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    Rough day so far for the Utes.

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-30 12:10:29

    Players confirmed to have been cut:

    Tevita Stevens
    Joe Kruger
    Karl Williams
    Jake Murphy
    Anthony Denham
    Tevita Finau

    Hopefully that will be all.

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    It's time to play a game I like to call "Guess The Zoob"!

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-29 17:04:01

    BYU will be without 7 starters for tonight's game against UCONN. Two players will be sitting out due to injury and five players are suspended for honor code violations.

    The objective: guess which two zoobies will be taking it easy on the couch, checking tinder all weekend and which five zoobies will be busy administering stitches to some Provostani snitches? With 21 possible combinations, you have a discouragingly improbable 4.76% chance of guessing correctly.


    Good luck!


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    Have I mentioned lately how nice it is to finally be rid of that worthless excuse for a sports journalist, Lya?

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-16 19:02:55

    The Trib has really been stepping up their game compared to the lazy Utah hater they used to have covering the Utes. Piper and Goon put together a nice video from the scrimmage today.

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    I was doing a quick search for an article that does a good job breaking down the recent NCAA changes, and I came across this gem:

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-08 14:04:11

    U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) issued a statement Thursday saying the NCAA's new model may warrant Congressional review from the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he is a member.

    “The NCAA should be responsible for promoting fair competition among its participating institutions and their student athletes,” Hatch said. “I am concerned that today's actions could create an uneven playing field that may prevent some institutions from being able to compete fairly with other schools that have superior resources to pay for student athletes. I also worry about how this decision will affect a school's Title IX requirements and whether this consolidation of power will restrict competition and warrant antitrust scrutiny.”
    http://www.cbssports.com/colleg efootball/writer/jon-solomon/24651709/nca a -adopts-new-division-i-model-giving-power - 5-autonomy

    It is no coincidence that Hatch is the senator most upset by the changes. It is even less of a coincidence that Hatch specifically brought up "concerns" about Title IX requirements under any potential changes. It sounds like the Provo mafia has already gone hat in hand to Mr. Hatch and explained their Title IX-WCC predicament.

    Does anybody really think Hatch is worried about SUU when he says "some institutions" will be unfairly placed on an uneven playing field? We all know exactly which institution he's worried about. Of course, by acting in BYU's best interest he's acting against the University of Utah's best interest, which is extremely unethical considering he's a Utah senator and BYU is a private religious institution. Hatch's primary allegiance clearly isn't the state of Utah, but rather the LDS church.

    In the end, it's all political theatre; public masturbation. In the coming years, BYU is going to find it extremely difficult just to tread water. Unless they are able to strong-arm the entire WCC into giving them what they want, I predict that it won't be very long after the changes before BYU joins whichever G5 conference ends up approving the most P5 legislation. Staying in the WCC would put their athlete benefits behind schools like New Mexico and Tulane, which will be completely unacceptable to all of the zoobs that think BYU is super important. At least in the AAC they'll be able to offer some of the things P5 schools will be able to.

    BYU is a slug and the lid just got unscrewed from the salt shaker.

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    Now we have jealous zoob state senators trolling our media day tweets.

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-23 13:02:00



    http://twitter.com/gopTODD/status/4920139 23546046464

    What in the name of Weddle is wrong with these crybaby fuckwits? This is how our state senators carry themselves? Scary thought - this mouth breather is one of the members of the gerrymandered zoob caliphate in charge of approving the U's budget.

    There is nothing I'd like to see more than the upcoming contract with MiP to be cancelled and never resumed. Utah State is the only local school we should give the time of day.

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    The college football playoff financials for the 2014 season have been released.

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-16 15:08:56

    (See USA Today's breakdown here.)

    The payouts are as follows:

    $50M per conference for the P5

    $15M per conference for the G5

    Each conference gets an additional $6M per team that makes the four team playoff and $4M per team that makes a playoff bowl in a non-playoff year. (Playoff designated bowls are the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, Fiesta, and Peach.)

