* Note: Current rankings are based on activity in the last calendar
Intriguing recruiting story and an example of why stars don't always tell you everything you need to know.
by TheBaron 2017-01-22 12:23:32
On the aggregate, stars matter in recruiting. In fact, as long as you are looking at the aggregate, star ratings matter a lot and are a very strong predictor of on-field success. When you look at individual players, however, some 4 star guys are ridiculously overrated and would be nothing special at a place like USU while some 2 star guys are studs that could play absolutely anywhere, but simply slipped through the cracks for whatever reason.
This year's example of the two star stud - BJ Thompson.
He slipped through the cracks because he is from a small town in Arkansas. He has been committed to Washington State for a while with no major programs after him. Recently, however, other teams caught wind of him, watched his film, and were blown away. In the past month, he has gotten offers from Utah, Baylor, and Texas. Florida State is after him very hard and scheduled an official visit for 1/24, but technically they haven't offered yet. Schools like FSU are often afraid of the optics of offering a lowly 2 star recruit and then not even being able to get him. If they think they have a good shot of landing him, the FSU offer will come on his official visit.
The good news for us is that Thompson is on a plane back to Arkansas from his official to Utah over the weekend. Rivals may say he's one of those two star recruits that people love to hate, but if Utah can beat out Texas and Florida State on a recruit that blue bloods are after this late in the game, that's a 4 star victory regardless of the Rivals rating.
This one is going to be a 20-30 point blowout loss. Butler's defensive effort is 500+% higher than Utah's. It really is something else to watch how much harder their players play and how much more than Utah they want to win.
by TheBaron 2016-11-28 19:46:44
Hopefully Collette and Barefield are able to turn things around when they join the team.
The PAC-12 should send Utah an early invitation to the Cactus Bowl with a note that tells Whitt "Your offense is an embarrassment to the conference. You've been pathetic on offense for the better part of a decade
by TheBaron 2016-11-27 01:25:18
and it's a malignant cancer for your program. Stop sucking and we'll consider inviting you to a real bowl."
Realizing in this moment that Cal is very unlikely to even make a bowl game...
by TheBaron 2016-11-12 21:42:01
WHY THE FUCKING FUCK does Whitt have to lose a complete head scratcher every. single. year? I know, I know - we were absurdly injured going into and during that game. Still, though. EVERY SINGLE YEAR Utah loses a game that makes zero sense in hindsight. Imagine where we would be, both title race-wise and bowl game-wise, if Moss simply followed Asiata like the play called for. Ugh!
Soft Jazz and a couple of other people have made some good points about intent. If you intend to offend, don't be surprised if someone is offended. I also think most will agree that people that set out with the goal of offending others are typically douchebags, regardless of the vehicle they use to piss people off.
Before I make my point about the tray and its creator's intent, I want to clarify that I don't agree with anything done by anybody with the intent to upset a particular group of people. Even if that group has been controlling, domineering, and in some cases persecutory of non-members in the state for many decades, I say keep it classy. I don't like the outward appearance of ex-Mormons manufacturing what is (apparently) an LDS-style shot tray, even though I am not personally offended by it. I think it's always best to just be nice; even to Mormons.
From what I understand, the two photos from the tailgate lot on Saturday that totally "prove" every last Utah fan - from infant to senior - is vile anti-Mormon scum, were taken by a couple of cougarbored members that went up to the tailgate lot to look for items or situations they deemed offensive or embarrassing, in order to take photos to post to twitter, etc. It appears their goal was to embarrass and shame Utah's fan base; I don't know for sure what they were thinking. I do know, however, that (from what I was told) a couple of fucktards with a persecution complex went searching high and low for something to get worked up over and the tray/beer bong were the worst they could find. Apparently, they are so proud of themselves that they bragged about their quest via cougarbored's private message system. Oops!
That brings me to my point about intent. While I don't personally agree with the whole sacrament tray thing and think it's lame, it's easy to argue that it was in poor taste, but hard to argue that it was done with the intent to offend. He made it for himself and his buddies to giggle at while tailgating; an activity that almost never involves the presence or proximity of active LDS.
If he expected the tray to never be seen by LDS people, it's hard to argue that he set out to offend LDS. On the flip side, if he made the tray and went out of his way to make sure LDS people saw it, it would be quite clear that offending LDS people was his goal. I'll bet that he never imagined a couple of pathetic zoobs would one day roam the tailgate lot incognito, looking for something to get offended over, find his silly tray, and post photos of him holding it all over social media. The whole episode is a farce that, in my opinion, exposes how pathetic zoobs are and the depths they'll go to in order to weakly justify their rabid persecution complex.
