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    Not that it's news, but Derik Stevenson is the definition of a zoob in every way. Derick honestly lives in a completely different reality than the rest of us.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-24 14:39:16

    A reality where the world waits with baited breath for BYU to fart and then declares the aroma "big time". A reality where BYU is a national powerhouse that happens to be down a little bit at the moment, but otherwise would receive an invite from every major conference in the country - if only the university presidents weren't all a bunch of dirty anti-Mormons. Why is the world full of so many anti-Mormons hell bent on holding back BYU from it's rightful place next to, but slightly above Alabama?! Utah got invited to the PAC-12 over BYU? ANTI-MORMONS EVERYWHERE! UGGHHHHH!

    In Derik's reality, BYU beat an "average Texas team" and Utah beat "the worst Michigan team in decades", when both teams are currently sitting on a 3-4 record. Why does Derik call one 3-4 team "average" and the other "the worst in decades"? Oh yeah - BYU beat one of them while evil incarnate, Utah, beat the other. A good little zoobie makes sure to always spin and lie his ass off to cast God's one true university™ in the most flattering light possible, even if that means tearing down BYU's superiors in order to give the illusion of parity.

    Like most zoobs, he calls every quality team Utah beats "overrated" or "terrible" and every mediocre to awful team that BYU beats "underrated" or a couple of bounces away from being ranked. I've seen a different zoob claim that BYU's squeaker at home against a mediocre Virginia team is the best win of any team in the state this season; no joke. He claimed that OSU is "terrible" and UCLA is "bad" and "criminally overrated". Yet when BYU was 4-0 after barely sneaking by bad teams and beating down a 3-4 Texas team that played BYU without 11 of their starters, zoobs argued that BYU should have been top 10 and was a strong candidate for the playoffs.

    Derik calls out Bronco for his "arrogance", but then Derik takes personal credit for BYU's so-called "tradition", speaks as if glory and greatness are BYU's birthrights, and repeatedly calls Utah State a "glorified high school". Of course, he does these things while failing to see even a shred of irony. He doesn't see his own arrogance because he genuinely believes that BYU is a tradition rich power program being embarrassed by Bronco's failure to match BYU's prior glory.

    That is Derik's - and most zoobs - biggest problem. They honestly think BYU used to be big time. In truth, BYU was 2007 Hawaii, and, like Hawaii, they only did it ONE YEAR EVER. Unlike Hawaii, it happened 30 years ago. 30 years! Other than that, BYU's glory years weren't much different from what BYU is right now - a decent mid-major program that almost never played against teams with a pulse, usually lost - often in a blow out - whenever they did play a quality opponent, and spent most of the time racking up wins against terrible teams.

    The reason they went 19-2 against Utah during a 21 year stretch wasn't because BYU was a powerhouse; it was because Utah was at its all-time nadir and the Utes had a hard time beating even the aforementioned terrible teams that BYU was beating up on, let alone beating the pride of the WAC. Speaking of which...

    When your claim to fame is being the best team in the WAC for a couple of decades, after the two best teams in the WAC bolted for greener pastures, you don't have a claim to fame. You are nothing. In reality, BYU isn't at a low point right now - they are near their historical apex. Right now is about as good as BYU has ever been. In 1984, BYU didn't play a single team as good as 2014 USU or Nevada.

    The "greatness" of BYU under LaVell was about exploiting a novel and exotic offensive scheme to beat up on inferior competition and then crow about how they would totally beat the best of the best, if only they got a shot at them. BYU is college football's Uncle Rico. They are the original Boise State - beat up on terrible teams in the WAC after the WAC's best teams left for greener pastures. Both programs even got lucky on a couple of special QB recruits. The similarities are uncanny, except for Boise comes out looking about 100 times more impressive. If you compare their best wins and their overall records, BYU comes out looking like Boise-lite rather than vice versa.

    Zoobs think BYU is big time. The ignorant watching from afar think they are a has-been. The educated know that they are a never-was. Derik is a zoob, and hubris like his could complete BYU's regression to the mean, returning them to what they always were without LaVell or Bronco - a regional punching bag.

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    Reason #73 that Utah deserves to win tonight -

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-16 10:41:12

    OSU created a video hoping to convince OSU fans to "crank it like a chainsaw" whenever they play this terrible song during games, because... um... chainsaws cut wood and beavers chew wood? I'm not sure, but trying to inorganically manufacture a nerdy ass "official" dance move deserves to be punished by Orchard and friends. What kind of football team has its own dance move?

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    I have watched thousands - literally THOUSANDS - of NFL and college football games.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-05 00:17:29

    I watched Ed Hochuli fully steal a done deal win over Denver from San Diego that had major playoff implications on what is considered the worst call in NFL history. It was such bullshit that the rule books for both the NFL and college football have been changed exclusively because of it.

