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    Krystko is a badass.

    by TheBaron
    2015-01-17 21:59:43 ds/2015/01/Larry-Krystkowiak-Postgame-1-1 7 -15.mp3

    He's not necessarily seeing the cause of the loss any differently from the fans, but his demeanor about tonight's ass beating is as chill as an iceberg in January. His NBA experience, where last year's champion lost 27 games along the way and was still considered completely dominant all season, has taught him to take the causes behind the losses seriously while not sweating them or over-emphasizing what they mean.

    Krystko's got this. I believe we still have at least a 50/50 shot at the conference championship. Enjoy the ride.

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    My quick take:

    by TheBaron
    2015-01-17 19:34:48

    Arizona's basketball skills: Good, but nothing special. Maybe 3rd or 4th in the conference.
    Arizona's physicality: MMA level; absolutely elite. Arizona played out of control violent and the refs rewarded them for it again and again. Smart, smart, super smart game plan on their part.
    Arizona's mental toughness: Nationally elite
    Arizona's effort level: Extremely elite. Maybe the best in the entire NCAA. This is the #1 reason they will go impressively deep in the NCAA tournament with NIT basketball skills.
    Arizona's big game mojo: Unquestionably elite

    Utah's basketball skills: Almost elite, but not quite there.
    Utah's physicality: High against finesse teams, but wilts like spinach under high heat against teams that play like teeth kicking brawlers. See: Arizona and SDSU
    Utah's mental toughness: High, but nothing even close to Arizona's. Utah straight gave up during multiple stretches while Arizona maintained extreme focus during every second, from tip to buzzer.
    Utah's effort level: High, but nothing even close to Arizona's. This is the single most controllable metric in all of sports and Utah failed spectacularly tonight. This one is entirely on the coaches and players. Simply unacceptable in any game.
    Utah's big game mojo: Inconsistent. A lack of big game mojo can keep a final four quality team from even making the sweet sixteen. This ties back in to mental toughness and effort level.

    After watching every single Arizona game and every single Utah game this season, I believe Utah is, by a sizable margin, the more skilled team with better out of game coaching and would beat Arizona 8/10 times if all things were equal, but all things are not even close to equal.

    Arizona tried WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY harder tonight, which is embarrassing and simply unacceptable. Arizona played physically out of control - almost violent - daring the refs to call them out for it, while Utah played "within the rules" and got absolutely owned because of it. This is something I fully expected to happen and I am a basketball idiot compared to every single coach on Utah's staff. Utah should have been better prepared for it and responded more confidently, but they weren't and they didn't.

    Utah is going to have to make some fundamental changes, emphasis on the "mental" part, or Utah is going to lose to AZ in SLC, therefore losing the conference title, and lose to AZ in the conference tournament. Arizona played like bullies and Utah took a fist to the face like an unconfident nerd overwhelmed by the situation.

    I believe Utah has both the coaches and the talent to fix this and punch AZ's teeth out in SLC, but it isn't a foregone conclusion by any means. Utah has a lot to work on while AZ simply needs to stay the course. Call me delusional, but in spite of it all I have faith that Utah's staff and players will figure things out, beat AZ in SLC, and win the PAC-12.

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    I'm jealous of Boise State's football program because their coaches have always understood that offense is every bit as important as defense.

    by TheBaron
    2014-12-31 15:16:30

    I dare not dream of how awesome Utah football would be with a coach that both understands that undeniable truth and possesses the ability to walk the walk.

    Then again, maybe instead of dreaming one only needs to watch the Frogs to see what happens when a defensive guru steps out of his comfort zone, hires quality offensive staff, and tells them to score as many points as possible.

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    I am pleasantly surprised that the playoff committee admitted they made a mistake last week and dropped TCU from #3 to #6 after a blowout win.

    by TheBaron
    2014-12-07 14:39:10

    In spite of the incredible performance put on by OSU this weekend, I didn't think the committee would have the balls to do something so dramatic. Putting TCU behind Baylor after having them multiple places ahead of Baylor just days ago is a pretty big mea cupla. People with power, especially when acting in groups, almost never admit fault or change course so quickly.