    Teams that make the 4 team playoff receive $2M each for expenses for the semifinal and an additional $2M each for expenses if they make the final.

    The Rose and Sugar bowls will be used for the playoffs once every three years. During the off years, each bowl will pay approx. $40M per conference to the PAC-12 and B1G (Rose) and the SEC and Big 12 (Sugar). The ACC has a contract with the Orange Bowl that will pay them approx. $27.5M per year during off years. These payouts are in addition to the $50M per conference baseline payout.

    Notre Dame, while not part of a conference, will receive a baseline payout $2.3M per year, plus the standard payouts related to any playoff bowl games they happen to make.

    All other independents will make $307,552.67 each.

    Each conference will receive an additional $300K per year for each team that meets the NCAA's minimum APR for bowl eligibility.

    I took a couple of minutes to break the numbers down per team. I did not include the payouts for making the playoffs or one of the other playoff designated bowls because there is no way to know what teams from what conferences will make the playoffs or the other big bowl games. I did not include the payouts for APR because there is no way to know which teams will fail to meet the minimum. Also, it is unclear if independents will receive the APR payout. At this time, it appears that only conferences are eligible to receive APR payouts, which would be yet another kick in the balls for independents.

    Big 12 - $7.67M per team
    PAC-12 - $6.39M per team
    B1G & SEC - $5.48M per team
    ACC - $4.88M per team
    Notre Dame - $2.3M
    AAC & Sun Belt - $1.36M per team
    MWC - $1.25M per team
    CUSA & MAC - $1.15M per team
    Independents - $307,552.67 per team

    (If you are so inclined, you can see a the spreadsheet here - http://i.imgur.com/be9w4n7.png)

    Keep in mind that these figures are only for money related to the playoffs and the six designated playoff bowls. Payouts for each conference from other bowl games will be business as usual. Obviously the participants are going to be almost exclusively P5 schools, which will add up to quite a lot of additional money for P5 schools on top of the numbers above. The G5 conferences are only guaranteed one participant per season in one of the 6 playoff approved bowls, which will almost certainly mean a $4M payout and a trip to the Fiesta or Peach.

    These figures are for the 2014 season only and are expected to increase a good deal year over year. Also not included is money from merchandising and sponsorships, which is estimated to be as much as $40M-$50M per season. That money would be distributed unevenly as part of the base payouts.

    When all is said and done, in the first year alone I would not be surprised to see the PAC-12 distribute more than $10M per team in 2014 playoff money. This is obviously a BIG deal. The BCS was paying the PAC-12 anywhere from $17M to $27M per year to be split 12 ways, so the new format is truly a windfall for P5 schools.

    BYU is expected to get paid the least playoff money of any school in the country - just $307,552.67 total. Unfortunately, since they are not a member of a G5 conference, they are not eligible to take the one guaranteed G5 spot in one of the 6 big bowls, which would come with $4M payday. They could always get selected as an at-large over a highly ranked P5 team for one of the 4 non-playoff bowls, but the odds of that are extremely small; even if BYU managed to go 11-1.

    The only way BYU can guarantee themselves additional money is finishing in the top 4 of the playoff commission's end of season rankings and forcing their way into one of the $6M bowls. Beyond pulling off that miracle, they could quadruple their payout and gain access to the guaranteed G5 bowl slot if they admitted the mistake of going independent and joined the MWC or American. Pride comes with a price.

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    Silver lining: the U now officially approves and endorses singing "We drink our stein of lager and we smoke our big cigars".

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-02 13:40:19

    “When printed officially by the university, this 2014 version of the fight song will be used, but historical renditions of the song will always be acceptable,” Pershing said. “We encourage you to sing — loudly and with pride — whichever version resonates with you.”

    I've always sung the original 1904 lyrics, but it's nice to hear that the U now officially endorses those lyrics, even if they caved to pressure from teetotalers a few decades ago and caved to pressure from a couple dozen PC crusaders a few hours ago. Maybe the day will come where tradition becomes important again, prompting a change of the lyrics back to how they were intended to be sung when Utah Man was the team drinking song.

