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    As I type this, Coach Krystko is discussing basketball recruiting in an hour long forum at the Hinkley Institute of Politics.

    by TheBaron
    2015-09-16 12:08:48

    The U is streaming it live on periscope. Click the link below to watch.

    https://www.periscope.tv/w/aMmljjkwODE4Nz h8MVBsS1FSYnJSbFpHRRusRY0hKhe0Q5vBjcoo2t4 g -zYyDCfoFJ6JKli6zuAF

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    If you consider all positions to be of equal value (obviously, they are not), Norris is probably the best player on the team.

    by TheBaron
    2015-09-11 20:35:53

    This game is turning into one of the most costly in a long time, and on top of that we are playing slow, dumb, and timid. WTF is going on?

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    We look terrible.

    by TheBaron
    2015-09-11 19:56:11

    Thankfully there are still 3 quarters to turn that around.

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    The ratings are in for the opening week of CFB.

    by TheBaron
    2015-09-08 12:31:18

    In spite of Utah/Michigan being on FS1 and BYU-P/Nebraska being a national broadcast on ABC with no competing split or mirror game, UU/UM still outdrew NU/BY. One game was an all-time record for its network while the other game drew less than half of the ratings drawn by the same time slot last year. The "national fan base" must have been napping.

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/09/c ollege-football-ratings-espn-fs1-michigan- utah-overnights/

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015/09/c ollege-football-ratings-abc-byu-nebraska-e spn-tamu-asu-nascar-xfinity-nbc/

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    I like Utah football.

    by TheBaron
    2015-08-07 16:52:32

    I like rewatching last season's games as the new season approaches. I like breaking down all of the plays in slo-mo and critiquing various aspects as I see fit.

    If you like to watch Utah football, utahman3431 has created a torrent archive of dozens and dozens of games, including every single game since we joined the PAC-12.

    Visit http://uofu.bobsonlineworld.net/
    and use password: utevids

    Send utahman3431 flowers (but not through ProFlowers.com) and a nice card to let him know how much Utes everywhere appreciate him. If flowers aren't your thing, there is a donate button at the top of the page where you can donate via Paypal.

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    An unexpected update for anybody that remembers my breakdown of the rules surrounding full cost of attendance stipends and how BYU-Provo is beholden to the WCC due to Title IX:

    by TheBaron
    2015-06-11 14:02:31

    I think this is my original post on the subject if anybody doesn't know what I'm talking about -

    http://www.utefans.net/message.php?id=163 5317#message1635317

    Everything I wrote that wasn't a prediction was and still is 100% accurate. BYU-P is totally and completely beholden to the WCC when it comes to adopting P5 measures with Title IX implications, which most definitely includes COA stipends.

    I recently had a chance conversation with a WCC AD, so naturally I took the opportunity to talk to him about COA stipends and the WCC's plan. Unfortunately, he told me the WCC voted a couple of months ago to allow member schools to pay COA stipends at their discretion as long as Title IX requirements are followed. (After which BYU-P promptly did that whole "$4,500/yr" PR blitz.) His school doesn't have the budget to simply pay all athletes in all sports, so he's planning on paying COA stipends only to men's basketball and to the equivalent number of women athletes in order to comply with Title IX.

    He said they are "very much aware" that BYU-Provo plans on paying all athletes in all sports and he agrees that it will give BYU-Provo additional competitive advantages in any sport that schools in the WCC decide not to match, but he said that ultimately he and the other ADs decided they'd rather have BYU-Provo gain an advantage in some minor non-revenue sports than block all COA stipends and let "the entire country" get an additional advantage over the WCC in men's basketball. Essentially, the silly idea of keeping WCC men's basketball "competitive" with the P5 sealed the deal for BYU-Provo being permitted by the WCC to pay COA stipends across the board.

    Some WCC schools are planning on paying COA stipends to a lot more than just basketball, but some are going bare bones, which will keep costs extremely low. (Just 13 men's basketball players and 13 equivalent women's scholarships = 26 x stipend amount.) All WCC schools are planning on paying COA stipends to at least men's basketball and the Title IX equivalent.

    I have to say that he seemed frustrated when I brought up BYU-Provo and their many "advantages" over the rest of the WCC, but he did what you'd expect an AD to do and claimed he has "some exciting plans" to keep his department competitive. I got the impression that BYU-P frustrates the WCC ADs, but ultimately the WCC benefits enough to make their smug entitlement worth it for the time being.

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    PSA of the day:

    by TheBaron
    2015-05-20 12:49:41

    I've seen multiple posts today about the BYU fraudsters (redundant) that refer to their alma maters as "BYU and BYU-I" or "BYU and BYU-Idaho". In the future, I suggest calling them "BYU-P and BYU-I" or "BYU-Provo and BYU-Idaho". I recently discovered that referring to The Zoo as BYU-P or BYU-Provo drives nearly all zoobs absolutely bonkers, like you made a sexually explicit comment about a messy three way with their wife and mother.