I don't see evidence that tray dude set out to offend people that he never intended to see his tray. I do, however, see evidence that the zoobs roaming the tailgate lot absolutely set out to offend fellow LDS, but at the expense of "yewt fans" instead of themselves. They have a ridiculous narrative of Utah's fan base being anti-LDS, supported by something like 5 fairly weak examples over many years out of hundreds of thousands of Utah fans. At best, they have demonstrated that as much as a couple of dozen (I know it has to be more, but we're talking about cases with supporting evidence) Utah fans - among many tens of thousand - are LDS insensitive. It's not a good thing, but BIG FUCKING DEAL. Some of our fans are undoubtedly racists or rapists. I'm sure we have a murderer or two, too. Large groups of people have every kind of bad apple in the basket.
I don't like it when people set out to offend. I'll even go so far as to say that I don't like it when people do offensive things because they think nobody from the target group will ever see or hear it. That said, I see a bunch of unjustifiably self-righteous morons on twitter/cougarbored working each other into a lather over something that was sought out, photographed, and posted by a couple of secret Sherlocks looking to piss LDS people off at the expense of what they see as their enemy. The whole thing is dumb, but 1000x moreso on the zoob side.
I am certain that no matter where I move to and who I interact with in life, I will NEVER encounter persecution complex anywhere in the same universe as severe as the zoob persecution complex. My good god, BYU folk. Have some levity and get the sand out of your vaginas. The worst possible case scenario (one random anti-Mormon that happens to cheer for Utah tried to get your goat by mocking your trays) doesn't justify 1/100th of the response this has gotten. Grow the fuck up. You are one of the least persecuted groups/religions of all time. Mormon history is extremely tame relative to virtually every single major religion. The PAC-12 is not out to destroy you. Some random drunk tailgating dude is not out to destroy you. This is a tray, at a private tailgate, that one of your faith warriors proactively went sleuthing for.
Like Soft Jazz wrote - if you intend to offend, don't be surprised if someone gets offended. By the same token, if you intend to be offended, don't be surprised if you find something to blow out of proportion.
With Utah's offense, that's game, set, match. Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
by TheBaron 2016-10-01 18:59:18
This team simply can't hang with "explosive offense" teams, defense be damned. Cal's defense is a joke within a joke, upon a joke, and we are probably gonna finish with something like 24 points. That's impressive against Alabama, but it's downright embarrassing against Cal, even for MWC teams.
*Sigh.* I still think this team can win the south if they get their shit together and some of our league leading number of injured starters get healthy. This loss hurts.
I'm posting this for a friend that doesn't have a UF.N account. She has two standing room (SRO) tickets for the USC game that she can't use. She is in a hurry to sell them and is only asking $50/ticket. I did a quick search of the usual suspects (Stubhub, KSL, Vivid seats, Utahtickets.com) and $100 for two tickets to USC is a better deal than anything for sale on any of those sites.
If you are serious about picking them up tonight, shoot me a message and I'll send you her contact info.
USC is set to play what looks to be easily THE single toughest schedule in the entire country. This schedule is such a beast that it might legitimately be the toughest schedule any school has played in quite a few years.
I'm not sure how the season is going to go for the Trojans, but hopefully they manage to rep the PAC-12 well OOC while finishing behind the Utes in the standings.
A Sheriff's deputy says he intended for BYU to investigate male student athletes, not a female rape victim, when he turned her rape case over to the school's Honor Code Office.
"Deputy Randolph never intended that BYU take honor code action against the female victim," the statement reads. "Rather, he intended that BYU investigate male students, particularly male athletes, who may have victimized women or otherwise violated BYU standards regarding sexual conduct."
So the police turn evidence of athlete sexual misconduct over to the honor code office and instead of using it to investigate or punish athletes, they use it to punish and expel a likely rape victim. That's similar to the jokes like "Birmingham A&M better watch out" because the NCAA has evidence of a violation by Alabama. To the surprise of absolutely nobody, the honor code office (allegedly) protects athletes and punishes victims.
BYU privately hides athlete crimes and misconduct while publicly pretending to have "higher standards"? In other news, water is wet.
If Oregon isn't a #1 seed this year, the system is clearly rigged with anti-west coast bias.
by TheBaron 2016-03-13 13:40:50
If Utah is anything lower than a 3 seed, ditto. It will be interesting to see how Holmoe and friends seed things. Lord knows nobody hates the PAC-12 quite like a zoob. Hopefully Holmoe has a modicum of integrity and reps the west.
Either Oregon is going to the Final Four this year or Utah might not be tournament worthy.
by TheBaron 2016-02-07 15:26:30
The gap between these two teams, especially the intelligence and mental toughness gap, is Grand Canyon wide. Oregon looks flat out amazing every time they take the floor against Utah. They are as athletic as any team in the country this year. Their effort level is relentless. It's scary that they have a lot of young talent getting minutes on this team.
