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    Wooooow. Miller STILL hasn't pulled his starters.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 14:37:18

    At this point it's hard to call that anything other than a giant "fuck you, you fucking fucks" directed at Krystko and Utah. What a douche.

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    Nick Johnson always plays out of his mind against Utah. Ugh.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 13:35:36

    I know he's just a good player in general, but dude has looked amazing against us for 3 years now.

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    This is the most biased officiating against Utah we've seen all season.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-05 23:00:23

    Somebody please tell me I'm being irrational and talk me off the ledge.

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    This is exactly what UCLA did at home against USC and Colorado.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-15 16:20:11

    Sleep walk through the first half - making the game look competitive - and then absolutely destroy both of them in a spectacular fashion in the second half.

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    A lot of people are going to have to walk back dumb things they said when they assumed the Texas Tech fan used a racial slur to incite Marcus Smart to assault him.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-09 17:11:31

    The video below provided by Texas Tech clearly proves that all the fan said to Marcus was "You piece of crap." A 3 game suspension is EXTREMELY light, in my opinion. I think Smart should have been suspended for the remainder of the season. You simply CANNOT lay your hands on a fan for calling you a piece of crap, period.

    Now, if it had turned out that the guy really did come at Smart with racial slurs like some were claiming (in spite of having zero evidence at the time), I'd have been all for giving Smart a one game token suspension, praising him for showing restraint, revoking the fan's season tickets, and banning him from the arena. Assaulting a fan for saying "you piece of crap" should be a year ending incident. That is inexcusable and then some.

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    The officiating has been surprisingly decent all season, but for some reason the last two games now have been called comically lopsided against Utah.

    by TheBaron
    2014-02-01 13:44:09

    If I didn't know any better, I'd think the conference is concerned about Utah having a negative effect on tournament seedings. This is getting worse than the Arizona game.

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    If it wasn't for Jahii Carson being a bad ass, this would be quite the blowout.

    by TheBaron
    2014-01-23 20:00:15

    Dude has some misses, but he's pretty much the only reason ASU is hanging tough. His defense has been even more impressive than his offense. Dude has skills.

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    Courtesy of a masochistic UCLA fan:

    by TheBaron
    2014-01-18 23:29:44 20fskx4c/BB.2014.01.18_Utah_1st_Half.avi izey59ac/BB.2014.01.18_Utah_2nd_Half.avi

    I gave it a quick once over and it looks like the bruin did a pretty good job on the rip/encode. Audio isn't perfect, but seems to improve as the game goes on. Video quality is solid for a second-rate Fox Sports 1 production. Commercials have been removed. The ending is happy. Get it while you can.

    FYI - if you download the video it looks and sounds a lot higher quality than if you watch it in your browser.

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    The NY Times just published an article on the PAC-12, facilities, and money. It includes references to Utah and a couple of quotes from Chris Hill.

    by TheBaron
    2013-11-30 00:40:03 ncaafootball/television-revenue-fuels-a-c o nstruction-boom-in-the-pac-12.html

    It also includes a somewhat interactive infographic that is worth checking out: 11/30/football-conferences/?ref=ncaafootb a ll

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    Another season, another quarterback catastrophe.

    by TheBaron
    2013-11-18 12:43:49

    Are there really schools that complete an entire season without an unmitigated disaster at the most important and critical position on the field? Teams that have the luxury of starting the same QB all season? What is Utah batting in that department since Alex left? .111? I haven't done any research, but I'd be absolutely shocked if that isn't dead last in the entire country over that time period.

    The last 2 seasons the same QB started every game, Utah is 25-0 with two BCS trophies. The last 2 seasons of the QB carousel, Utah is 9-13 (4-12 in PAC-12 games.) Will we ever see a talented and healthy QB play an entire season for Utah again? Logic says 'of course', but the heart says 'not anytime soon.'

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    You can't make this $#!+ up.

    by TheBaron
    2013-10-18 18:25:36

    So I've had a couple of people, including a smug Arizona grad, send me that silly article about Utah having a massive age advantage because Utah is bursting at the seams with returned LDS missionaries (just 9 total out of 85 ) and while I was eating lunch today I decided to do a little data gathering.

    I went through this week's depth chart for both Utah and Arizona and then looked up the age of each player. I put their ages into excel and calculated the average. Here are the results:

    So after the Utah-hating BYU fan reporter for the Arizona Daily Star perverts and massages the data to tell a lie that Utah is so loaded with 24 and 25 year old returned missionaries that it's practically criminal, it turns out that Arizona actually has a small age advantage over Utah on both sides of the ball.