    I am going to make an effort to start adding "P" or "Provo" to the end of BYU every time I type it and I suggest that all able-bodied Utes do the same. It just feels like the right thing to do. We wouldn't want any confusion about which location of BYU the person attended, seeing how BYU-Idaho and BYU-Hawaii are equal partners in the BYU university system.

    As far as I can tell, it drives zoobs nuts because going to BYU-P is about feeling "better" than everybody else; especially the plebeian LDS that "couldn't get in" at BYU-Provo like God's chosen did and therefore are forever second class for going to BYU-I or any other university. Calling it BYU-Provo implies some level of equality with BYU-Idaho and BYU-Hawaii, and nobody goes to BYU-Provo to feel equal, gosh darnit.

    Going to BYU-P is about the LDS community knowing that you are special; you are chosen; you made it through the absurdly inflated admissions requirements and received an average undergraduate education at the world's largest and heaviest chaperoned 4 year speed dating event, where every participant has been pre-screened to ensure that they share your religion, your recessive genetics, and your enmity for independent thought.

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    All of the cougarbored links posted today inspired me to read a few threads and drink some cougar tears.

    by TheBaron
    2015-05-06 21:19:41

    After browsing for awhile, it's clear that none of them understand how the new full cost of attendance stipends work. They clearly think that every athlete in the country currently gets the same amount of money and these stipends are basically "extra", so a larger stipend equals a larger monthly check than schools with a lower stipend amount.

    They are crowing that they will "pay" athletes $3,000/yr "more" than USC. ($4,500/yr full COA stipend at BYU vs. $1,500/yr full COA stipend at USC.) What they don't seem to understand is that after full COA stipends go into effect, USC athletes will still get quite a bit more cash every month than BYU athletes, largely due to the cost of living gap between Los Angeles and Provo.

    BYU will be adding $4,500/yr to the amount that athletes currently get paid at BYU and USC will be adding $1,500/yr to the amount that athletes currently get paid at USC. When you add $1,500/yr to USC's current scholarship amount, USC athletes will still get a significantly larger check each month than what BYU will athletes will receive after adding $4,500/yr to what BYU athletes currently get paid.

    They need to think of it like this - a zoob makes $15/hr and is getting a $4.50/hr raise. The office jerk makes $25/hr and is getting a $1.50/hr raise. The zoob's raise is significantly larger than the office jerk's, but the jerk is still going to make quite a bit more money than the zoob after the raises go into effect.

    I thought BYU's accounting program is supposed to be elite. How are they all so confused by fairly simple math involving fairly simple numbers?

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    Uh oh. Utah's new basketball commit is light skinned with cornrows.

    by TheBaron
    2015-05-06 14:08:58

    Expect two more years of zoobs making "totally not racist" Brittney Griner jokes about players that don't look like Brittney Griner. They can differentiate between 124 different shades of blonde hair and 82 gradient levels of alabaster skin opacity, but light skinned + braids or cornrows = Brittney Griner.

    Enjoy this collage of athletes that look just like Brittney Griner according to BYU fans:

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    I should have known this months ago, but I didn't. One of my favorite skiers died in an avalanche in Chile back in September.

    by TheBaron
    2015-04-30 03:12:31

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    I can't be the only one that thought of this video while watching Ole Miss throw down hammer dunk after hammer dunk after alley-oop hammer dunk against the zoo last night:

    by TheBaron
    2015-03-18 13:52:31

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    The "Bull$#!+ Foul" disparity is now +12 Arizona. No, I'm not joking at all. I've been keeping track.

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-28 21:14:58

    Arizona has been called for two that were bullshit upon video review. Utah has been called for fourteen bullshit fouls. Seriously - fourteen. This is fucking done. Refs decided the game. I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT! %$#! #@^^ &%%# @%%# &*&% ^^&$ ^$%@ %^#$ !$%% #@%^ &%^# *%&$ &$%%!

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    Outscore Arizona by 2 points over 20 minutes inside the Huntsman Center to win a PAC-12 championship?

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-28 20:15:49

    Utah can do this. I'm taking the Utes in the second half.

    Moments like this are what it takes if Utah wants to win conference championships in a high major conference.

    Everything is in Utah's favor. No excuses. Not even these piss poor refs.

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    Refs for tonight: Bob Staffen, Larry Spaulding, and Dave Hall.

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-28 18:16:53

    Not sure how I feel about that.

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    PacHoops breaks down the Utes:

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-28 13:30:24

    http://pachoops.com/2015/02/everything-yo u-need-to-know-about-utah-whats-apl/

    PacHoops points out some things about the Utes that you probably already know, but also some things that you wouldn't expect. There are a couple things about the Utes that are strikingly unique among their highly ranked, defense first peers. Good read to get into the game day mood.