    All of this talk about "Utah Man" got me wondering - is the U the only major university that has an official drinking song that doubles as our fight song?

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    The two scandals themselves cannot be compared in *ANY* way on *ANY* level, but the general reaction from the zoobs has been eerily similar to the reaction of Penn State fans.

    by TheBaron
    2014-05-22 13:47:06

    Clueless denial; outrage directed towards the messengers rather than the cause of the scandal; shifting blame for the program's failures away from those responsible; aggressive scapegoating; cries for people that know the truth to keep their mouths shut and stonewall the investigation; shaming and/or threatening anybody with the courage to speak out; engaging in a mass campaign of spin and propaganda to cast doubt about the veracity of the claims and the character of the accusers...

    I can't say that I'm surprised, but it is sad to see, nonetheless. Fans can act pretty crazy when the school/team they love is under fire. Of course, it doesn't help when the fan base in question is filled with morons that place their leaders on disturbingly high and entirely undeserved pedestals like Penn State fans did with Joe Paterno and BYU fans do with literally everything in any way related to BYU. How can a person possibly reason with True Believer™ Stripling Warrior zoobs that have no boundaries between football and their religious beliefs?

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    Wooooow. Miller STILL hasn't pulled his starters.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 14:37:18

    At this point it's hard to call that anything other than a giant "fuck you, you fucking fucks" directed at Krystko and Utah. What a douche.

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    Nick Johnson always plays out of his mind against Utah. Ugh.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 13:35:36

    I know he's just a good player in general, but dude has looked amazing against us for 3 years now.

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    This is the most biased officiating against Utah we've seen all season.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-05 23:00:23

    Somebody please tell me I'm being irrational and talk me off the ledge.

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    This is exactly what UCLA did at home against USC and Colorado.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-15 16:20:11

    Sleep walk through the first half - making the game look competitive - and then absolutely destroy both of them in a spectacular fashion in the second half.

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    A lot of people are going to have to walk back dumb things they said when they assumed the Texas Tech fan used a racial slur to incite Marcus Smart to assault him.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-09 17:11:31

    The video below provided by Texas Tech clearly proves that all the fan said to Marcus was "You piece of crap." A 3 game suspension is EXTREMELY light, in my opinion. I think Smart should have been suspended for the remainder of the season. You simply CANNOT lay your hands on a fan for calling you a piece of crap, period.

    Now, if it had turned out that the guy really did come at Smart with racial slurs like some were claiming (in spite of having zero evidence at the time), I'd have been all for giving Smart a one game token suspension, praising him for showing restraint, revoking the fan's season tickets, and banning him from the arena. Assaulting a fan for saying "you piece of crap" should be a year ending incident. That is inexcusable and then some.

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    The officiating has been surprisingly decent all season, but for some reason the last two games now have been called comically lopsided against Utah.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-01 13:44:09

    If I didn't know any better, I'd think the conference is concerned about Utah having a negative effect on tournament seedings. This is getting worse than the Arizona game.

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    If it wasn't for Jahii Carson being a bad ass, this would be quite the blowout.

    by TheBaron
    2014-01-23 20:00:15

    Dude has some misses, but he's pretty much the only reason ASU is hanging tough. His defense has been even more impressive than his offense. Dude has skills.

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    Courtesy of a masochistic UCLA fan:

    by TheBaron
    2014-01-18 23:29:44

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/7mxxx72 20fskx4c/BB.2014.01.18_Utah_1st_Half.avi

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/zzwwu7p izey59ac/BB.2014.01.18_Utah_2nd_Half.avi

    I gave it a quick once over and it looks like the bruin did a pretty good job on the rip/encode. Audio isn't perfect, but seems to improve as the game goes on. Video quality is solid for a second-rate Fox Sports 1 production. Commercials have been removed. The ending is happy. Get it while you can.

    FYI - if you download the video it looks and sounds a lot higher quality than if you watch it in your browser.