    Dude took a small age advantage for Arizona and sold it as a massive, unfair, pseudo-cheating age domination for Utah. In interviews given both in Tucson and Salt Lake City, Rich Rod has been doing his best to sell the same lie. He mentioned the age of Utah players and called them "old guys" 4 times in his weekly press conference. He repeated the same lines in interviews with the local media in Utah. He's made jokes about Utah players being similar in age to a 40 year old Tedy Bruschi. All I see is a douche premeditatively building in an excuse for a loss tomorrow. I hope the Utes are all too happy to oblige.

    Utah's depth chart for Arizona
    Utah's roster
    Arizona's depth chart for Utah
    Arizona's Roster

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    I am sorry for the zoob-related post, but I need a favor.

    by TheBaron
    2013-10-15 18:20:10

    Does anybody have the picture of all of the red-clad Utah fans filling in the 'U' in 'BYU' in the seats at LES after the 54-10 blow out? I thought I had saved it, but apparently not. Thanks in advance.

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    Wait, wait, wait. Let me get this straight.

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-26 13:21:06

    So we are supposed to believe that Hadley has been close friends with Jacob Stocking since he was a kid. We are supposed to believe that the two of them are so close that Stocking has lavished tens of thousands of dollars upon Hadley, taking multiple trips to Las Vegas (that we know about) and god only knows what else and to what degree; staying in penthouse suites; partying it up in the VIP section of extremely expensive clubs; drinking a $7,000 - $10,000 order of Dom P; holding up signs spelling "Spence" even though Jacob is the one footing the bill for all of it; etc.

    Taking all of that into consideration, we are also supposed to believe that in spite of Hadley and Stocking being so close that Stocking paid for all of that and likely a lot more, Stocking never paid $50 for a ticket to see his close friend play a football game. The most important thing in Hadley's life is football, but Stocking never bothered to attend a single event and support such a dear, dear friend. Not even once.

    Really? I'm supposed to believe that? It sounds like a load of bullshit to me. It sounds like Hadley might have committed some major NCAA violations and now BYU's minions, such as Benedict, are trying to cover it up and distance BYU from Stocking.

    I'm sorry, but when you are such close friends with somebody that you are willing to lavish them with tens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts, you cough up a couple twenties to attend the most important thing in their life and what has defined everything about them for many years. "...never attended"? Not even once? I don't buy it. I don't know what parts are being left out, changed, exaggerated, or downplayed, but as it's being sold, BYU's and Hadley's story doesn't come close to passing the smell test.

    Excerpt from Benedict's press release:

    All the alleged NCAA violations, Hadley said, were baseless. BYU verified that by checking out so-called booster Jacob Stocking. His name appeared in no BYU athletics databases. Turns out he's a family friend of Hadley. The family said that Stocking has never attended a BYU football game, much less supported the program financially.

    But claims that Hadley had partied with his friend in Vegas were true. He had gone to clubs and on more than one occasion and consumed alcohol. The photo had been taken over the summer. The most recent trip to Vegas had happened during BYU's bye week following its victory over Texas.

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    Suck it, zoobs!

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-23 12:33:58

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    I tuned on BYUtv for literally two minutes. This is what I heard, verbatim, before I turned it off:

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-22 01:01:21

    "For some reason BYU's offense just couldn't put up points. There's no explanation."

    "clearly this was a game that BYU should have won."

    You can't make this shit up. Go Utes! Fuck BYU!

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    Just a reminder in case anybody missed it -

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-20 11:07:49

    ***Evidence that "Darren Lucy" is a Utah fan***

    --In an email to Utah's compliance office he went out of his way to conspicuously and unnecessarily refer to himself as a "die hard Utah Utes fan".

    --Absolutely nothing else.

    **Evidence that "Darren Lucy" is a BYU fan***

    --Before sending any emails to anybody, "Darren Lucy" goes onto cougarboard under the username "dlucy44" and makes a post with his accusations against Hadley before anybody else could possibly know what he was about to do. He doesn't make a post on any Utah message boards.

    --In this cougarboard post, "dlucy44" refers to BYU's fan base as "we"; refers to Holmoe as "our AD"; refers to Hadley as "one of our linebackers" and "one of our senior LB's". Does that sound like a "die hard Utah Utes fan"?

    --Darren could have just as easily emailed BYU's compliance department and tipped off KSL or the Deseret News, but instead he contacts the school and the newspaper that zoobs like to call "anti-Mormon". (Because everything that isn't pro-Mormon is somehow anti-Mormon by default, right?) This guy seems concerned that BYU and its minions will sweep things under the rug or at least delay taking action.