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    Well $#!+.

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-22 15:21:41

    My updated PAC-12 championship odds:

    Outright champions - 1%

    Shared championship - 40%

    2nd place - 59%

    Beat Oregon today and it's probably:

    Outright champions - 40%

    Shared championship - 55%

    2nd place - 5%

    They probably don't realize it right now, but the Utes gave something away today that they will likely remember for the rest of their lives.

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    $#!+ just got real. This isn't funny on any level anymore.

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-12 17:46:49

    According to a court affidavit filed for the arrest warrant, West, 18, is accused of sexually assaulting the complainant, a female, who had allegedly been summoned to the home by West through a website that solicits escort and other services, with the expectation that she would receive $160 for the call.

    The police report and court documents allege that West brandished a large silver kitchen knife in the garage after the pair moved from a bedroom because a family member had returned home. Court documents state that West placed the knife against the complainant's neck and demanded sexual favors, which she eventually performed after an attempt to defend herself with a "small dagger" she pulled from her boot was unsuccessful.

    (updated article)

    I have no idea how he's not being charged with solicitation or sexual assault/rape, but jesus lord this is bad. One has to imagine even BYU won't attempt to spin its way out of this one. I will be shocked if the kid ever suits up for the zoo. Terrible situation for all parties involved.

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    In a magical land of unicorn and rainbows, where all teams in college basketball play a nearly identical schedule, I believe Gonzaga would be a 4 or a 5 seed.

    by TheBaron
    2015-02-07 22:52:36

    Every season they win a one horse race in the WCC and ride it to an undeservedly high seed in the NCAAs. The #1 seed talk is completely ridiculous, yet I almost expect it to happen with the hype they are getting this deep into the season. I guess the prognosticators didn't learn their lesson the last time Gonzaga was anointed.

    I very badly want Utah to end up in Gonzaga's bracket. there is no greater seeding gift than being in the bracket that has a soft #1 seed. It would be unlikely that Utah would see anything higher than a #4 seed in the elite 8. I highly doubt Gonzaga makes it that far.

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    One positive from tonight:

    by TheBaron
    2015-01-29 22:05:15

    The team can finish out the rest of the season without the pressure of winning a conference championship. Utah can still do big things this year, but a PAC-12 championship almost certainly isn't one of them. When you're not even the best team in your own conference, there's no reason to read your press clippings and get a big head.

    Time for the team to accept how far they still have to go and get to work.

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    Krystko is a badass.

    by TheBaron
    2015-01-17 21:59:43

    http://espn700sports.com/wp-content/uploa ds/2015/01/Larry-Krystkowiak-Postgame-1-1 7 -15.mp3

    He's not necessarily seeing the cause of the loss any differently from the fans, but his demeanor about tonight's ass beating is as chill as an iceberg in January. His NBA experience, where last year's champion lost 27 games along the way and was still considered completely dominant all season, has taught him to take the causes behind the losses seriously while not sweating them or over-emphasizing what they mean.

    Krystko's got this. I believe we still have at least a 50/50 shot at the conference championship. Enjoy the ride.

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    My quick take:

    by TheBaron
    2015-01-17 19:34:48

    Arizona's basketball skills: Good, but nothing special. Maybe 3rd or 4th in the conference.
    Arizona's physicality: MMA level; absolutely elite. Arizona played out of control violent and the refs rewarded them for it again and again. Smart, smart, super smart game plan on their part.
    Arizona's mental toughness: Nationally elite
    Arizona's effort level: Extremely elite. Maybe the best in the entire NCAA. This is the #1 reason they will go impressively deep in the NCAA tournament with NIT basketball skills.
    Arizona's big game mojo: Unquestionably elite

    Utah's basketball skills: Almost elite, but not quite there.
    Utah's physicality: High against finesse teams, but wilts like spinach under high heat against teams that play like teeth kicking brawlers. See: Arizona and SDSU
    Utah's mental toughness: High, but nothing even close to Arizona's. Utah straight gave up during multiple stretches while Arizona maintained extreme focus during every second, from tip to buzzer.
    Utah's effort level: High, but nothing even close to Arizona's. This is the single most controllable metric in all of sports and Utah failed spectacularly tonight. This one is entirely on the coaches and players. Simply unacceptable in any game.
    Utah's big game mojo: Inconsistent. A lack of big game mojo can keep a final four quality team from even making the sweet sixteen. This ties back in to mental toughness and effort level.

    After watching every single Arizona game and every single Utah game this season, I believe Utah is, by a sizable margin, the more skilled team with better out of game coaching and would beat Arizona 8/10 times if all things were equal, but all things are not even close to equal.