    Relative to the AP Poll and the embarrassingly worthless Coaches Poll, I've been impressed with the playoff committee rankings from the first time they were released until the present. This is one situation where it's clearly better to put the power into fewer, more intelligent hands rather than a large collection of ignorant and extremely biased writers or coach's secretaries. The best part about the new format has been the rankings. They may not be perfect, but they have been a huge improvement.

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    So the Utes are playing a highly ranked team as one of the featured games of ESPN's tip-off marathon AND we get Bill Walton?!

    by TheBaron
    2014-11-18 12:21:31

    I feel like the Northwestern football players after they beat Notre Dame, but in this case Bill Walton is our Chick-fil-A. An already great day just got better.

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    Two things I expect to see in the ASU/Irish game today -

    by TheBaron
    2014-11-08 13:44:52

    1) I expect ASU's offense to look solid and productive, putting up a lot more points than they did against the Utes and validating the suffocating awesomeness that is the Utah defense.

    2) I expect Notre Dame to put up at least 250 passing yards, further demonstrating that Utah's struggles on offense are about the Utah's passing game being terrible and Travis being god awful at reading blitzes, rather than ASU having a stellar defense like some people thought last week.

    Maybe I'll be wrong about one or both of those predictions, but that is what I expect to see.

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    Is anybody surprised that the most conservative team in the country is from Utah and coached by a Mormon? :D

    by TheBaron
    2014-11-02 07:47:57

    In spite of his blind spots and areas of embarrassing, fireable incompetence, I love Whit and want to see him extended, but the guy makes me feel like some sort of masochistic pervert for watching the Utes struggle year after year to find a Sunbelt level offense. How many OCs and QBs can one man burn through before people accept that he's the sole cause of alll the offensive problems? There is no other explanation or excuse left. That much was clear like 3 OCs ago.

    As long as Whit is the coach we need to dial back our expectations and accept that Utah has to maintain a crazy elite, top 5 defense and crazy elite special teams just to be competitive in our losses. Utah is a mediocre QB and mediocre offensive play calling away from legitimately competing for the MNC. Most teams need a quality OC and quality QB play just to get bowl eligible, but mediocre would be enough to make Utah a perennial top 10 program.

    The day we have a top 50 QB is the day Utah becomes one of the big dogs. Silly me used to think finding a mediocre QB wasn't that difficult and it's just a matter of time. I'm finally starting to accept that we don't have a coach capable of identifying, recruiting, coaching, and supporting even a mediocre QB. I'm not smart enough to understand why, but Whit is what he is.

    I love the Utes and will be at the Oregon game, excited to watch our defense smother the best offense in the country and keep the loss respectable. It's a damn shame that half of the game will feel like getting a cucumber shoved up my urethra.

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    Not that it's news, but Derik Stevenson is the definition of a zoob in every way. Derick honestly lives in a completely different reality than the rest of us.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-24 14:39:16

    A reality where the world waits with baited breath for BYU to fart and then declares the aroma "big time". A reality where BYU is a national powerhouse that happens to be down a little bit at the moment, but otherwise would receive an invite from every major conference in the country - if only the university presidents weren't all a bunch of dirty anti-Mormons. Why is the world full of so many anti-Mormons hell bent on holding back BYU from it's rightful place next to, but slightly above Alabama?! Utah got invited to the PAC-12 over BYU? ANTI-MORMONS EVERYWHERE! UGGHHHHH!

    In Derik's reality, BYU beat an "average Texas team" and Utah beat "the worst Michigan team in decades", when both teams are currently sitting on a 3-4 record. Why does Derik call one 3-4 team "average" and the other "the worst in decades"? Oh yeah - BYU beat one of them while evil incarnate, Utah, beat the other. A good little zoobie makes sure to always spin and lie his ass off to cast God's one true university™ in the most flattering light possible, even if that means tearing down BYU's superiors in order to give the illusion of parity.