    --In the email to Utah's compliance office, Darren went out of his way to conspicuously and unnecessarily refer to himself as a "die hard Utah Utes fan", in spite of doing the exact opposite in the post he made on cougarboard. Sounds like he was going for the "2 for 1" - hurt Hadley and make Ute fans take the fall for it.

    --A cougarboard poster with a track record for honesty makes a post claiming the guy who reported Hadley is actually a BYU fan and that he did it out of jealousy over a girl Hadley is involved with.

    --The accusations in dlucy44's cougarboard post and in the email include a ton of major accusations that the provided photo cannot prove. To someone who's primary concern is ensuring that Hadley gets suspended for the Utah game, including a bunch of false information that can't be proven would risk weakening the case and possibly even discredit the source. To someone that hates Hadley personally and wants to hurt Hadley specifically and as deeply as possible, they'd want to make as many negative accusations about Hadley as they can; drag his name through as much mud as they can conjure, evidence be damned.
    ----------------------------------------- ----------

    So all of that and we are supposed to believe the accuser is a "die hard Utah Utes fan" simply because he ham-fistedly wrote he was in an email he sent after he outed himself on cougarboard as a BYU fan? This shit is getting out of control.

    I suggest NOT reading the nasty things the zoobs have been posting on cougarboard. It's getting really, really ugly over there, including threats of violence and other things against Utah's compliance officer, brainstorming ways they can get her fired for doing her job, cyberstalking her, wishing all kinds of creative "pay back" upon Utah fans, etc.

    The "baptism" video faux-controversy turned out to be a load of bullshit, but that didn't stop them for condemning all of our fans and players as anti-Mormon bigots. They've found a Twitter photo of Utah's compliance officer that **has been confirmed to have been photoshopped by an LDS compliance officer at another school**, but they are calling her anti-Mormon, wishing cervical cancer on her, saying they'd like to drop an air conditioner on her, and a ton of other terrible things.

    This "Darren Lucy" guy is an admitted BYU fan that has been confirmed by other BYU sources to be a BYU fan that has it out for Hadley over a girl, but that hasn't stopped them from condemning all Utah fans as "snitches" (the irony!) and wishing all manner of harm upon the whole of us.

    I don't even know what to say anymore at this point. Someone should compile it all and send it to Chris Hill and Tom Holmoe. The hate in this rivalry seems to come about 90% from the zoobs and gets blamed 90% on us. I am sick of being made out to be a bad person and a bigot and less than because I am not LDS. I am sick of having to constantly remind myself that a fan base that is 99.9% LDS, goes out of its way to bring religion into everything, and proudly defines themselves as a "missionary tool" is not representative of most LDS people or the LDS church. I am sick of watching them do everything in their power to increase anti-LDS sentiment and then crying bigotry if anybody dares to react to their hatemongering.

    I would love to see Utah move on before one of these assholes decides follow through on their endless stream of threats. The LDS church should consider how many non-LDS people BYU's fan base manages to alienate and strongly consider shutting down BYU athletics.

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    Some interesting stats that raise an interesting question -

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-19 15:03:51

    A lot has been made of ESPN's new total QBR. They claim it is the most accurate measure of a QBs skill and value ever; far more accurate than the QB rating system that's been around for many years. I went to ESPN to take a look at how Wilson stacks up, but while I was there I noticed something that got me thinking.

    #1 and #2 in both "pass EPA" and "total EPA" are none other than Sean Mannion and Chuckie Keeton. If this statistic is to be believed, Utah has played what are essentially the two best QBs in the country through the first 25% of the season.

    This discovery raises an obvious question - has Utah's secondary looked bad because they had to start the year going up against the two best QBs they will face all season - two of the very best QBs in all of college football - or did a crappy Utah secondary make an overrated Mannion and Keeton look all-world?

    If you believe that Mannion and Keeton really are all that, Utah could still have a solid defense and a quality season. If you believe Mannion and Keeton are not nearly as good as they've looked to date, Utah could be in for a very long year of getting torched by most teams for the remainder of the season.

    Which is it? Are Mannion and Keeton going to be two of the top QBs in the country this year, or is Utah's secondary a dumpster fire that will keep us out of a bowl game?

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    Now that cougarboard has gone apoplectic over the video they claim was attacking their faith, I'm going to post the truth about it.

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-18 01:18:02

    College football teams are a lot larger than many people realize. With walk-ons included, there are well over 100 players on a team and just as one would expect, the players form various groups, cliques, and fraternities with each other. For example, at Utah the linebackers have been calling themselves "the KONGO" for years. You typically have to be a linebacker to be a "member" and they've done all kinds of different things as rituals or membership rites over the years. They've even made custom t-shirts on multiple occasions.