    Arizona tried WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY harder tonight, which is embarrassing and simply unacceptable. Arizona played physically out of control - almost violent - daring the refs to call them out for it, while Utah played "within the rules" and got absolutely owned because of it. This is something I fully expected to happen and I am a basketball idiot compared to every single coach on Utah's staff. Utah should have been better prepared for it and responded more confidently, but they weren't and they didn't.

    Utah is going to have to make some fundamental changes, emphasis on the "mental" part, or Utah is going to lose to AZ in SLC, therefore losing the conference title, and lose to AZ in the conference tournament. Arizona played like bullies and Utah took a fist to the face like an unconfident nerd overwhelmed by the situation.

    I believe Utah has both the coaches and the talent to fix this and punch AZ's teeth out in SLC, but it isn't a foregone conclusion by any means. Utah has a lot to work on while AZ simply needs to stay the course. Call me delusional, but in spite of it all I have faith that Utah's staff and players will figure things out, beat AZ in SLC, and win the PAC-12.

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    I'm jealous of Boise State's football program because their coaches have always understood that offense is every bit as important as defense.

    by TheBaron
    2014-12-31 15:16:30

    I dare not dream of how awesome Utah football would be with a coach that both understands that undeniable truth and possesses the ability to walk the walk.

    Then again, maybe instead of dreaming one only needs to watch the Frogs to see what happens when a defensive guru steps out of his comfort zone, hires quality offensive staff, and tells them to score as many points as possible.

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    I am pleasantly surprised that the playoff committee admitted they made a mistake last week and dropped TCU from #3 to #6 after a blowout win.

    by TheBaron
    2014-12-07 14:39:10

    In spite of the incredible performance put on by OSU this weekend, I didn't think the committee would have the balls to do something so dramatic. Putting TCU behind Baylor after having them multiple places ahead of Baylor just days ago is a pretty big mea cupla. People with power, especially when acting in groups, almost never admit fault or change course so quickly.

    Relative to the AP Poll and the embarrassingly worthless Coaches Poll, I've been impressed with the playoff committee rankings from the first time they were released until the present. This is one situation where it's clearly better to put the power into fewer, more intelligent hands rather than a large collection of ignorant and extremely biased writers or coach's secretaries. The best part about the new format has been the rankings. They may not be perfect, but they have been a huge improvement.

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    So the Utes are playing a highly ranked team as one of the featured games of ESPN's tip-off marathon AND we get Bill Walton?!

    by TheBaron
    2014-11-18 12:21:31

    I feel like the Northwestern football players after they beat Notre Dame, but in this case Bill Walton is our Chick-fil-A. An already great day just got better.

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    Two things I expect to see in the ASU/Irish game today -

    by TheBaron
    2014-11-08 13:44:52

    1) I expect ASU's offense to look solid and productive, putting up a lot more points than they did against the Utes and validating the suffocating awesomeness that is the Utah defense.

    2) I expect Notre Dame to put up at least 250 passing yards, further demonstrating that Utah's struggles on offense are about the Utah's passing game being terrible and Travis being god awful at reading blitzes, rather than ASU having a stellar defense like some people thought last week.

    Maybe I'll be wrong about one or both of those predictions, but that is what I expect to see.

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    Is anybody surprised that the most conservative team in the country is from Utah and coached by a Mormon? :D

    by TheBaron
    2014-11-02 07:47:57

    In spite of his blind spots and areas of embarrassing, fireable incompetence, I love Whit and want to see him extended, but the guy makes me feel like some sort of masochistic pervert for watching the Utes struggle year after year to find a Sunbelt level offense. How many OCs and QBs can one man burn through before people accept that he's the sole cause of alll the offensive problems? There is no other explanation or excuse left. That much was clear like 3 OCs ago.

    As long as Whit is the coach we need to dial back our expectations and accept that Utah has to maintain a crazy elite, top 5 defense and crazy elite special teams just to be competitive in our losses. Utah is a mediocre QB and mediocre offensive play calling away from legitimately competing for the MNC. Most teams need a quality OC and quality QB play just to get bowl eligible, but mediocre would be enough to make Utah a perennial top 10 program.

    The day we have a top 50 QB is the day Utah becomes one of the big dogs. Silly me used to think finding a mediocre QB wasn't that difficult and it's just a matter of time. I'm finally starting to accept that we don't have a coach capable of identifying, recruiting, coaching, and supporting even a mediocre QB. I'm not smart enough to understand why, but Whit is what he is.

    I love the Utes and will be at the Oregon game, excited to watch our defense smother the best offense in the country and keep the loss respectable. It's a damn shame that half of the game will feel like getting a cucumber shoved up my urethra.