    I hate conspiracy theories and genuinely believe that 99.9% of them are bullshit. In all of those thousands of football games I have watched I have never once believed in such a thing as a legitimate, bonafide referee conspiracy... until tonight.

    There is zero question in my mind that the refs conspired to give that game to UCLA. Utah was the better team by 14-21 points tonight, but the refs made the game go down to the last play - TWICE!

    Even the announcers couldn't stop commenting on the number of "fortunate" calls UCLA got called in their favor and the number of "unfortunate" calls that UCLA should have been penalized heavily for, but weren't. There were so fucking many "unfortunate" calls and almost all of them were so comically egregious that I can no longer believe that while refs frequently blow calls (duh), it is not malicious or with the intent to effect the outcome of the game.

    Unless Utah just played the single unluckiest game of football I have ever witnessed, I believe the referees conspired to cheat that win in UCLA's favor. In spite of Utah overcoming the absurdity to secure the win over a top 10 team on the road, I am disillusioned and despondent right now.

    Like Vin Scully himself, I don't believe what I just saw. Tonight was utter bullshit for four fucking quarters and I want to see someone held accountable. Unfortunately, I know the chances of that are about 0.0001%.

    FUCK!!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the biggest wins ever and all I can see are all of the "missed" ridiculously obvious calls and all of the flagged completely bullshit calls that UCLA was gifted. It was seriously over 100 yards all told. Tonight was the worst screw job I have ever seen in all of my years obsessing over football and the Utes found a way to overcome it. I have no words for that part other than "wow."

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    I've watched this movie so many times.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 22:43:34

    SO GOD DAMN MANY TIMES. Please, sweet and merciful Jesus - let it end differently just this once. Outside of 2008 it always ends in heartbreak under Kyle. Can Utah EVER catch a break without finding a way to ruin it?

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    So when Jim Mora Jr said he's definitely going to kick to Clay, what he really meant is that he's scared $#!+less and will do everything possible to prevent return attempts tonight.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 21:51:18

    I don't blame him.

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    I'm officially into my mid-season loss cycle.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 19:15:14

    I spent all week talking myself out of believing that Utah will win tonight, doing my best to accept the odds are stacked against us and UCLA is not going to allow themselves to have a letdown at home after their big ASU blowout.

    Now that it's game day, I've gone from "just try to enjoy the game for what it is" to "don't be so negative; stranger things have happened" to "what if WSU was a fluke mixed with some terrible luck and Utah is a lot better than I think?"

    I've been fully sucked in and now I'm excited and nervous for the game, just like I would have been if Utah had won last week. Against my better judgement, I really feel like the Utes can pull off the big win. I know I'm not the only one on here that does this to himself every week. It's the roller coaster that makes college football so fun when I'm not melting down over a bad loss.

    In the PAC-12, every week is a new opportunity to make some noise and tonight is a big one. I still have faith that Kyle and co. can pull off a masterful game plan and ruin the Bruins' dream season. Here's to hoping UCLA plays tight and Utah plays like a team with nothing to lose.

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    Classic game thread over on Shaggy Bevo. (One of Texas' most active message boards.)

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 01:47:06

    http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthrea d.php/150988-Utah-State-BYU

    Back to back to back posts -

    MortimerTX: Utah State is pushing BYU's $#@! in

    el squared: Taking Hill out was like killing the queen in a fire ant mound

    MaxATX:

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    B-b-but, but - Taysom jumped over the limp body of a bad Texas team's 3rd string safety after the guy fell down for no reason!

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 00:45:39

    That play meant BYU was a playoff team and all but guaranteed Taysom would win the Heisman! This totally unbiased Monty guy on 1320 told me so! How could the baby Jesus let this happen to God's anointed football team? Where will I buy $5 t-shirts to clothe little Jaxon, Azlyn, Noah, Lakynn, Blaze, and Kaylee? How will the football team convert millions of people if they can't even beat Utah State?

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    No longer drunk. Still can't believe Utah found a way to lose to Wazzu, at home, after being immediately spotted 14 points by the D and special teams.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-28 08:15:30

    I genuinely believed Kyle had turned things around. I was so sure. Easiest PAC-12 opener of his career and yet 0-1, once again, just like 2013; just like 2012; just like 2011. Let me guess how this movie ends - Utah is going to get a huge win, such as UCLA on the road or Oregon at home, and still finish 5-7 or, if we're lucky this year, 6-6. Even if Utah goes 6-6, with the talent on this team, with everything on the line this season, with the current state of the PAC-12... I make a change and I don't look back. This is Kyle's 10th year. If he had an ace up his sleeve he'd have played it years ago.

    Kyle has so many blind defenders that refuse to accept reality; that are proud of perennial mediocrity; that are happy with a goal 6-6; that were afraid to replace McBride. This season is Kyle's ceiling, people. He doesn't recruit any better talent than the talent we already have right now. He's on his 7th offensive coordinator in 7 years and this time he didn't just promote some random position coach from within the staff expecting them to be the next Chip Kelly. If he can't get it done this year, he's not getting it done.