    A number of the of players at the U that have been using LGI and FINAO a lot lately. FINAO = Failure Is Not An Option. LGI = Let's Get It. They are nothing more than motivational catchphrases that they've adopted as a credo of sorts.

    The video, which I saw about a week ago and a zoob graciously captured and posted here for the purposes of shaming us, had the caption of "baptized in the name of LGI". They were simply messing around in the hot and cold tubs and told Blechen they were going to baptize him in the name of LGI. You'll notice the players in the video keep throwing up an "L", which is meant to represent "LGI". The video was posted on August 23rd; before the football season even started. It has nothing to do with rivalry week or mocking LDS people. (As if baptism is somehow unique to the LDS religion anyway.)

    As you can see by watching it in context, the video has nothing to do with the LDS religion or any religion, really. Unfortunately, the zoobies are dumb, more naive than a 4 year old, and have a raging persecution complex. They look to manufacture offense and for reasons to be outraged at every opportunity. They are using this video as a cudgel to bait LDS Ute fans (they call them 'ALUFs' to distinguish them from superior LDS members, i.e. BYU fans) into denouncing their team and alumni as anti-LDS and to prop up the comically untrue claims of zoobs that Utes are constantly attacking and persecuting LDS religious beliefs.

    They are religion-bating hatemongers with the most nefarious of intentions that should never, ever, EVER be trusted or listened to. They are the ones that constantly focus on the LDS vs. non-LDS aspect of the rivalry and they constantly use religion as a wedge to divide the Ute fan base. How many times will people fall for their petty lies and distortions before they learn their lesson?

    Football isn't supposed to be about religion. Going to college isn't supposed to be about religion. As long as we keep playing BYU, the zoobs will do everything in their power to make everything about religion. Shit like this manufactured video "controversy" are exhibit A for why Utah needs to move on from this toxic relationship.

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    A comment about BYU's Utah/Boise State BOGO offer that Ute2004 posted:

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-17 16:50:52 SEGetEventList?groupCode=TT&linkID=byu

    This is actually an attempt to sell out the Utah game while intentionally discouraging Ute fans from buying tickets.

    BYU vastly overestimated the size and commitment of their fan base when they decided to sell endzone seats to Texas and Utah for $90/ea. They also were looking to thoroughly gouge the thousands of Texas and Utah fans they expected to attend each game. Normally these $90 tickets sell to BYU fans for $110 per season. Not surprisingly, it backfired. In spite of selling thousands of seats to visiting Texas and Utah fans, BYU fans were not willing to spend $90 a seat to pick up the remaining slack.

    With Texas, this resulted in BYU dropping the price down to $60/seat for the final week in order to stimulate sales. It worked decently, but there were still a couple of thousand seats that went empty for that game. Embarrassingly, they failed to sell out an extremely rare visit from a then-ranked Texas, even at the reasonable price of $60/seat.

    Not surprisingly, BYU's fans that were too cheap to pay $90 for Texas are also too cheap to pay $90 for Utah, leaving once again thousands of empty seats. Instead of lowering the price to $60 and risking a sea of red after the remaining tickets are snatched up by Utah fans, BYU went with the Chargers model to discourage opposing fans from buying tickets.

    The Chargers used to have a problem with Raiders fans buying up all of the non-season tickets for the annual Chargers-Raiders match, turning the stadium into a sea of black and silver. The solution was to force anybody buying a single game ticket to the Raiders game to also buy tickets to two other games, making it inconvenient and expensive for those pesky Raiders fans to swarm on San Diego. Unfortunately, a lot of Chargers fans are fairly fickle and end up dumping their Raiders ticket on the secondary market, thereby allowing Raiders fans to gobble them up.

    Apparently BYU is trying to do the same thing to Utah fans. Lucky for them, Provo is not San Diego. Unlike Raiders fans that love taking a trip to San Diego, a large percentage of Utah fans have no desire to go to a game at the zoo. What this will do - mark my words - is result in a couple of thousand more Boise State fans than originally expected, because those BSU tickets are going to hit the secondary market hard, driving down the price. It must suck to be Tom Holmoe and realize even your best home schedule in school history isn't enough to get your "fans" to open their wallets.

    And yes - considering Utah tickets were being sold for $90 each until today, offering a Utah/BSU package for $90 total absolutely qualifies as a BOGO. It is pretty sad that BYU couldn't sell out the Utah and Boise state games without a BOGO offer. For any masochists that don't mind going to a game in Provo, I suggest taking advantage of the BOGO offer and then going out of your way to sell your BSU tickets specifically to Boise State fans.