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    Not that it's news, but Derik Stevenson is the definition of a zoob in every way. Derick honestly lives in a completely different reality than the rest of us.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-24 14:39:16

    A reality where the world waits with baited breath for BYU to fart and then declares the aroma "big time". A reality where BYU is a national powerhouse that happens to be down a little bit at the moment, but otherwise would receive an invite from every major conference in the country - if only the university presidents weren't all a bunch of dirty anti-Mormons. Why is the world full of so many anti-Mormons hell bent on holding back BYU from it's rightful place next to, but slightly above Alabama?! Utah got invited to the PAC-12 over BYU? ANTI-MORMONS EVERYWHERE! UGGHHHHH!

    In Derik's reality, BYU beat an "average Texas team" and Utah beat "the worst Michigan team in decades", when both teams are currently sitting on a 3-4 record. Why does Derik call one 3-4 team "average" and the other "the worst in decades"? Oh yeah - BYU beat one of them while evil incarnate, Utah, beat the other. A good little zoobie makes sure to always spin and lie his ass off to cast God's one true university™ in the most flattering light possible, even if that means tearing down BYU's superiors in order to give the illusion of parity.

    Like most zoobs, he calls every quality team Utah beats "overrated" or "terrible" and every mediocre to awful team that BYU beats "underrated" or a couple of bounces away from being ranked. I've seen a different zoob claim that BYU's squeaker at home against a mediocre Virginia team is the best win of any team in the state this season; no joke. He claimed that OSU is "terrible" and UCLA is "bad" and "criminally overrated". Yet when BYU was 4-0 after barely sneaking by bad teams and beating down a 3-4 Texas team that played BYU without 11 of their starters, zoobs argued that BYU should have been top 10 and was a strong candidate for the playoffs.

    Derik calls out Bronco for his "arrogance", but then Derik takes personal credit for BYU's so-called "tradition", speaks as if glory and greatness are BYU's birthrights, and repeatedly calls Utah State a "glorified high school". Of course, he does these things while failing to see even a shred of irony. He doesn't see his own arrogance because he genuinely believes that BYU is a tradition rich power program being embarrassed by Bronco's failure to match BYU's prior glory.

    That is Derik's - and most zoobs - biggest problem. They honestly think BYU used to be big time. In truth, BYU was 2007 Hawaii, and, like Hawaii, they only did it ONE YEAR EVER. Unlike Hawaii, it happened 30 years ago. 30 years! Other than that, BYU's glory years weren't much different from what BYU is right now - a decent mid-major program that almost never played against teams with a pulse, usually lost - often in a blow out - whenever they did play a quality opponent, and spent most of the time racking up wins against terrible teams.

    The reason they went 19-2 against Utah during a 21 year stretch wasn't because BYU was a powerhouse; it was because Utah was at its all-time nadir and the Utes had a hard time beating even the aforementioned terrible teams that BYU was beating up on, let alone beating the pride of the WAC. Speaking of which...

    When your claim to fame is being the best team in the WAC for a couple of decades, after the two best teams in the WAC bolted for greener pastures, you don't have a claim to fame. You are nothing. In reality, BYU isn't at a low point right now - they are near their historical apex. Right now is about as good as BYU has ever been. In 1984, BYU didn't play a single team as good as 2014 USU or Nevada.

    The "greatness" of BYU under LaVell was about exploiting a novel and exotic offensive scheme to beat up on inferior competition and then crow about how they would totally beat the best of the best, if only they got a shot at them. BYU is college football's Uncle Rico. They are the original Boise State - beat up on terrible teams in the WAC after the WAC's best teams left for greener pastures. Both programs even got lucky on a couple of special QB recruits. The similarities are uncanny, except for Boise comes out looking about 100 times more impressive. If you compare their best wins and their overall records, BYU comes out looking like Boise-lite rather than vice versa.

    Zoobs think BYU is big time. The ignorant watching from afar think they are a has-been. The educated know that they are a never-was. Derik is a zoob, and hubris like his could complete BYU's regression to the mean, returning them to what they always were without LaVell or Bronco - a regional punching bag.

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    Reason #73 that Utah deserves to win tonight -

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-16 10:41:12

    OSU created a video hoping to convince OSU fans to "crank it like a chainsaw" whenever they play this terrible song during games, because... um... chainsaws cut wood and beavers chew wood? I'm not sure, but trying to inorganically manufacture a nerdy ass "official" dance move deserves to be punished by Orchard and friends. What kind of football team has its own dance move?

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    I have watched thousands - literally THOUSANDS - of NFL and college football games.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-05 00:17:29

    I watched Ed Hochuli fully steal a done deal win over Denver from San Diego that had major playoff implications on what is considered the worst call in NFL history. It was such bullshit that the rule books for both the NFL and college football have been changed exclusively because of it.

    I hate conspiracy theories and genuinely believe that 99.9% of them are bullshit. In all of those thousands of football games I have watched I have never once believed in such a thing as a legitimate, bonafide referee conspiracy... until tonight.