    Obviously there are still another 8 games to be played and "anything can happen." Of course it's theoretically possible Utah still puts together its first PAC-12 winning season. (4-5, 3-6, 2-7, 0-1)

    Like I said, I genuinely believed Kyle was going to turn things around. I was so sure. Last night broke my spirit and suffocated my faith. It got me to finally say the last thing a program ever wants a fanatic to say - "I need to take a step back and stop spending so much time and energy on Utah football."

    I am an extremely grounded and healthy NFL fan, but a sick and unhealthy college fan. I'm going to try to take a step back and accept the mediocrity of Utah football. Hopefully one day we'll be able to reach the maddeningly reasonable, but seemingly impossible goal of breaking .500 in conference play. Just don't expect it to happen without a coaching change.

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    When your defense gets a pick six and your special teams gets a touchdown return, if you lose on the road in Tuscaloosa you have some serious questions that need to be asked about the heart of your players and the competency of your coaching staff.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-27 23:15:44

    When you lose to a 1-3 Washington State with your entire fucking career on the line --- AT HOME ---- you need to seriously consider naming an interim head coach before you embarrass yourself any further in next game. If Utah loses to UCLA, I will fully support letting Kyle go back to 1979 and letting Kalani give it a go as the interim HC.

    If Kyle has even a basal level of integrity, he will consider seppuku as an honorable way out of the wet, steamy pile of diarrhea he's created. What a fucking joke his program is. A pathetic, shameful joke.

    WSU is the third worst team in the conference, for Christ's sake; ahead of only Colorado and.......... Utah.

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    The zoobs don't play dirty. Bronco says this is just "fanatical effort" and playing "on the edge", both of which he encourages.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-23 13:19:48

    Bronco calls cheap shots and late hits "aggression penalties" and has no plans to correct them. BYU is currently the single most penalized team in college football (seriously - #1), and they aren't coming from false starts or delay of game.



    It's ironic that so many zoobs racistly refer to black players on other teams as "thugs" when their team has more dirty players and thuggish behavior than any other team in the country.

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    Max Hall is the worst person to ever be a part of the Utah/BYU rivalry by an incalculable margin.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-02 15:05:49

    The guy is an unapologetic hypocrite, a degenerate liar, and - worst of all - a coward. He's also responsible for the most classless press conference I have ever seen in any sport in my entire life, the irony of which is hilarious to me considering the accusations he made. (Classic zoob projection syndrome.)

    I also know some people in Provo that know his extended family and have hung out with him a few times since his playing days ended; BBQs, Sunday dinners, etc. They said he's easily the most arrogant prick they've ever met and that he was completely unapologetic for his behavior.

    All of that said, a part of me feels sorry for the guy. I know he got sent home early from his LDS mission for prescription drug addiction and it sounds like he's still struggling with substance abuse. I don't find his arrest particularly funny and I'm having difficulty feeling schadenfreude about it. I sincerely hope he gets his life together.

    In my experience, the cornerstone of personal growth is humility, which is something Max has struggled with mightily both during and after college. The cognitive dissonance he lives with every day must be killing him. Hopefully he figures things out and is able to move on with his life. Unfortunately, narcissists rarely do.

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    Rough day so far for the Utes.

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-30 12:10:29

    Players confirmed to have been cut:

    Tevita Stevens
    Joe Kruger
    Karl Williams
    Jake Murphy
    Anthony Denham
    Tevita Finau

    Hopefully that will be all.

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    It's time to play a game I like to call "Guess The Zoob"!

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-29 17:04:01

    BYU will be without 7 starters for tonight's game against UCONN. Two players will be sitting out due to injury and five players are suspended for honor code violations.

    The objective: guess which two zoobies will be taking it easy on the couch, checking tinder all weekend and which five zoobies will be busy administering stitches to some Provostani snitches? With 21 possible combinations, you have a discouragingly improbable 4.76% chance of guessing correctly.


    Good luck!


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    Have I mentioned lately how nice it is to finally be rid of that worthless excuse for a sports journalist, Lya?

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-16 19:02:55

    The Trib has really been stepping up their game compared to the lazy Utah hater they used to have covering the Utes. Piper and Goon put together a nice video from the scrimmage today.

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    I was doing a quick search for an article that does a good job breaking down the recent NCAA changes, and I came across this gem:

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-08 14:04:11

    U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) issued a statement Thursday saying the NCAA's new model may warrant Congressional review from the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he is a member.