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    The NY Times just published an article on the PAC-12, facilities, and money. It includes references to Utah and a couple of quotes from Chris Hill.

    by TheBaron
    2013-11-30 00:40:03

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/30/sports/ ncaafootball/television-revenue-fuels-a-c o nstruction-boom-in-the-pac-12.html

    It also includes a somewhat interactive infographic that is worth checking out:

    http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2013/ 11/30/football-conferences/?ref=ncaafootb a ll

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    Another season, another quarterback catastrophe.

    by TheBaron
    2013-11-18 12:43:49

    Are there really schools that complete an entire season without an unmitigated disaster at the most important and critical position on the field? Teams that have the luxury of starting the same QB all season? What is Utah batting in that department since Alex left? .111? I haven't done any research, but I'd be absolutely shocked if that isn't dead last in the entire country over that time period.

    The last 2 seasons the same QB started every game, Utah is 25-0 with two BCS trophies. The last 2 seasons of the QB carousel, Utah is 9-13 (4-12 in PAC-12 games.) Will we ever see a talented and healthy QB play an entire season for Utah again? Logic says 'of course', but the heart says 'not anytime soon.'

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    You can't make this $#!+ up.

    by TheBaron
    2013-10-18 18:25:36

    So I've had a couple of people, including a smug Arizona grad, send me that silly article about Utah having a massive age advantage because Utah is bursting at the seams with returned LDS missionaries (just 9 total out of 85 ) and while I was eating lunch today I decided to do a little data gathering.

    I went through this week's depth chart for both Utah and Arizona and then looked up the age of each player. I put their ages into excel and calculated the average. Here are the results:



    So after the Utah-hating BYU fan reporter for the Arizona Daily Star perverts and massages the data to tell a lie that Utah is so loaded with 24 and 25 year old returned missionaries that it's practically criminal, it turns out that Arizona actually has a small age advantage over Utah on both sides of the ball.

    Dude took a small age advantage for Arizona and sold it as a massive, unfair, pseudo-cheating age domination for Utah. In interviews given both in Tucson and Salt Lake City, Rich Rod has been doing his best to sell the same lie. He mentioned the age of Utah players and called them "old guys" 4 times in his weekly press conference. He repeated the same lines in interviews with the local media in Utah. He's made jokes about Utah players being similar in age to a 40 year old Tedy Bruschi. All I see is a douche premeditatively building in an excuse for a loss tomorrow. I hope the Utes are all too happy to oblige.

    Sources:
    Utah's depth chart for Arizona
    Utah's roster
    Arizona's depth chart for Utah
    Arizona's Roster

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    I am sorry for the zoob-related post, but I need a favor.

    by TheBaron
    2013-10-15 18:20:10

    Does anybody have the picture of all of the red-clad Utah fans filling in the 'U' in 'BYU' in the seats at LES after the 54-10 blow out? I thought I had saved it, but apparently not. Thanks in advance.

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    Wait, wait, wait. Let me get this straight.

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-26 13:21:06

    So we are supposed to believe that Hadley has been close friends with Jacob Stocking since he was a kid. We are supposed to believe that the two of them are so close that Stocking has lavished tens of thousands of dollars upon Hadley, taking multiple trips to Las Vegas (that we know about) and god only knows what else and to what degree; staying in penthouse suites; partying it up in the VIP section of extremely expensive clubs; drinking a $7,000 - $10,000 order of Dom P; holding up signs spelling "Spence" even though Jacob is the one footing the bill for all of it; etc.

    Taking all of that into consideration, we are also supposed to believe that in spite of Hadley and Stocking being so close that Stocking paid for all of that and likely a lot more, Stocking never paid $50 for a ticket to see his close friend play a football game. The most important thing in Hadley's life is football, but Stocking never bothered to attend a single event and support such a dear, dear friend. Not even once.

    Really? I'm supposed to believe that? It sounds like a load of bullshit to me. It sounds like Hadley might have committed some major NCAA violations and now BYU's minions, such as Benedict, are trying to cover it up and distance BYU from Stocking.