Right now is simply too entertaining NOT to spend a few minutes laughing at cougarbored until your sides hurt.
by TheBaron 2016-01-06 21:13:15
Why we won't see Kristo in the Marriott center again.
The reality is that while BYU is in the WCC and Utah in the PAC, Utah has little interest in playing BYU. They get 11 quality home games each year. We get 3-4. They know they have all the card in this game. You could tell before the rivalry game this year that Kristo was definitely nervous. I think that the game took a huge emotional toll on him. If he won't play this year, it is unlikely that he will play the game during the next 6 years, Unless Rose agrees to a 2-1 deal or similar. He knows that BYU will have the most talented teams in the next 6 years. There is really no benefit for him to risk getting beat. It's obvious that Kristo and Hill have been looking for an exit to the series. The fighting excuse is pretty opaque to most savy sports fans and sports media, but Emery's punch (as weak as it was) provided the perfect excuse. If Kristo is nervous about coming to Provo next season, the pressure on him will only increase every year thereafter. That is why he won't be back to the marriott. I expect that he will move on to another program.
Now if you only think that this will cost Utah 80K for the buyout then you don't understand how big this is for the State, the region and to Utah politicians. From talking to a legislator, it may be a little more difficult to get funding for some of Utahs capital projects in the coming sessions. Of course Utah has a lot of money but Utah also spends (wastes) a lot of money. This decision will cost them a bit more than they have calculated.
*Larry K and Utah are nervous and scared to play the WCC powerhouse that is BYU.
*It is already an established fact that the Final Four bound Lone Peak All-stars would sleepwalk to dominating victories over the Runnin' Utes.
*Larry K is so scared of BYU and the Marriott Center that he will never coach a game in Provo again.
*Larry will literally change jobs to get out of the state of Utah, just to avoid the certain death that is stepping on the court against the mighty Cougars of Provo.
*The Mormon Mafia will use the legislature to financially damage the state's flagship university if the U doesn't get on its knees and fellate the LDS church's college basketball program.
I get a ton of pleasure out of the fact that unconstitutional political corruption is the only potential leverage BYU has over Utah in 2016, and even their craziest fans know it. "We should have the gerrymandered LDS state legislature threaten to defund a public university if they don't bow to the athletic desires of a private religious school!" Everything about that is so typical of the way this state is ran that I half expect it happen.
The Big 12 is wise not to get in bed with such corrupt sociopathic zealots and the U would be wise to sever ties once and for all.
I've been holding onto this one for a while, but now seems as good of a time as any to post it.
by TheBaron 2015-12-09 16:33:52
These are the bubble dwelling, arrested development mental midgets that Utah's coaching staff has to outsmart on the 19th. I like our odds.
Before anybody asks, no; I am not a 3D artist for Pixar. Sadly, this footage is very real, not staged, and all parties involved were dead sober. If Utah loses to these guys, the entire coaching staff should be forced to walk home ass naked.
There are many possible outcomes for the game tonight, but the most likely outcome is Utah cruising to 3 in a row.
by TheBaron 2015-12-02 15:12:28
People have been giving BYU-Provo far too much credit. Here are BYU-Provo's opponent rankings according to Ken Pom -
Utah Valley - 335
Long Beach State - 206
Mississippi Valley State - 349
Belmont - 90
Provo's current SOS? 345 out of 351 total D1 basketball teams. If that doesn't sound crazy enough, they actually lost to #206 Long Beach State.
BYU-Provo's best win came at home against #90 Belmont. Belmont has also lost games to Arizona State and Evansville.
But wait! There's more! Their game in Provo against Mississippi Valley State - yes; 0-8, ranked #349 out of 351 teams, Mississippi Valley State - went down to the wire. It was a 5 point game with 30 seconds to go.
Folks, BYU-Provo is not a good basketball team this year.
Utah, on the other hand, has several key players that have inexplicably played like hot garbage, yet has managed to go 5-1 against:
Southern Utah - 316
San Diego State - 44
Texas Tech - 78
Miami - 17
Temple - 64
Idaho State - 330
While not exactly murderers row outside of Miami, Utah has actually played against and been tested by real competition. The odds are tonight's game isn't going to be nearly as close as many of you are assuming. If the players that tore it up last season but look like hot garbage this season actually show up to play tonight, it will be a blow out.
I see only two ways BYU-Provo wins this game:
1) Poeltl gets into deep foul trouble very early in the game, forcing Utah to sit him for multiple 10+ minute stretches. BYU-Provo is now able to absolutely dominate inside with rebound and put back after rebound and put back, winning in a close one.