    “The NCAA should be responsible for promoting fair competition among its participating institutions and their student athletes,” Hatch said. “I am concerned that today's actions could create an uneven playing field that may prevent some institutions from being able to compete fairly with other schools that have superior resources to pay for student athletes. I also worry about how this decision will affect a school's Title IX requirements and whether this consolidation of power will restrict competition and warrant antitrust scrutiny.”
    http://www.cbssports.com/colleg efootball/writer/jon-solomon/24651709/nca a -adopts-new-division-i-model-giving-power - 5-autonomy

    It is no coincidence that Hatch is the senator most upset by the changes. It is even less of a coincidence that Hatch specifically brought up "concerns" about Title IX requirements under any potential changes. It sounds like the Provo mafia has already gone hat in hand to Mr. Hatch and explained their Title IX-WCC predicament.

    Does anybody really think Hatch is worried about SUU when he says "some institutions" will be unfairly placed on an uneven playing field? We all know exactly which institution he's worried about. Of course, by acting in BYU's best interest he's acting against the University of Utah's best interest, which is extremely unethical considering he's a Utah senator and BYU is a private religious institution. Hatch's primary allegiance clearly isn't the state of Utah, but rather the LDS church.

    In the end, it's all political theatre; public masturbation. In the coming years, BYU is going to find it extremely difficult just to tread water. Unless they are able to strong-arm the entire WCC into giving them what they want, I predict that it won't be very long after the changes before BYU joins whichever G5 conference ends up approving the most P5 legislation. Staying in the WCC would put their athlete benefits behind schools like New Mexico and Tulane, which will be completely unacceptable to all of the zoobs that think BYU is super important. At least in the AAC they'll be able to offer some of the things P5 schools will be able to.

    BYU is a slug and the lid just got unscrewed from the salt shaker.

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    Now we have jealous zoob state senators trolling our media day tweets.

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-23 13:02:00



    http://twitter.com/gopTODD/status/4920139 23546046464

    What in the name of Weddle is wrong with these crybaby fuckwits? This is how our state senators carry themselves? Scary thought - this mouth breather is one of the members of the gerrymandered zoob caliphate in charge of approving the U's budget.

    There is nothing I'd like to see more than the upcoming contract with MiP to be cancelled and never resumed. Utah State is the only local school we should give the time of day.

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    The college football playoff financials for the 2014 season have been released.

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-16 15:08:56

    (See USA Today's breakdown here.)

    The payouts are as follows:

    $50M per conference for the P5

    $15M per conference for the G5

    Each conference gets an additional $6M per team that makes the four team playoff and $4M per team that makes a playoff bowl in a non-playoff year. (Playoff designated bowls are the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, Fiesta, and Peach.)

    Teams that make the 4 team playoff receive $2M each for expenses for the semifinal and an additional $2M each for expenses if they make the final.

    The Rose and Sugar bowls will be used for the playoffs once every three years. During the off years, each bowl will pay approx. $40M per conference to the PAC-12 and B1G (Rose) and the SEC and Big 12 (Sugar). The ACC has a contract with the Orange Bowl that will pay them approx. $27.5M per year during off years. These payouts are in addition to the $50M per conference baseline payout.

    Notre Dame, while not part of a conference, will receive a baseline payout $2.3M per year, plus the standard payouts related to any playoff bowl games they happen to make.

    All other independents will make $307,552.67 each.

    Each conference will receive an additional $300K per year for each team that meets the NCAA's minimum APR for bowl eligibility.

    I took a couple of minutes to break the numbers down per team. I did not include the payouts for making the playoffs or one of the other playoff designated bowls because there is no way to know what teams from what conferences will make the playoffs or the other big bowl games. I did not include the payouts for APR because there is no way to know which teams will fail to meet the minimum. Also, it is unclear if independents will receive the APR payout. At this time, it appears that only conferences are eligible to receive APR payouts, which would be yet another kick in the balls for independents.

    Big 12 - $7.67M per team
    PAC-12 - $6.39M per team
    B1G & SEC - $5.48M per team
    ACC - $4.88M per team
    Notre Dame - $2.3M
    AAC & Sun Belt - $1.36M per team
    MWC - $1.25M per team
    CUSA & MAC - $1.15M per team
    Independents - $307,552.67 per team

    (If you are so inclined, you can see a the spreadsheet here - http://i.imgur.com/be9w4n7.png)

    Keep in mind that these figures are only for money related to the playoffs and the six designated playoff bowls. Payouts for each conference from other bowl games will be business as usual. Obviously the participants are going to be almost exclusively P5 schools, which will add up to quite a lot of additional money for P5 schools on top of the numbers above. The G5 conferences are only guaranteed one participant per season in one of the 6 playoff approved bowls, which will almost certainly mean a $4M payout and a trip to the Fiesta or Peach.

    These figures are for the 2014 season only and are expected to increase a good deal year over year. Also not included is money from merchandising and sponsorships, which is estimated to be as much as $40M-$50M per season. That money would be distributed unevenly as part of the base payouts.