    Like most zoobs, he calls every quality team Utah beats "overrated" or "terrible" and every mediocre to awful team that BYU beats "underrated" or a couple of bounces away from being ranked. I've seen a different zoob claim that BYU's squeaker at home against a mediocre Virginia team is the best win of any team in the state this season; no joke. He claimed that OSU is "terrible" and UCLA is "bad" and "criminally overrated". Yet when BYU was 4-0 after barely sneaking by bad teams and beating down a 3-4 Texas team that played BYU without 11 of their starters, zoobs argued that BYU should have been top 10 and was a strong candidate for the playoffs.

    Derik calls out Bronco for his "arrogance", but then Derik takes personal credit for BYU's so-called "tradition", speaks as if glory and greatness are BYU's birthrights, and repeatedly calls Utah State a "glorified high school". Of course, he does these things while failing to see even a shred of irony. He doesn't see his own arrogance because he genuinely believes that BYU is a tradition rich power program being embarrassed by Bronco's failure to match BYU's prior glory.

    That is Derik's - and most zoobs - biggest problem. They honestly think BYU used to be big time. In truth, BYU was 2007 Hawaii, and, like Hawaii, they only did it ONE YEAR EVER. Unlike Hawaii, it happened 30 years ago. 30 years! Other than that, BYU's glory years weren't much different from what BYU is right now - a decent mid-major program that almost never played against teams with a pulse, usually lost - often in a blow out - whenever they did play a quality opponent, and spent most of the time racking up wins against terrible teams.

    The reason they went 19-2 against Utah during a 21 year stretch wasn't because BYU was a powerhouse; it was because Utah was at its all-time nadir and the Utes had a hard time beating even the aforementioned terrible teams that BYU was beating up on, let alone beating the pride of the WAC. Speaking of which...

    When your claim to fame is being the best team in the WAC for a couple of decades, after the two best teams in the WAC bolted for greener pastures, you don't have a claim to fame. You are nothing. In reality, BYU isn't at a low point right now - they are near their historical apex. Right now is about as good as BYU has ever been. In 1984, BYU didn't play a single team as good as 2014 USU or Nevada.

    The "greatness" of BYU under LaVell was about exploiting a novel and exotic offensive scheme to beat up on inferior competition and then crow about how they would totally beat the best of the best, if only they got a shot at them. BYU is college football's Uncle Rico. They are the original Boise State - beat up on terrible teams in the WAC after the WAC's best teams left for greener pastures. Both programs even got lucky on a couple of special QB recruits. The similarities are uncanny, except for Boise comes out looking about 100 times more impressive. If you compare their best wins and their overall records, BYU comes out looking like Boise-lite rather than vice versa.

    Zoobs think BYU is big time. The ignorant watching from afar think they are a has-been. The educated know that they are a never-was. Derik is a zoob, and hubris like his could complete BYU's regression to the mean, returning them to what they always were without LaVell or Bronco - a regional punching bag.

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    Reason #73 that Utah deserves to win tonight -

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-16 10:41:12

    OSU created a video hoping to convince OSU fans to "crank it like a chainsaw" whenever they play this terrible song during games, because... um... chainsaws cut wood and beavers chew wood? I'm not sure, but trying to inorganically manufacture a nerdy ass "official" dance move deserves to be punished by Orchard and friends. What kind of football team has its own dance move?

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    I have watched thousands - literally THOUSANDS - of NFL and college football games.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-05 00:17:29

    I watched Ed Hochuli fully steal a done deal win over Denver from San Diego that had major playoff implications on what is considered the worst call in NFL history. It was such bullshit that the rule books for both the NFL and college football have been changed exclusively because of it.

    I hate conspiracy theories and genuinely believe that 99.9% of them are bullshit. In all of those thousands of football games I have watched I have never once believed in such a thing as a legitimate, bonafide referee conspiracy... until tonight.