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    The most depressing part about tonight is that I fully expect Utah to work the zoobies over next week, but it won't mean jack $#!+ and I won't give half a f@ck while I'm watching it happen.

    by TheBaron
    2013-09-15 01:10:00

    Utah is now 0-1 in conference play with the murderer's row of UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, USC, ASU, and Oregon coming up, in that exact order. Utah can blow out BYU and still be disqualified from making a bowl game before we ever see the likes of WSU or Colorado. ¡Jesucristo! The SEC ain't got shit on our SOS.

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    The hardest part of the BYU/Virginia game to wrap my mind around is that Hill was sh!ttier than a diaper laundry service and yet somehow he was the better QB in that game.

    by TheBaron
    2013-08-31 21:17:43

    Hill is easily one of the worst QB's I can remember watching after logging somewhere in the thousands of college football games viewed. The odds of BYU having a QB as stunningly shitty as Hill are very long in a vacuum. But to open the season against the one FBS opponent that somehow has an even worse QB than Hill... and LOSE... What are the odds? What are the odds?

    Hill is probably not the single worst QB I've ever seen. The Virginia QB was fairly close to the single worst QB I've ever seen, but even he might not be the single worst. That said, the two of them combined are without question the worst starting QB combo I've ever seen. It was breathtaking to watch; mostly because I was laughing too hard to catch my breath.

    BYU's secondary is an even weaker position for them than QB and they were fortunate enough to open up against the team least capable of exploiting that weakness... and lost anyway. I will be damn impressed if the zoobs manage to win any games of note this season. They might need two or three Chad Bunn miracles if they intend to go bowling this season.

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    I know I probably should have figured this out ages ago, but it hit me at the gym today that the whole BYU scheduling rift might really be more of a misunderstanding than a rift.

    by TheBaron
    2013-07-09 18:13:27

    Is it possible that both sides of the argument are fighting against a straw man? The "pro" crowd is assuming that the "anti" crowd doesn't want Utah to ever schedule another game with BYU for any reason and the "anti" crowd is assuming that the "pro" crowd wants to play BYU every year always and forever, no matter what, even if it means we pass on H/H opportunities like Michigan.

    What I realized is that both of those groups of people might actually be fairly small. I don't know a lot of people that want to never play BYU again for any reason, just like I haven't met anybody in person that thinks scheduling the BYU game should be Utah's #1 OOC priority every single season in perpetuity.

    How many Utes really fall into these absolutist categories that both sides keep arguing against? How much of the "anti" crowd consists of people that want to see the BYU game continue, but on a de-emphasized basis, and how much of the "pro" crowd are afraid of the BYU game being canceled forever, but don't mind the Michigan series and similar agreements displacing BYU off and on?

    For example, I have been defending the anti viewpoint, but that doesn't mean I want Utah to abandon the series forever. I simply prefer to see BYU as a small piece of the OOC puzzle instead of the focal point. I LOVE the two year break to play Michigan and hope we do it more often. I actually want to see the Holy War continue, but in a reduced capacity; something along the lines of 2 out of every 4 years or 2 out of every 6. On the other hand, if Utah didn't schedule BYU for an entire decade I might push our AD to schedule a home and home. I don't know very many people on the anti side that truly want to see the game disappear forever; just de-emphasized with frequent breaks.

    I've gotten the impression that the "pro" crowd wants to see the game played every year no matter what, variety and opportunities be damned. It feels like the "pro" crowd sees BYU as the cornerstone of Utah's identity, which is both vile and provincial. If a fan is more concerned about playing BYU than they are about expanding the focus and reach of Utah football, they need the upcoming break worst of all.

    Could it be that many people in the "pro" crowd actually agree with my 2 out of every 4 years with alternative series (ex. Michigan) philosophy, but are fighting back against what they see as the specter of canceling the Holy War forever? Could it be that both sides have misunderstood each others' arguments and are fighting over nothing? Could it be that I'm part of some mushy middle minority and most Utes really do want to either ALWAYS play BYU or NEVER play BYU? Could it be that the mushy middle is actually the majority? What say ye?

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    Sometimes I wish I had a few zoob friends or family members so I could take them to the cleaners making various Utah and BYU related bets every year.

    by TheBaron
    2013-07-03 20:08:38

    During the last election cycle Nate Silver helped me make some money off of a (former) reader I know, but it pales in comparison to what I could make off of a zoobie or two. Easy money is the best kind.