    When all is said and done, in the first year alone I would not be surprised to see the PAC-12 distribute more than $10M per team in 2014 playoff money. This is obviously a BIG deal. The BCS was paying the PAC-12 anywhere from $17M to $27M per year to be split 12 ways, so the new format is truly a windfall for P5 schools.

    BYU is expected to get paid the least playoff money of any school in the country - just $307,552.67 total. Unfortunately, since they are not a member of a G5 conference, they are not eligible to take the one guaranteed G5 spot in one of the 6 big bowls, which would come with $4M payday. They could always get selected as an at-large over a highly ranked P5 team for one of the 4 non-playoff bowls, but the odds of that are extremely small; even if BYU managed to go 11-1.

    The only way BYU can guarantee themselves additional money is finishing in the top 4 of the playoff commission's end of season rankings and forcing their way into one of the $6M bowls. Beyond pulling off that miracle, they could quadruple their payout and gain access to the guaranteed G5 bowl slot if they admitted the mistake of going independent and joined the MWC or American. Pride comes with a price.

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    Silver lining: the U now officially approves and endorses singing "We drink our stein of lager and we smoke our big cigars".

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-02 13:40:19

    “When printed officially by the university, this 2014 version of the fight song will be used, but historical renditions of the song will always be acceptable,” Pershing said. “We encourage you to sing — loudly and with pride — whichever version resonates with you.”

    I've always sung the original 1904 lyrics, but it's nice to hear that the U now officially endorses those lyrics, even if they caved to pressure from teetotalers a few decades ago and caved to pressure from a couple dozen PC crusaders a few hours ago. Maybe the day will come where tradition becomes important again, prompting a change of the lyrics back to how they were intended to be sung when Utah Man was the team drinking song.

    All of this talk about "Utah Man" got me wondering - is the U the only major university that has an official drinking song that doubles as our fight song?

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    The two scandals themselves cannot be compared in *ANY* way on *ANY* level, but the general reaction from the zoobs has been eerily similar to the reaction of Penn State fans.

    by TheBaron
    2014-05-22 13:47:06

    Clueless denial; outrage directed towards the messengers rather than the cause of the scandal; shifting blame for the program's failures away from those responsible; aggressive scapegoating; cries for people that know the truth to keep their mouths shut and stonewall the investigation; shaming and/or threatening anybody with the courage to speak out; engaging in a mass campaign of spin and propaganda to cast doubt about the veracity of the claims and the character of the accusers...

    I can't say that I'm surprised, but it is sad to see, nonetheless. Fans can act pretty crazy when the school/team they love is under fire. Of course, it doesn't help when the fan base in question is filled with morons that place their leaders on disturbingly high and entirely undeserved pedestals like Penn State fans did with Joe Paterno and BYU fans do with literally everything in any way related to BYU. How can a person possibly reason with True Believer™ Stripling Warrior zoobs that have no boundaries between football and their religious beliefs?

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    Wooooow. Miller STILL hasn't pulled his starters.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 14:37:18

    At this point it's hard to call that anything other than a giant "fuck you, you fucking fucks" directed at Krystko and Utah. What a douche.

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    Nick Johnson always plays out of his mind against Utah. Ugh.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 13:35:36

    I know he's just a good player in general, but dude has looked amazing against us for 3 years now.

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    This is the most biased officiating against Utah we've seen all season.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-05 23:00:23

    Somebody please tell me I'm being irrational and talk me off the ledge.

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    This is exactly what UCLA did at home against USC and Colorado.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-15 16:20:11

    Sleep walk through the first half - making the game look competitive - and then absolutely destroy both of them in a spectacular fashion in the second half.

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    A lot of people are going to have to walk back dumb things they said when they assumed the Texas Tech fan used a racial slur to incite Marcus Smart to assault him.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-09 17:11:31

    The video below provided by Texas Tech clearly proves that all the fan said to Marcus was "You piece of crap." A 3 game suspension is EXTREMELY light, in my opinion. I think Smart should have been suspended for the remainder of the season. You simply CANNOT lay your hands on a fan for calling you a piece of crap, period.

    Now, if it had turned out that the guy really did come at Smart with racial slurs like some were claiming (in spite of having zero evidence at the time), I'd have been all for giving Smart a one game token suspension, praising him for showing restraint, revoking the fan's season tickets, and banning him from the arena. Assaulting a fan for saying "you piece of crap" should be a year ending incident. That is inexcusable and then some.

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    The officiating has been surprisingly decent all season, but for some reason the last two games now have been called comically lopsided against Utah.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-01 13:44:09

    If I didn't know any better, I'd think the conference is concerned about Utah having a negative effect on tournament seedings. This is getting worse than the Arizona game.

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    If it wasn't for Jahii Carson being a bad ass, this would be quite the blowout.

    by TheBaron
    2014-01-23 20:00:15

    Dude has some misses, but he's pretty much the only reason ASU is hanging tough. His defense has been even more impressive than his offense. Dude has skills.