    I'm sorry, but when you are such close friends with somebody that you are willing to lavish them with tens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts, you cough up a couple twenties to attend the most important thing in their life and what has defined everything about them for many years. "...never attended"? Not even once? I don't buy it. I don't know what parts are being left out, changed, exaggerated, or downplayed, but as it's being sold, BYU's and Hadley's story doesn't come close to passing the smell test.

    Excerpt from Benedict's press release:

    All the alleged NCAA violations, Hadley said, were baseless. BYU verified that by checking out so-called booster Jacob Stocking. His name appeared in no BYU athletics databases. Turns out he's a family friend of Hadley. The family said that Stocking has never attended a BYU football game, much less supported the program financially.

    But claims that Hadley had partied with his friend in Vegas were true. He had gone to clubs and on more than one occasion and consumed alcohol. The photo had been taken over the summer. The most recent trip to Vegas had happened during BYU's bye week following its victory over Texas.

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    Suck it, zoobs!

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-23 12:33:58

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    I tuned on BYUtv for literally two minutes. This is what I heard, verbatim, before I turned it off:

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-22 01:01:21

    "For some reason BYU's offense just couldn't put up points. There's no explanation."

    "clearly this was a game that BYU should have won."



    You can't make this shit up. Go Utes! Fuck BYU!

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    Just a reminder in case anybody missed it -

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-20 11:07:49

    ***Evidence that "Darren Lucy" is a Utah fan***

    --In an email to Utah's compliance office he went out of his way to conspicuously and unnecessarily refer to himself as a "die hard Utah Utes fan".

    --Absolutely nothing else.

    **Evidence that "Darren Lucy" is a BYU fan***

    --Before sending any emails to anybody, "Darren Lucy" goes onto cougarboard under the username "dlucy44" and makes a post with his accusations against Hadley before anybody else could possibly know what he was about to do. He doesn't make a post on any Utah message boards. http://i.imgur.com/gUFBejx.jpg

    --In this cougarboard post, "dlucy44" refers to BYU's fan base as "we"; refers to Holmoe as "our AD"; refers to Hadley as "one of our linebackers" and "one of our senior LB's". Does that sound like a "die hard Utah Utes fan"?

    --Darren could have just as easily emailed BYU's compliance department and tipped off KSL or the Deseret News, but instead he contacts the school and the newspaper that zoobs like to call "anti-Mormon". (Because everything that isn't pro-Mormon is somehow anti-Mormon by default, right?) This guy seems concerned that BYU and its minions will sweep things under the rug or at least delay taking action.

    --In the email to Utah's compliance office, Darren went out of his way to conspicuously and unnecessarily refer to himself as a "die hard Utah Utes fan", in spite of doing the exact opposite in the post he made on cougarboard. Sounds like he was going for the "2 for 1" - hurt Hadley and make Ute fans take the fall for it.

    --A cougarboard poster with a track record for honesty makes a post claiming the guy who reported Hadley is actually a BYU fan and that he did it out of jealousy over a girl Hadley is involved with. http://oi44.tinypic.com/2uq0wg9.jpg

    --The accusations in dlucy44's cougarboard post and in the email include a ton of major accusations that the provided photo cannot prove. To someone who's primary concern is ensuring that Hadley gets suspended for the Utah game, including a bunch of false information that can't be proven would risk weakening the case and possibly even discredit the source. To someone that hates Hadley personally and wants to hurt Hadley specifically and as deeply as possible, they'd want to make as many negative accusations about Hadley as they can; drag his name through as much mud as they can conjure, evidence be damned.
    ----------------------------------------- ----------

    So all of that and we are supposed to believe the accuser is a "die hard Utah Utes fan" simply because he ham-fistedly wrote he was in an email he sent after he outed himself on cougarboard as a BYU fan? This shit is getting out of control.

    I suggest NOT reading the nasty things the zoobs have been posting on cougarboard. It's getting really, really ugly over there, including threats of violence and other things against Utah's compliance officer, brainstorming ways they can get her fired for doing her job, cyberstalking her, wishing all kinds of creative "pay back" upon Utah fans, etc.