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    An object lesson in scale.

    by TheBaron
    2013-05-20 21:13:31

    Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) is an extremely large human being, all things considered. In his own words, "I'm a 6'4" 260lb man."

    Keep those numbers in mind and check out this photo - 419500290048/photo/1

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    In other news, Brad Stevens is the best coach in college basketball and it's hardly debatable at this point.

    by TheBaron
    2013-01-20 00:14:02

    A FAR worse basketball school, with far worse resources, accomplishing DOUBLE what Majerus did, but taking only four breathtaking years as a HC to do it. Now, in only his 6th year, Butler has beaten THREE top 10 teams so far this season after losing star player after star player from their NCAA championship game teams and replacing them with somewhat decent, but most certainly nothing special on paper recruiting classes.

    He has coached three wins over top 10 teams this year, a feat only Coach K at Duke has equaled, but he's doing it with 1/1,000,000th of the recruiting and financial resources of Duke/Kentucky/NC/etc. The more you think about it, the more impossible it sounds. He has a real chance to end up being the best coach college basketball has ever seen. His career thus far is without precedent by the most comically gargantuan of margins.

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    Zoobville is abuzz with claims that Kyle Van Noy is coming back for next season.

    by TheBaron
    2012-12-31 09:28:59

    This would come as a huge surprise because I know for a fact he has been telling certain teammates for months that he's going to declare for the draft after this season. This would be a last minute complete 180 and a major, major coup for Bronco. Why Van Noy would spend two seconds listening to Bronco's advice about how to get to and excel in the NFL is beyond me.

    Personally, I think it would be a mistake for him to come back for his senior year. He is not going to develop - skill-wise or physically - any further by staying at BYU. He has already maxed out what that staff can do for him. Of course, there is always the risk of a major injury that comes with another full year of workouts, practices, and games. For Star, the risk to reward ratio was worth it and playing another season at Utah is going to end up making him millions of dollars more than he would have made had he came out last season. I just don't see things playing out like that for Van Noy, considering BYU's NFL track record.

    Sure, he wasn't going to get drafted in the first two rounds if he declared for this year's draft, but he definitely would have been drafted and he would have gotten a fair shot at making it. Instead, if the zoobie rumors are to be believed, he's going to spend next season getting his ass kicked and end his career without a bowl game. (Cue some wise ass saying that is how Star's senior season went, forgetting that Utah was supposed to be a serious contender this season and BYU is expected to have a tough go of it in 2013.)

    Regardless, the guy just makes plays and has a knack for those plays being game changers. He has put that team on his back and personally won multiple games for BYU over the last two seasons. I would rather him not come back because he is an NFL talent and I don't want to see the zoobs helped by holding on to what little NFL talent they have.

    This feels like a hail marry for Bronco to keep things respectable next season, considering it will be the toughest SOS in BYU history (by a mile) and they lose a massive number of players this off-season. With Hill's knee getting blown out and BYU's QB related offensive struggles, I can't help but wonder if Tanner Mangum is going to suddenly get talked into "serving a mission" by playing quarterback at BYU, like so many before him. It will be interesting to watch what Bronco is able to pull off if he's really got both Hoffman and Van Noy turning down the NFL for next season's trail of tears.

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    You're welcome.

    by TheBaron
    2012-12-09 00:02:02

    Thank you notes will be accepted via boardmail.

    Texas_Ute_Fan - consider this partial repayment for the hundreds of deep cuts you've posted. Keep them coming and I dare you to beat this.

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    Wow. BYU's Matt Carlino from the 3 point line:

    by TheBaron
    2012-12-08 19:28:16

    Before tonight - 3 for 23
    Tonight - 3 for 3

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    Jon Hunstman:

    by TheBaron
    2012-12-01 19:28:37

    RIP Coach Majerus. A great friend and the Godfather of our daughter Gracie. I will miss our midnight runs to Crown Burger.

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    It's crazy to think that Texas A&M and Mississippi State can both go 9-3 in the vaunted SEC, yet not have a single quality win to share between them.

    by TheBaron
    2012-11-03 11:26:15

    The whole "week in, week out" argument for SEC strength of schedule is a joke. Texas A&M's best win is a 2 point last second squeaker over a WAC team. Mississippi State's best win is over a Sun Belt team. The SEC in the middle and the bottom is so laughably overrated that teams can get away with scheduling four automatic OOC wins against pillow soft cupcakes and go to a bowl game as long as they can beat Kentucky and Auburn. Manage to beat Mississippi, Tennessee, and Arkansas and you can claim to have had a special season without having a single decent win.