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    Courtesy of a masochistic UCLA fan:

    by TheBaron
    2014-01-18 23:29:44

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/7mxxx72 20fskx4c/BB.2014.01.18_Utah_1st_Half.avi

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/zzwwu7p izey59ac/BB.2014.01.18_Utah_2nd_Half.avi

    I gave it a quick once over and it looks like the bruin did a pretty good job on the rip/encode. Audio isn't perfect, but seems to improve as the game goes on. Video quality is solid for a second-rate Fox Sports 1 production. Commercials have been removed. The ending is happy. Get it while you can.

    FYI - if you download the video it looks and sounds a lot higher quality than if you watch it in your browser.

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    The NY Times just published an article on the PAC-12, facilities, and money. It includes references to Utah and a couple of quotes from Chris Hill.

    by TheBaron
    2013-11-30 00:40:03

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/30/sports/ ncaafootball/television-revenue-fuels-a-c o nstruction-boom-in-the-pac-12.html

    It also includes a somewhat interactive infographic that is worth checking out:

    http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2013/ 11/30/football-conferences/?ref=ncaafootb a ll

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    Another season, another quarterback catastrophe.

    by TheBaron
    2013-11-18 12:43:49

    Are there really schools that complete an entire season without an unmitigated disaster at the most important and critical position on the field? Teams that have the luxury of starting the same QB all season? What is Utah batting in that department since Alex left? .111? I haven't done any research, but I'd be absolutely shocked if that isn't dead last in the entire country over that time period.

    The last 2 seasons the same QB started every game, Utah is 25-0 with two BCS trophies. The last 2 seasons of the QB carousel, Utah is 9-13 (4-12 in PAC-12 games.) Will we ever see a talented and healthy QB play an entire season for Utah again? Logic says 'of course', but the heart says 'not anytime soon.'

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    Glass half full perspective:
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    "You" isn't a personal attack; it's a pronoun.
    (1 day ago, -1 stars)

    "Personal attacks"?! Am I in the twilight zone? Am I being punked?
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    Are you being intentionally obtuse? I know you are smarter than this.
    (1 day ago, 1 stars)

    No, I didn't think that at all.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    So now I am sensitive because I pointed out the holes in your logic? WTF are you talking about?
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    Do you seriously believe that age is a significant part of why Andy is such a great kicker?
    (1 day ago, 3 stars)

    When is this myth going to die?
    (1 day ago, 5 stars)

    I turned the game on before the Oregon/Cal game gets going and I've already seen BYU commit THREE 15 yard personal foul penalties and six total penalties. It's only the first quarter.
    (2 days ago, 1 stars)

    Not that it's news, but Derik Stevenson is the definition of a zoob in every way. Derick honestly lives in a completely different reality than the rest of us.
    (2 days ago, 42 stars)

    If someone offered to lay down $100 of their own money on a betting ticket for me, I'd dispassionately pick USC as well.
    (7 days ago, 14 stars)

    I'd change that to BMC5H - Bronco Mendenhall Converted 5 Hookers.
    (7 days ago, 6 stars)

    That sounds an awful lot like the SEC West, which gets - and I swear to Jehovah I don't believe I'm exaggerating whatsoever - mother #%!@ing INFINITY more press than the PAC-12 South!
    (7 days ago, 3 stars)

    Langi shouldn't have lied when he transferred to the zoo.
    (7 days ago, 7 stars)

    Are you sure about that?
    (8 days ago, 0 stars)

    Nobody wrote anything about winning the division, so I'm not sure why you felt compelled to make that point. All I said was that it's good for Utah when south division teams lose to north division teams. That is an indisputable fact.
    (8 days ago, 1 stars)

    Too bad. This is a game where Utah could really use a Stanford win.
    (8 days ago, 3 stars)

    You probably said the same thing last season after the Stanford win.
    (8 days ago, 6 stars)

    Reason #73 that Utah deserves to win tonight -
    (10 days ago, 3 stars)

    People are selling tickets for like $4.
    (10 days ago, 0 stars)

    Except Fox has not given up their rights and is still airing it. Considering how much they are paying the PAC-12 for it, I don't blame them.
    (11 days ago, 5 stars)

    I agree completely. Whether Jameis is guilty or innocent, FSU looks about as corrupt and self-serving as a Utah politician.
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    So you aren't allowed to watch the DVD on your own device? Do they even let you handle it?
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    There is A LOT more to the story than some people seem to think there is.
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    Do you think they would they be mad if someone took a laptop and a large external hard drive to the library, ripped entire seasons of games, took the files home and compressed them, and then made them available via the magic of the internet?
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    The mortality rate isn't nearly as important as the advertising jockeys pretending to be news anchors are selling it as.
    (12 days ago, 5 stars)

    If the Utes beat Oregon State I'll feel good about their chances of winning 7 pre-bowl. 8 would make me a VERY happy man.
    (14 days ago, 6 stars)