    There is zero question in my mind that the refs conspired to give that game to UCLA. Utah was the better team by 14-21 points tonight, but the refs made the game go down to the last play - TWICE!

    Even the announcers couldn't stop commenting on the number of "fortunate" calls UCLA got called in their favor and the number of "unfortunate" calls that UCLA should have been penalized heavily for, but weren't. There were so fucking many "unfortunate" calls and almost all of them were so comically egregious that I can no longer believe that while refs frequently blow calls (duh), it is not malicious or with the intent to effect the outcome of the game.

    Unless Utah just played the single unluckiest game of football I have ever witnessed, I believe the referees conspired to cheat that win in UCLA's favor. In spite of Utah overcoming the absurdity to secure the win over a top 10 team on the road, I am disillusioned and despondent right now.

    Like Vin Scully himself, I don't believe what I just saw. Tonight was utter bullshit for four fucking quarters and I want to see someone held accountable. Unfortunately, I know the chances of that are about 0.0001%.

    FUCK!!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the biggest wins ever and all I can see are all of the "missed" ridiculously obvious calls and all of the flagged completely bullshit calls that UCLA was gifted. It was seriously over 100 yards all told. Tonight was the worst screw job I have ever seen in all of my years obsessing over football and the Utes found a way to overcome it. I have no words for that part other than "wow."

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    I've watched this movie so many times.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 22:43:34

    SO GOD DAMN MANY TIMES. Please, sweet and merciful Jesus - let it end differently just this once. Outside of 2008 it always ends in heartbreak under Kyle. Can Utah EVER catch a break without finding a way to ruin it?

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    Sometimes I wonder what percentage of the one percent are rich purely because of nepotism and cronyism.
    (13 days ago, 3 stars)

    ^^^Definitely NOT Saban's daughter^^^
    (13 days ago, 3 stars)

    It was created by a Nebraska fan that goes by "huskermut" and posted on r/CFB. (Reddit)
    (14 days ago, 6 stars)

    RE: So what's this "Ute Tub" everyone keeps talking about?
    (16 days ago, 9 stars)

    I'm not sure about the first two, but the "boobs" version is self-explanatory.
    (20 days ago, 11 stars)

    I suspect he's not interested, and I respect that as the owner of UF.N he has no obligation to do it, but Monkey should seriously consider your proposal.
    (21 days ago, 29 stars)

    As I type this, Coach Krystko is discussing basketball recruiting in an hour long forum at the Hinkley Institute of Politics.
    (21 days ago, 5 stars)

    Who's talking about raising rates?
    (22 days ago, 2 stars)

    There is a HUGE difference between the highest potential marginal tax rate and the tax rate corporations actually pay after deductions, credits, etc.
    (22 days ago, 8 stars)

    I wish I would have noticed that before I spent 5 minutes staring at my phone like an orangutan trying to read a picture book.
    (22 days ago, 3 stars)

    For the love of God, please tell me the "Utes" side will be in the NEZ now that "Utah" is painted on the field house roof.
    (22 days ago, 3 stars)

    To be fair, it's a line that both zoobs and Bronco himself created and frequently boast about.
    (24 days ago, 6 stars)

    HOLY $#!+, really!?! BYU-P invented the time machine and beat 2006 & 2010 BSU?!? That's incredible!!!
    (25 days ago, 2 stars)

    Gay joke? Are you 13 or just low IQ?
    (25 days ago, 5 stars)

    You call it ridiculous. In Provo, they call it 10pm, any given Saturday.
    (25 days ago, 6 stars)

    Utah will turn this around and get the W, but your team is going to lose to a potato tomorrow. The next 24(ish) hours are going to be rough for you.
    (26 days ago, 2 stars)

    If you consider all positions to be of equal value (obviously, they are not), Norris is probably the best player on the team.
    (26 days ago, 2 stars)

    We look terrible.
    (26 days ago, 1 stars)

    This is true. Utahtickets.com just added some tickets available in the visitor's section for those that don't mind the smell of hay and manure.
    (27 days ago, 17 stars)

    (27 days ago, 2 stars)

    Now when they start playing each other, the winner can be handsomely rewarded for beating a "ranked team" while the loser can be minimally punished because they lost to a "ranked team".
    (29 days ago, 3 stars)

    The ratings are in for the opening week of CFB.
    (29 days ago, 19 stars)

    Michigan's D really impressed me. I wasn't a believer going into the game, but that D looked like they could be elite this season.
    (31 days ago, 5 stars)

    I'll just leave this here:
    (32 days ago, 1 stars)

    He'll sit Nacua, but will play their single dirtiest player, Koroma, who happens to be THE guy that started the entire brawl.
    (32 days ago, 12 stars)

    3K would be generous. Very generous.
    (34 days ago, 0 stars)