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    Is this TIC?
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    If he had the majority on his side rather than a tiny percentage of students that couldn't sing Utah man with a gun to their head,
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    That wasn't done because they thought it was a legitimate emergency issue.
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    By your logic, Nebraska made a mistake by expanding their stadium in 2013 for like the 10th time or whatever it was.
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    Turn on PAC-12 Mountain if you want just Utah.
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    "Fairest" shouldn't even be in the song.
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    Politicians are not held accountable nearly enough, both in frequency and degree.
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    Are you seriously asking me to prove a negative? That's not how accusations work. The accuser has to prove guilt, which your post and all investigations to date have failed to do.
    (9 days ago, 7 stars)

    Considering it was proven bogus the first time the far right accused the Obama administration of using the IRS politically,
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    I agree with you 100%. That's not money spent on charitable work; it's money spent on the founder's and/or director's and/or donor's political agenda. It's self-interest rather than legitimate charity.
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    If you seriously believe that, it might be time to take a break from talk radio and Fox News and get some fresh air.
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    Why do you lie so much? You didn't look up jack $#!+.
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    The funniest part about it is that a zoob hand selected that specific photo to demonstrate the U's lack of diversity, but there are still more than 10 non-white students in it.
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    I'm surprised they made it to April before blowing their load.
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    I'm not sure if you meant it to, but this part came across a little condescending:
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    I have zero faith that Wisconsin will beat ashley judd.
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    Do you really want to see an all-SEC championship game? Yuck!
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    Meh. I'll save my worries for when the rumors involve a program with stature and resources on or at least near the level of ashley judd, UNC, or Duke.
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    You're either a terrible comedian or just plain evil.
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    BYU offers a minor in African studies, but nothing at all for African American studies, which is a different thing entirely.
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    I somewhat agree with your points about this specific situation with U of A fans.
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    You don't think the manner in which police choose to respond to a situation can escalate it unnecessarily?
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    It has nothing to do with you specifically and I apologize if it came across that way.
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    RE: As that 'one person who's expectations....' you are referring to in your post let me clarify.
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    Not my mouth; that's the point. Nobody gives a $#!+ about what comes out of my mouth or most of the mouths on utefans.
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    I have it on good authority that you are wrong about back to back to back 5-7 seasons being acceptable.
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    So you're saying you want a coach that is capable of getting Utah to the Rose Bowl and you don't think Kyle is capable. Do I have that right?
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    Great post. I agree with everything you wrote.
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    Obviously there is nuance, reason, and caveats behind these that I'm not discussing per your request, but these are my hard and dirty ranges:
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    You will find the same issues every fall at every other sold out stadium in the country.
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    That is the risk one takes when one chooses to attend a sporting event in 99.9% of America, where people have the freedom to consume alcohol as long as they don't commit any crimes.
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    I don't care about what happens to Wichita as long as they blow out ashley judd.
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    Oregon advancing is another NCAA share for the PAC-12 conference and NCAA shares are distributed equally.
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    Don't click this link unless you are somewhere you can audibly gasp without anybody judging you.
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    And Satan sounds like an admirable guy - owns a lot of property, leader of men, oozes power, stands up for what he believes in no matter the consequences...
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    I wouldn't bet $1 on Utah to beat SUU on the road, but I'd quickly bet $100 that we lead the country in blown double digit second half leads.
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    This team is a #%!@ing joke.
    (36 days ago, 3 stars)

    Tebow concurs.
    (36 days ago, 3 stars)

    To be honest, I think her manufactured rise within the Utah GOP has been driven by race to some degree.
    (37 days ago, 21 stars)

    When Max Hall turned out to be the worst NFL quarterback of all time my schadenfreude was specifically directed at Max Hall himself.
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    In reality, the team that wins the NIT is almost never anywhere close to 69th best.
    (38 days ago, 6 stars)

    Still trolling Utes after all these years, huh? How did you manage to get off of my ignore list? New account?
    (38 days ago, 2 stars)

    If you switched out our two weakest OOC opponents and BSU for road losses against Kansas, SDSU, and Wisconsin, there is a legitimate chance we'd have gotten in. The logic behind at large selections can be straight up silly sometimes.
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    Wrong category, dip$#!+.
    (41 days ago, 7 stars)

    Arizona has a slightly better history than Utah and a ton of their dumbass fans think they are an asshair away from being ashley judd, but other than the uneducated segment of their fan base I don't have any issues with Arizona.
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    I disagree about today's result meaning we need to worry about the Utes. Right now Arizona is playing on another level beyond anything I've seen a team play in years.
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    I wouldn't care. I just think he left them in for WAAAAAAAY too long.
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    Because he's risking an injury to a starter for no gain whatsoever when AZ has a very real shot at winning a national championship.
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    Wooooow. Miller STILL hasn't pulled his starters.
    (41 days ago, 1 stars)