    If the Utes do manage to lose in Corvallis, it could be the start of a 6 game losing streak.
    (14 days ago, 4 stars)

    They also had the benefit of Arkansas REALLY REALLY #%!@ing themselves all game long.
    (15 days ago, 1 stars)

    Woah! What happened? When I last checked State was up more than two TDs and driving. Now it's a one TD game, just like that.
    (15 days ago, 1 stars)

    On a related note, #2 Auburn is getting absolutely eviscerated by Mississippi State right now.
    (15 days ago, 2 stars)

    Why? Oregon is an extremely elite team that had to play Arizona with a combination of walk-ons and true freshmen on the o-line.
    (15 days ago, 10 stars)

    Whit said the exact same thing during his Tuesday coach's show. Unfortunately, he didn't realize it until he went back and watched the game film.
    (16 days ago, 5 stars)

    You'll apologize if you know what's good for you.
    (17 days ago, 9 stars)

    In related news and a surprise to absolutely no one, the injured BYU player's backup came in an immediately lowered his head to spear while tackling UCF's TE,
    (17 days ago, 6 stars)

    That's literally the logic ESPN and the rest of the east coast media uses - the PAC-12's losses came against PAC-12 teams while the SEC's losses came against SEC teams.
    (18 days ago, 7 stars)

    That's what you get for listening to a clown pretending to be a football expert.
    (18 days ago, 6 stars)

    The Chargers played in LA for only the inaugural AFL season, after which Baron Hilton immediately moved them to San Diego.
    (19 days ago, 0 stars)

    It had better be the Rams.
    (19 days ago, 2 stars)

    You are correct about the sack at the goaline. It definitely wasn't a safety and the refs made the right call on that play.
    (19 days ago, 2 stars)

    And the UCLA players intentionally ripping off Kendal's and then Devontae's helmets without getting flagged for the 15 yards,
    (19 days ago, 9 stars)

    I believe there was a genuine referee conspiracy against Utah, which is something I've never believed before in my life, regardless of the teams involved.
    (19 days ago, 11 stars)

    I hadn't thought about that angle and I'm extremely confident that you are right.
    (21 days ago, 1 stars)

    I have watched thousands - literally THOUSANDS - of NFL and college football games.
    (21 days ago, 17 stars)

    At the very least it should have been a 15 yarder. UCLA getting away with blatant calls and benefitting from ticky tack calls.
    (22 days ago, 0 stars)

    I've watched this movie so many times.
    (22 days ago, 3 stars)

    So when Jim Mora Jr said he's definitely going to kick to Clay, what he really meant is that he's scared $#!+less and will do everything possible to prevent return attempts tonight.
    (22 days ago, 5 stars)

    You have no idea how hard I laughed at that.
    (22 days ago, 2 stars)

    My god. That's enough booze to kill a gorilla! I hope he was just proxy buying for the LDS judges.
    (22 days ago, 2 stars)

    I'm as sober as a judge, but I doubt that lasts past the coin toss.
    (22 days ago, 2 stars)

    I'm officially into my mid-season loss cycle.
    (22 days ago, 6 stars)

    If a tattoo of a giant vagina giving birth to a pimply football doesn't answer your question, I have failed.
    (22 days ago, 10 stars)

    It's the zoob that thought it would be a good idea to get this tattoo:
    (22 days ago, 3 stars)

    Making money and maximizing the money one makes are two completely different things.
    (22 days ago, 2 stars)

    Such fine young men they have representing their faith.
    (22 days ago, 6 stars)

    Mississippi State's best non-SEC win was by 13 points at home against UAB.
    (22 days ago, 2 stars)

    It blows my mind that a major network still puts up with a church running one of their affiliates in a borderline top 30 market.
    (22 days ago, 3 stars)

    Classic game thread over on Shaggy Bevo. (One of Texas' most active message boards.)
    (22 days ago, 6 stars)

    I was going to bust out the High West Double Rye, but then I told myself "No, Baron. Save it for UCLA. This is a VO kind of night."
    (22 days ago, 4 stars)

    B-b-but, but - Taysom jumped over the limp body of a bad Texas team's 3rd string safety after the guy fell down for no reason!
    (22 days ago, 16 stars)

    In reality, BYU was never a top 50 team.
    (22 days ago, 14 stars)

    RE: Or that USU had their backup QB in since the start of the game.
    (23 days ago, 7 stars)

    Incorrect that BYU is finding out *tonight* that it's a real bitch when your starting QB goes down and you don't have a qualified backup.
    (23 days ago, 1 stars)

    I wouldn't be so sure about BYU against Alabama State. BYU is getting blown out at home by a team that lost their last game to Arkansas State.
    (23 days ago, 3 stars)

    You are incorrect in this case. BYU was losing by two touchdowns before their backup QB butchered his first drive.
    (23 days ago, 14 stars)