    The last few hours around every tailgate lot have seemed very standard. I'm guessing 5K at most tonight.
    (34 days ago, 0 stars)

    The Minnesota game is irrelevant. The B1G and the PAC-12 have separate media contracts.
    (35 days ago, 1 stars)

    If this game was on ESPN, they would have hyped the holy hell out of it and it would have had a real shot at setting the record for most watched Thursday opener of all time.
    (35 days ago, 2 stars)

    If it is anything remotely close to 1/4, it will blow my mind. That would be nearly 12K Michigan fans.
    (35 days ago, 3 stars)

    ****This just in! BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!****
    (35 days ago, 10 stars)

    Keep in mind that the Utah player was exonerated from the original case by surveillance video and has been found innocent in the 2nd case by a university investigation, yet still hasn't been approved to rejoin the team.
    (36 days ago, 24 stars)

    Sorry, but I don't believe you. I think you made at least some, if not all of that up.
    (36 days ago, 14 stars)

    That is some A+ smack. Every Ute should rip it off and use it liberally throughout the season.
    (37 days ago, 16 stars)

    RE: Michigan does have a very good OOC record and it kills them to have a losing record against a team like Utah.
    (39 days ago, 10 stars)

    Agreed. That's why proper contraception education, availability, and use is of such critical importance; it prevents bad/abusive/absentee parenting.
    (41 days ago, 3 stars)

    Are you trolling? Contraception is the definition of personal responsibility.
    (41 days ago, 3 stars)

    Darrin Paulo - arguably Harding's biggest recruiting win to date - is Poly.
    (44 days ago, 14 stars)

    Remember that time Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College all left the Big East for dead and the BE was so desperate to fill the vacancy that they added South Florida?
    (45 days ago, 0 stars)

    The gluten crazies and the essential oils nutjobs are completely immune to science, intelligence, and logic.
    (46 days ago, 5 stars)

    Give me ranked football, ranked basketball, throw in the #1 gym program of all time and I'm good.
    (46 days ago, 13 stars)

    Ted Miller doesn't get it at all.
    (47 days ago, 13 stars)

    Well, $#!+. The MWC is so far in my rear view mirror that it slipped my mind.
    (49 days ago, 0 stars)

    Still the only school in history, as far as I know.
    (49 days ago, 1 stars)

    If anybody has any questions about where Gordo's loyalties lie, that Boylen interview session took place after the BYU game, hence Boylen's "don't come here once every two years..." comment.
    (49 days ago, 13 stars)

    By the end of the season, I don't think anybody will be able to deny the Harbaugh effect.
    (49 days ago, 4 stars)

    It's #%!@ing STUPID. I hope the next AD "gets it" better than Hill and says firmly and publicly - no more BYU-P.
    (50 days ago, 8 stars)

    The idea that he has to defend himself over not scheduling a mid-major from one of America's $#!+tiest cities is #%!@ing insane.
    (50 days ago, 12 stars)

    ^^This is the thread winning post.^^
    (50 days ago, 9 stars)

    RE: "Or are they just bigoted liars who we should condemn and cast away?"
    (50 days ago, 1 stars)

    The answer is simple - they are liars and hypocrites, undeserving of the respect they demand for themselves at everyone else's expense.
    (50 days ago, 14 stars)

    A public service announcement to all Ute fans:
    (51 days ago, 5 stars)

    If you're not racist, then you obviously understand that genetics played zero role in both your experience and why the statistics played out the way you saw them play out.
    (52 days ago, 1 stars)

    Here is the entire interview:
    (52 days ago, 3 stars)

    LOL, what? 19?!? Where are you getting your misinformation?
    (54 days ago, 2 stars)

    You are missing the point - there are very, very few of "our own" to look at.
    (54 days ago, 5 stars)

    Between the Taysom/Tanner knob slobbing and now this age comparison absurdity, I have to believe you are trolling.
    (54 days ago, 3 stars)

    Hill is better than most Ute fans give him credit for, but he's nowhere near the world beater you are making him out to be.
    (54 days ago, 4 stars)

    He wasn't kicked off the team for the fight he started. He was "kicked off" the team so Bronco could do one of his patented redemption/forgiveness firesides.
    (55 days ago, 8 stars)

    Considering Michigan is the underdog, I'm fine with Cowherd championing the favorite and talking trash about the underdog.
    (56 days ago, 3 stars)

    The part you are missing is that damn near every Ute fan for several years now has been thinking, saying, and writing on places like UF.N "someone is going to break their neck" every time we watch BYU-P play.
    (56 days ago, 15 stars)

    To argue against your post would be akin to arguing against gravity, but I'm not sure that the local sports media wouldn't STILL try to do so in 2015.
    (58 days ago, 7 stars)