    People on here are being way too negative about the Utes.
    (41 days ago, 3 stars)

    If you think Utah is the problem today, I think you have it exactly wrong.
    (41 days ago, 3 stars)

    Nick Johnson always plays out of his mind against Utah. Ugh.
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    Believe it or not, I think football had something to do with Rick's/Utah's media issues.
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    I said some fairly angry things when I realized that not only is Walton not there, we are stuck with Ernie Kent.
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    I strongly disagree. Not only would Wilcox start, playing on Utah would make him look even better.
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    If I'm Colorado, I'm straight up demanding they rewrite the tie-breaker rules in the off-season, at the very least.
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    I hope you know that I wasn't trying to call out your post.
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    That is interesting and confusing. It appears the PAC-12 has discovered a way to invent the most convoluted method possible to apply their horribly written tie-breaking rules.
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    [Edit: This is wrong. Read the follow-up posts.] I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you did the tie breakers wrong. Had they beat Stanford, Utah would have been the #4 seed.
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    And Cal wins.
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    Do we really want Colorado to win?
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    My mistake then. That is a fair argument.
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    How do you think players on other teams don't $#!+ themselves and travel/turn it over/get a shot clock violation/chuck up an air ball/etc. in those situations?
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    We have a few misguided, but well-intentioned fans that believe being honest about the coaching staff's failure at the end of games means you are saying we have a bad coaching staff.
    (46 days ago, 6 stars)

    There is a very strong argument we are the worst in the entire country in end of game situations. Ken Pom's luck metric agrees.
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    Between allowing 1,000,000 offensive rebounds and turning the ball over every other possession, this game has been quite the embarrassment.
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    I blue star these posts because I think pseudo-trolls are pointless and not particularly funny, so I want to minimize the ability for the pseudo-troll account to post multiple times.
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    It's a huge insult that anyone would even ask that question.
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    That would be a big mistake, according to several NBA scouts.
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    This is the most biased officiating against Utah we've seen all season.
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    I was thinking they should code it with an optional setting to automatically pause in between each paragraph, where the user simply presses the space bar to move on to the next paragraph.
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    This is a game changer for slow, methodical readers.
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    BYU has never been to a final four?! Au contraire!
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    That is the type of $#!+ people burn in hell for.
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    RE: Why do you keep posting about this?
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    If Utah sweeps Cal and Stanford this week, I imagine the tone of a lot of so-called "bracketologists" will change pretty quickly.
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    This is the correct answer.
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    This is the first post you made in this thread that I agree with.
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    I would love to read your reaction if some police officers killed one of your family members.
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    In case you haven't figured it out yet, BYU fans live in that rare space where a raging inferiority complex intersects with a superiority complex that is without equal.
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    My ineligibility for membership at Deseret First Credit Union keeps me up at night.
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    Sorry if my post was offensive.
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    So was your first post arguing that the call could have gone either way or were you just pointing out that you're not surprised the refs called it wrong because they've been calling charge/blocks inconsistently all season?
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    I'm not the one that blue-starred you, but your claims are fantasy.
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    It's very likely that your uber-zoob hypothesis is correct.
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    Not in 2014. Have you been paying attention to the gigantic changes in the way refs are required to call blocking vs. charging this season?
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    I understand where her heart is (trying to do what she was taught is right in all situations, no matter the consequences)
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    "If [I] really want to know"? I asked, didn't I?
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    I'm confused.
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    That has to be hyperbole or spin on your part.
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    There is a lot of insight in this post.
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    This is exactly what UCLA did at home against USC and Colorado.
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    That video is good, but this one is hard to believe:
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    Attitudes like yours are a significant contributor to the high levels of violence in the United States relative to other developed nations.
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    When you are legitimately threatened I will support your right to protect yourself. When someone calls you a piece of crap, I hope you have the maturity not to assault them.
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    Dinosaurs will die.
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    I couldn't agree with you more. While not all impaired driving carries the same risk, it's always a bad idea to drive impaired and it puts all other drivers at increased risk without their consent.
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    The funny part about your point is that it is the only thing the study's data potentially demonstrates - the percentage of American's with a driver's license that have used marijuana recent enough to test positive for its metabolites.
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    Other than the drug war having no demonstrable effect at reducing drug abuse rates, costing tens of billions of our tax dollars to wage,
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