2) One of the Provo allstars goes absolutely incredible hulk, Steph Curry unconscious and has literally the game of his life; hitting stepback 3s through the double team from 5 feet behind the arc, making out of control scoop shots under the defender while falling down 15 feet from the basket, etc. en route to a 30+ point performance.
Barring those two scenarios or something unforeseen and outlandish, Utah is about 7 hours away from 3 in a row.
When I listen to KW talk about the Utes, he sounds exactly like most Ute fans - beyond frustrated with the offensive incompetence to the point he wants to scream and start smashing $#!+.
by TheBaron 2015-11-28 14:16:25
The difference is that it's Ute fans' job to get drunk and have a good time, while it's literally Kyle's job to fix the offense regardless of whatever excuses are out there. He's clearly as frustrated with the offense as we are and yet he's been woefully incapable of fixing the offense. New year, same shit and he knows it better than anybody.
That should piss me off, but instead it softens my perspective of Kyle. He really is trying his hardest to fix the offense and he's drowning like a quadriplegic in the Mariana Trench without a life jacket.
What blows my mind is that when Norris is healthy, Gionni is probably only the second best LB on the team. At the same time, Gionni is probably a top 3 all-time LB at Utah. How in the Gayle "Clit Dozer" Ruzicka did we manage to get 2 of the top 3 all-time Utah LB's on the same team?!?!
It's a crazy, crazy world we live in when Utah's strongest position group is LB.
Our D-line is nationally elite. Our secondary is nasty. At the same time, our LBs are several steps better than both.
Bad news for the Utes - neither Juju Smith nor Adoree Jackson are eligible to declare for the draft after this season.
by TheBaron 2015-10-31 15:17:24
USC is going to be insane next year if they hire even a half decent coach. They are mind-blowingly stacked right now. Probably the most future first round draft picks of any team in the country.
It's criminal that USC isn't challenging for the CFP every season. There are probably a couple dozen coaches that could coast that Ferrari into 11+ wins most years. Hopefully USC finds a way to screw it up and hires another Sark/Kiffen.
I visited a couple ASU message boards and cougarbored for what I call Schadenfreude Sunday.
by TheBaron 2015-10-18 20:29:05
The buzzword on cougarbored right now? "Lucky".
Most posters can't for the life of them figure out how Utah keeps getting so "lucky". Of course, if you watch every game with a sincere belief that Utah is overrated and that every opponent is clearly, undeniably superior to Utah, I can see why you'd think it's crazy that the inferior team keeps winning every single week.
An intelligent person would realize that they had severely underrated the supposedly inferior team and be forced to admit to its superiority. A moron chalks it all up to "luck" and continues to repeat the same mistake week after week. BYU-P fans are mostly morons, so every other post over there has the word 'luck' worked into it multiple times.
Of course, the two luckiest plays I've seen all season were close your eyes and say a prayer Hail Marys and both happened to involve a certain parochial school, in back-to-back weeks, against blah opponents that turned out not to be nearly as good as was assumed at the time. If it wasn't for some incredible, almost unheard of luck, said parochial school would have started the season 0-4.
You have to appreciate the irony of the fans of arguably the luckiest program in the 2015 college football season pointing their fingers at arguably the #1 program in the 2015 college football season and shouting luck. It's a classic case of psychological projection; also known as every damn day on cougarbored. All you can do is laugh at these ass clowns and keep it moving. 0% chance they will ever get it. That fan base is a black hole of cognitive dissonance.
I hate... loathe... DETEST when religion is shoehorned into college football.
by TheBaron 2015-10-09 15:47:17
I'm not talking about the Mormon choir singing "Utah Man" (although I do find a choir of teetotalers singing a drinking song somewhat amusing), but rather the response it elicits from LDS Utes, non-LDS Utes, and the zoobies. It's unfortunate - understandable, but unfortunate nonetheless - that a large number of people around the state can't just listen to it and say "that's a very talented choir singing an interesting rendition of 'Utah Man'" and move on.
Instead, it makes some non-LDS Utes think "Oh, great. Another log on the bonfire of misconceptions about the demographics of Utah." It confuses some LDS Utes into falling for the zoob trap of mixing football pride with religious pride. It leads to gnashing of teeth from the zoobies that see it as a slap in the face for their choir to support such a filthy, vile "anti-Mormon" university.
Why can't football just be about football and religion about religion? Is there any other place in the country where religion constantly gets shoehorned into secular places and events that it has no business being shoehorned into?
There is one thing I am certain we can all agree on - all the blame lies with BYU-Provo and its horrible fan base that takes every possible opportunity to shoehorn religion into %^#@!ing EVERYTHING. If we woke up tomorrow to news that BYU-P and all of the zoobs had been wiped from the face of the earth, the mixing of religion and football would disappear with them. Utes of every creed, color, and conviction would be better off for it.
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