    Agreed. He was Bronco's top cheap shot artist. I think he currently leads the FBS in personal foul penalties and I'm not joking whatsoever.
    (23 days ago, 7 stars)

    Just kidding. BYU's defense is a complete joke this year. I should have seen that coming.
    (23 days ago, 5 stars)

    The Aggies have blown more games over the last cople of years than Washington State.
    (23 days ago, 3 stars)

    According to the east coast, the Confederacy, and the PAC-12 haters in Utah county, this just proves that the PAC-12 is overrated rather than deep.
    (23 days ago, 4 stars)

    Chuckie is the lone exception to the rule that BYU head hunts opposing QBs with the intent to injure.
    (25 days ago, 4 stars)

    "TCU has fared a little better in the B12"? Um... No. Worse both seasons, actually.
    (26 days ago, 7 stars)

    As flawed as Mitt is, he would be a massive, gigantic, humongous, immense, enormous, colossal upgrade over Mike Lee and I would welcome that exchange with enthusiasm.
    (26 days ago, 15 stars)

    I agree that Hatfield is the best CB on the depth chart. The best CB on the roster went out for the season with an ACL tear in fall camp.
    (26 days ago, 4 stars)

    Six wins is not and never was the goal. Six wins is the bare minimum floor. It was the threshold that was set for Kyle to keep his job and he was informed of that in no uncertain terms during the off-season.
    (27 days ago, 7 stars)

    To me, 0-12 is no worse than 5-7, so there is zero risk in firing Kyle. I understand that some people disagree and that is their prerogative.
    (28 days ago, 6 stars)

    No longer drunk. Still can't believe Utah found a way to lose to Wazzu, at home, after being immediately spotted 14 points by the D and special teams.
    (28 days ago, 18 stars)

    When your defense gets a pick six and your special teams gets a touchdown return, if you lose on the road in Tuscaloosa you have some serious questions that need to be asked about the heart of your players and the competency of your coaching staff.
    (29 days ago, 5 stars)

    I know I'm understating it significantly, but a zoob running ethnic diversity smack is like a Nazi running anti-semitism smack.
    (29 days ago, 1 stars)

    I withdraw my point RE: Gardner vs. Morris. Michigan doesn't have a QB that could crack the 3 deep at Utah.
    (29 days ago, 2 stars)

    Like I posted below, Gardner is significantly better than Morris and Hoke is an incompetent buffoon for starting a bad backup QB when Gardner was perfectly healthy.
    (29 days ago, 1 stars)

    As soon as I turned the game on and they said Michigan is starting "Sugar Shane" Morris, I thought it was a huge mistake.
    (29 days ago, 0 stars)

    Only in Provo.
    (31 days ago, 17 stars)

    I will be shocked if Washington beats Stanford.
    (32 days ago, 7 stars)

    Again - I'm not complaining; just sharing my perspective.
    (33 days ago, 2 stars)

    I think the final one is bad form and not at all funny.
    (33 days ago, 5 stars)

    You aren't kidding!
    (33 days ago, 6 stars)

    According to the refs you are wrong. The play was whistled dead long before the third push happened. The refs hit them with a personal foul penalty that killed the drive.
    (33 days ago, 14 stars)

    The zoobs don't play dirty. Bronco says this is just "fanatical effort" and playing "on the edge", both of which he encourages.
    (33 days ago, 26 stars)

    I know you sacrifice your personal time to do these and we owe you a thousand 'thank yous' for it.
    (34 days ago, 5 stars)

    And we have some fans that actually wish we would have played these out of control, head hunting dip$#!+s instead of Michigan.
    (34 days ago, 51 stars)

    Just like discussing what you would do if you won the power ball jackpot, it is an utterly harmless discussion and an utter waste of time.
    (34 days ago, 0 stars)

    Ask again when there is more than a 0.0001% chance of it mattering.
    (34 days ago, 3 stars)

    That's embarrassing. Wilner is the worst voter in AP history.
    (35 days ago, 3 stars)

    He's not a Michigan fan.
    (35 days ago, 6 stars)

    It's not fair or balanced by any means, but it's Michigan. I don't like it, it's partisan, it's bad announcing, but the list of schools that would be treated as Michigan's equal is very short.
    (36 days ago, 0 stars)

    While it bothered me too, you have to remember that Michigan is easily a top 5 all-time program, arguably more storied and important than Alabama.
    (36 days ago, 0 stars)

    That is retard level "marketing". Red sticks out like nothing else. You wear read in all but one situation - when the other team's fans wear red. THEN you say "wear white".
    (36 days ago, 3 stars)

    QBs should dive for two things:
    (36 days ago, 0 stars)

    Because after all of the drama with the Ute naming rights over the last few years, this is who Ute fans should totally rip off:
    (36 days ago, 1 stars)

    On Thompson throwing a touchdown pass...
    (37 days ago, 4 stars)

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