    The "baptism" video faux-controversy turned out to be a load of bullshit, but that didn't stop them for condemning all of our fans and players as anti-Mormon bigots. They've found a Twitter photo of Utah's compliance officer that **has been confirmed to have been photoshopped by an LDS compliance officer at another school**, but they are calling her anti-Mormon, wishing cervical cancer on her, saying they'd like to drop an air conditioner on her, and a ton of other terrible things.

    This "Darren Lucy" guy is an admitted BYU fan that has been confirmed by other BYU sources to be a BYU fan that has it out for Hadley over a girl, but that hasn't stopped them from condemning all Utah fans as "snitches" (the irony!) and wishing all manner of harm upon the whole of us.

    I don't even know what to say anymore at this point. Someone should compile it all and send it to Chris Hill and Tom Holmoe. The hate in this rivalry seems to come about 90% from the zoobs and gets blamed 90% on us. I am sick of being made out to be a bad person and a bigot and less than because I am not LDS. I am sick of having to constantly remind myself that a fan base that is 99.9% LDS, goes out of its way to bring religion into everything, and proudly defines themselves as a "missionary tool" is not representative of most LDS people or the LDS church. I am sick of watching them do everything in their power to increase anti-LDS sentiment and then crying bigotry if anybody dares to react to their hatemongering.

    I would love to see Utah move on before one of these assholes decides follow through on their endless stream of threats. The LDS church should consider how many non-LDS people BYU's fan base manages to alienate and strongly consider shutting down BYU athletics.

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    Some interesting stats that raise an interesting question -

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-19 15:03:51

    A lot has been made of ESPN's new total QBR. They claim it is the most accurate measure of a QBs skill and value ever; far more accurate than the QB rating system that's been around for many years. I went to ESPN to take a look at how Wilson stacks up, but while I was there I noticed something that got me thinking.

    #1 and #2 in both "pass EPA" and "total EPA" are none other than Sean Mannion and Chuckie Keeton. If this statistic is to be believed, Utah has played what are essentially the two best QBs in the country through the first 25% of the season.

    This discovery raises an obvious question - has Utah's secondary looked bad because they had to start the year going up against the two best QBs they will face all season - two of the very best QBs in all of college football - or did a crappy Utah secondary make an overrated Mannion and Keeton look all-world?

    If you believe that Mannion and Keeton really are all that, Utah could still have a solid defense and a quality season. If you believe Mannion and Keeton are not nearly as good as they've looked to date, Utah could be in for a very long year of getting torched by most teams for the remainder of the season.

    Which is it? Are Mannion and Keeton going to be two of the top QBs in the country this year, or is Utah's secondary a dumpster fire that will keep us out of a bowl game?

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    Now that cougarboard has gone apoplectic over the video they claim was attacking their faith, I'm going to post the truth about it.

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-18 01:18:02

    College football teams are a lot larger than many people realize. With walk-ons included, there are well over 100 players on a team and just as one would expect, the players form various groups, cliques, and fraternities with each other. For example, at Utah the linebackers have been calling themselves "the KONGO" for years. You typically have to be a linebacker to be a "member" and they've done all kinds of different things as rituals or membership rites over the years. They've even made custom t-shirts on multiple occasions.

    A number of the of players at the U that have been using LGI and FINAO a lot lately. FINAO = Failure Is Not An Option. LGI = Let's Get It. They are nothing more than motivational catchphrases that they've adopted as a credo of sorts.

    The video, which I saw about a week ago and a zoob graciously captured and posted here for the purposes of shaming us, had the caption of "baptized in the name of LGI". They were simply messing around in the hot and cold tubs and told Blechen they were going to baptize him in the name of LGI. You'll notice the players in the video keep throwing up an "L", which is meant to represent "LGI". The video was posted on August 23rd; before the football season even started. It has nothing to do with rivalry week or mocking LDS people. (As if baptism is somehow unique to the LDS religion anyway.)

