or completely amoral. So please yuck it up, while families are needlessly torn apart.
Ute Bear Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:52 pm
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History in the making.is right. Fist leader of the Free world to give the North Korean dictatorship legitimacy. The only thing historic about it will be how badly he gets played in this "deal" (nm)
FlyfishingUte Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:02 pm
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So we are replacing Canada, Mexico, England, Germany, and France for North Korea? Yay! (nm)
mk86god Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:10 pm
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To be honest, I am excited about this meeting. Just not about treating allies like $#!+. (nm)
mk86god Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:15 pm
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Why is trump so much more comfortable with despots and dictators than with our democratic allies? (nm)
execUTEioner Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 06:16 am
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Maybe Trump can get Kim Jong-Un to pay for the wall.
ocgreg Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:20 pm
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THAT would depend on what Trump gave away to get the money for the wall. (nm)
Utahraptor Monday 11 June 2018, at 10:51 pm
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Who DOESN'T want fully verified, complete de-nuclearization of the Korean Penisula?
Ma'ake Monday 11 June 2018, at 09:33 pm
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Exactly (nm)
FlyfishingUte Monday 11 June 2018, at 10:49 pm
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Way to legitimize a brutally oppressive regime and elevate the worst human rights oppressor on the world stage
execUTEioner Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 04:31 am
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#%!@ Trump and #%!@ You!!! (nm)
GUBA Tuesday 12 June 2018, at 08:08 am
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Speaking of tone deaf politicians, Bill Clinton needs to go away and never come back...
Rocker Ute Monday 11 June 2018, at 06:30 pm
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Yup. A perfect example of a guy who doesn't get it. (nm)
HoopUte Monday 11 June 2018, at 07:05 pm
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Oh he gets it..... (nm)
jhill Monday 11 June 2018, at 07:06 pm
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HA! (short)
Ute_fan_forever Monday 11 June 2018, at 07:46 pm
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