    Ummm.... Wow. Kragthorpe JUST figured out what was immediately obvious in 2010 to everybody in the country that isn't a mega zoob. (Meaning most of the Utah sports media, Kragthorpe just now admitting to it, were totally clueless at the time.)
    (58 days ago, 37 stars)

    Holy $#!+, really? Hackett is the first PAC player in history to win the Ray Guy award? SUCK IT...... EVERYONE!
    (59 days ago, 8 stars)

    It's not my personal favorite video playback app, but VLC is practically the default app for the vast majority of people these days.
    (61 days ago, 1 stars)

    I like Utah football.
    (61 days ago, 11 stars)

    RE: "...if it was so easy, then why didn't we win a few?"
    (62 days ago, 4 stars)

    1984 was the best season in BYU-P history and the highlight was a come from behind squeaker against an unranked 6 win Michigan.
    (62 days ago, 9 stars)

    Blue star for calling our starting QB "Turnover Thompson".
    (64 days ago, 11 stars)

    It might not show the very first game while he gets jitters out, but Reggie Porter is the best corner on the team, Hatfield included.
    (73 days ago, 5 stars)

    Two points about that:
    (83 days ago, 6 stars)

    You are orders of magnitude more optimistic about Hillary than I am.
    (91 days ago, 5 stars)

    I am hoping for a viable and mentally stable conservative candidate to emerge, like Huntsman Jr. in 2012, but I am not naive enough to believe that one will actually emerge.
    (91 days ago, 7 stars)

    I'm pretty sure that every Democrat in the country also hopes that Trump gets the nod. The finally tally would almost certainly be the largest margin of victory in the history of the United States.
    (91 days ago, 8 stars)

    Legally, I feel like both should be charged with assault and she is arguably more guilty than he is for being the first to cross the line. If only one party gets charged with assault, it should be her. Gender equality means equal legal standards.
    (91 days ago, 11 stars)

    West did have more than 32 grams of weed in his bedroom when he was arrested for the alleged rape of the foot fetish hooker.
    (92 days ago, 4 stars)

    In light of recent BYU player transgressions, some zoobs seem to finally be getting it and keeping their mouths shut this time.
    (96 days ago, 10 stars)

    A 3.2 and a 19? Not unless they have special circumstances. (Athlete, albino Native American, etc.)
    (99 days ago, 4 stars)

    The only takes of yours that I've called ridiculous are your claims of USC's D being "empty" and entire position groups being "bad" and "terrible", and I stand by that 100%.
    (102 days ago, 0 stars)

    Now I'm a hater for disagreeing with you about USC and making a reasonable counterpoint? And when did I ever say anything contrary about Michigan or Stanford?
    (102 days ago, 8 stars)

    Your recent takes on USC are ridiculous.
    (102 days ago, 4 stars)

    You are stripping the victims' friends and family of their humanity and giving all of the credit for their compassionate, measured reaction to religion.
    (102 days ago, 12 stars)

    You are bat $#!+ crazy.
    (107 days ago, 8 stars)

    We were also 2 plays away from 11-2.
    (109 days ago, 14 stars)

    Yup. Tacoma might have just gotten the ball rolling on a whisper campaign. The local media loves a negative rumor, facts or no facts.
    (112 days ago, 1 stars)

    The PAC hates Mormons so much that they invited a school with thousands of Mormon students and tens of thousands of Mormon alumni as part of an elaborate scheme to trick the world into believing they aren't prejudiced against Mormons. Riiiiiiight. %)
    (112 days ago, 21 stars)

    There isn't a single coach in college football that is untouchable.
    (114 days ago, 14 stars)

    Unfortunately my prediction of WCC approval being "highly unlikely" turned out to be wrong.
    (118 days ago, 0 stars)

    An unexpected update for anybody that remembers my breakdown of the rules surrounding full cost of attendance stipends and how BYU-Provo is beholden to the WCC due to Title IX:
    (118 days ago, 7 stars)

    The article in question says the range is $4-6M/yr, depending on several factors.
    (118 days ago, 2 stars)

    It's BYU-Provo. When you write "BYU" I can't figure out if you're talking about BYU-Idaho, BYU-Provo, or BYU-Hawaii.
    (118 days ago, 1 stars)

    Every time I have a negative thought about Larry Scott, I remember how much delusional USC fans despise him for $#!+ that is entirely USC's fault and it warms my heart.
    (137 days ago, 15 stars)

    RE: Brother Jake explains how Mormons don't hate gays
    (140 days ago, 4 stars)

    Are you telling me that you don't believe BYU-Provo gymnastics legitimately generated over $200K ( about 33% ) more revenue last year than Utah gymnastics? Blasphemer!
    (140 days ago, 8 stars)

    I still can't decide if your persecution complex is trolling or serious.
    (140 days ago, 5 stars)

    PSA of the day:
    (140 days ago, 43 stars)

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