    As you can see by watching it in context, the video has nothing to do with the LDS religion or any religion, really. Unfortunately, the zoobies are dumb, more naive than a 4 year old, and have a raging persecution complex. They look to manufacture offense and for reasons to be outraged at every opportunity. They are using this video as a cudgel to bait LDS Ute fans (they call them 'ALUFs' to distinguish them from superior LDS members, i.e. BYU fans) into denouncing their team and alumni as anti-LDS and to prop up the comically untrue claims of zoobs that Utes are constantly attacking and persecuting LDS religious beliefs.

    They are religion-bating hatemongers with the most nefarious of intentions that should never, ever, EVER be trusted or listened to. They are the ones that constantly focus on the LDS vs. non-LDS aspect of the rivalry and they constantly use religion as a wedge to divide the Ute fan base. How many times will people fall for their petty lies and distortions before they learn their lesson?

    Football isn't supposed to be about religion. Going to college isn't supposed to be about religion. As long as we keep playing BYU, the zoobs will do everything in their power to make everything about religion. Shit like this manufactured video "controversy" are exhibit A for why Utah needs to move on from this toxic relationship.

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    A comment about BYU's Utah/Boise State BOGO offer that Ute2004 posted:

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-17 16:50:52

    http://ev9.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ SEGetEventList?groupCode=TT&linkID=byu

    This is actually an attempt to sell out the Utah game while intentionally discouraging Ute fans from buying tickets.

    BYU vastly overestimated the size and commitment of their fan base when they decided to sell endzone seats to Texas and Utah for $90/ea. They also were looking to thoroughly gouge the thousands of Texas and Utah fans they expected to attend each game. Normally these $90 tickets sell to BYU fans for $110 per season. Not surprisingly, it backfired. In spite of selling thousands of seats to visiting Texas and Utah fans, BYU fans were not willing to spend $90 a seat to pick up the remaining slack.

    With Texas, this resulted in BYU dropping the price down to $60/seat for the final week in order to stimulate sales. It worked decently, but there were still a couple of thousand seats that went empty for that game. Embarrassingly, they failed to sell out an extremely rare visit from a then-ranked Texas, even at the reasonable price of $60/seat.

    Not surprisingly, BYU's fans that were too cheap to pay $90 for Texas are also too cheap to pay $90 for Utah, leaving once again thousands of empty seats. Instead of lowering the price to $60 and risking a sea of red after the remaining tickets are snatched up by Utah fans, BYU went with the Chargers model to discourage opposing fans from buying tickets.

    The Chargers used to have a problem with Raiders fans buying up all of the non-season tickets for the annual Chargers-Raiders match, turning the stadium into a sea of black and silver. The solution was to force anybody buying a single game ticket to the Raiders game to also buy tickets to two other games, making it inconvenient and expensive for those pesky Raiders fans to swarm on San Diego. Unfortunately, a lot of Chargers fans are fairly fickle and end up dumping their Raiders ticket on the secondary market, thereby allowing Raiders fans to gobble them up.

    Apparently BYU is trying to do the same thing to Utah fans. Lucky for them, Provo is not San Diego. Unlike Raiders fans that love taking a trip to San Diego, a large percentage of Utah fans have no desire to go to a game at the zoo. What this will do - mark my words - is result in a couple of thousand more Boise State fans than originally expected, because those BSU tickets are going to hit the secondary market hard, driving down the price. It must suck to be Tom Holmoe and realize even your best home schedule in school history isn't enough to get your "fans" to open their wallets.

    And yes - considering Utah tickets were being sold for $90 each until today, offering a Utah/BSU package for $90 total absolutely qualifies as a BOGO. It is pretty sad that BYU couldn't sell out the Utah and Boise state games without a BOGO offer. For any masochists that don't mind going to a game in Provo, I suggest taking advantage of the BOGO offer and then going out of your way to sell your BSU tickets specifically to Boise State fans.

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    The most depressing part about tonight is that I fully expect Utah to work the zoobies over next week, but it won't mean jack $#!+ and I won't give half a f@ck while I'm watching it happen.

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-15 01:10:00

    Utah is now 0-1 in conference play with the murderer's row of UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, USC, ASU, and Oregon coming up, in that exact order. Utah can blow out BYU and still be disqualified from making a bowl game before we ever see the likes of WSU or Colorado. ¡Jesucristo! The SEC ain't got shit on our SOS.

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    The hardest part of the BYU/Virginia game to wrap my mind around is that Hill was sh!ttier than a diaper laundry service and yet somehow he was the better QB in that game.

    by TheBaron
    2013-08-31 21:17:43

    Hill is easily one of the worst QB's I can remember watching after logging somewhere in the thousands of college football games viewed. The odds of BYU having a QB as stunningly shitty as Hill are very long in a vacuum. But to open the season against the one FBS opponent that somehow has an even worse QB than Hill... and LOSE... What are the odds? What are the odds?

    Hill is probably not the single worst QB I've ever seen. The Virginia QB was fairly close to the single worst QB I've ever seen, but even he might not be the single worst. That said, the two of them combined are without question the worst starting QB combo I've ever seen. It was breathtaking to watch; mostly because I was laughing too hard to catch my breath.

    BYU's secondary is an even weaker position for them than QB and they were fortunate enough to open up against the team least capable of exploiting that weakness... and lost anyway. I will be damn impressed if the zoobs manage to win any games of note this season. They might need two or three Chad Bunn miracles if they intend to go bowling this season.

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    I know I probably should have figured this out ages ago, but it hit me at the gym today that the whole BYU scheduling rift might really be more of a misunderstanding than a rift.

    by TheBaron
    2013-07-09 18:13:27

    Is it possible that both sides of the argument are fighting against a straw man? The "pro" crowd is assuming that the "anti" crowd doesn't want Utah to ever schedule another game with BYU for any reason and the "anti" crowd is assuming that the "pro" crowd wants to play BYU every year always and forever, no matter what, even if it means we pass on H/H opportunities like Michigan.

    What I realized is that both of those groups of people might actually be fairly small. I don't know a lot of people that want to never play BYU again for any reason, just like I haven't met anybody in person that thinks scheduling the BYU game should be Utah's #1 OOC priority every single season in perpetuity.

    How many Utes really fall into these absolutist categories that both sides keep arguing against? How much of the "anti" crowd consists of people that want to see the BYU game continue, but on a de-emphasized basis, and how much of the "pro" crowd are afraid of the BYU game being canceled forever, but don't mind the Michigan series and similar agreements displacing BYU off and on?

    For example, I have been defending the anti viewpoint, but that doesn't mean I want Utah to abandon the series forever. I simply prefer to see BYU as a small piece of the OOC puzzle instead of the focal point. I LOVE the two year break to play Michigan and hope we do it more often. I actually want to see the Holy War continue, but in a reduced capacity; something along the lines of 2 out of every 4 years or 2 out of every 6. On the other hand, if Utah didn't schedule BYU for an entire decade I might push our AD to schedule a home and home. I don't know very many people on the anti side that truly want to see the game disappear forever; just de-emphasized with frequent breaks.

    I've gotten the impression that the "pro" crowd wants to see the game played every year no matter what, variety and opportunities be damned. It feels like the "pro" crowd sees BYU as the cornerstone of Utah's identity, which is both vile and provincial. If a fan is more concerned about playing BYU than they are about expanding the focus and reach of Utah football, they need the upcoming break worst of all.

    Could it be that many people in the "pro" crowd actually agree with my 2 out of every 4 years with alternative series (ex. Michigan) philosophy, but are fighting back against what they see as the specter of canceling the Holy War forever? Could it be that both sides have misunderstood each others' arguments and are fighting over nothing? Could it be that I'm part of some mushy middle minority and most Utes really do want to either ALWAYS play BYU or NEVER play BYU? Could it be that the mushy middle is actually the majority? What say ye?

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