    There is zero question in my mind that the refs conspired to give that game to UCLA. Utah was the better team by 14-21 points tonight, but the refs made the game go down to the last play - TWICE!

    Even the announcers couldn't stop commenting on the number of "fortunate" calls UCLA got called in their favor and the number of "unfortunate" calls that UCLA should have been penalized heavily for, but weren't. There were so fucking many "unfortunate" calls and almost all of them were so comically egregious that I can no longer believe that while refs frequently blow calls (duh), it is not malicious or with the intent to effect the outcome of the game.

    Unless Utah just played the single unluckiest game of football I have ever witnessed, I believe the referees conspired to cheat that win in UCLA's favor. In spite of Utah overcoming the absurdity to secure the win over a top 10 team on the road, I am disillusioned and despondent right now.

    Like Vin Scully himself, I don't believe what I just saw. Tonight was utter bullshit for four fucking quarters and I want to see someone held accountable. Unfortunately, I know the chances of that are about 0.0001%.

    FUCK!!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the biggest wins ever and all I can see are all of the "missed" ridiculously obvious calls and all of the flagged completely bullshit calls that UCLA was gifted. It was seriously over 100 yards all told. Tonight was the worst screw job I have ever seen in all of my years obsessing over football and the Utes found a way to overcome it. I have no words for that part other than "wow."

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    I've watched this movie so many times.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 22:43:34

    SO GOD DAMN MANY TIMES. Please, sweet and merciful Jesus - let it end differently just this once. Outside of 2008 it always ends in heartbreak under Kyle. Can Utah EVER catch a break without finding a way to ruin it?

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    So when Jim Mora Jr said he's definitely going to kick to Clay, what he really meant is that he's scared $#!+less and will do everything possible to prevent return attempts tonight.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 21:51:18

    I don't blame him.

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    I'm officially into my mid-season loss cycle.

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 19:15:14

    I spent all week talking myself out of believing that Utah will win tonight, doing my best to accept the odds are stacked against us and UCLA is not going to allow themselves to have a letdown at home after their big ASU blowout.

    Now that it's game day, I've gone from "just try to enjoy the game for what it is" to "don't be so negative; stranger things have happened" to "what if WSU was a fluke mixed with some terrible luck and Utah is a lot better than I think?"

    I've been fully sucked in and now I'm excited and nervous for the game, just like I would have been if Utah had won last week. Against my better judgement, I really feel like the Utes can pull off the big win. I know I'm not the only one on here that does this to himself every week. It's the roller coaster that makes college football so fun when I'm not melting down over a bad loss.

    In the PAC-12, every week is a new opportunity to make some noise and tonight is a big one. I still have faith that Kyle and co. can pull off a masterful game plan and ruin the Bruins' dream season. Here's to hoping UCLA plays tight and Utah plays like a team with nothing to lose.

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    Classic game thread over on Shaggy Bevo. (One of Texas' most active message boards.)

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 01:47:06 d.php/150988-Utah-State-BYU

    Back to back to back posts -

    MortimerTX: Utah State is pushing BYU's $#@! in

    el squared: Taking Hill out was like killing the queen in a fire ant mound


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    B-b-but, but - Taysom jumped over the limp body of a bad Texas team's 3rd string safety after the guy fell down for no reason!

    by TheBaron
    2014-10-04 00:45:39

    That play meant BYU was a playoff team and all but guaranteed Taysom would win the Heisman! This totally unbiased Monty guy on 1320 told me so! How could the baby Jesus let this happen to God's anointed football team? Where will I buy $5 t-shirts to clothe little Jaxon, Azlyn, Noah, Lakynn, Blaze, and Kaylee? How will the football team convert millions of people if they can't even beat Utah State?

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    No longer drunk. Still can't believe Utah found a way to lose to Wazzu, at home, after being immediately spotted 14 points by the D and special teams.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-28 08:15:30

    I genuinely believed Kyle had turned things around. I was so sure. Easiest PAC-12 opener of his career and yet 0-1, once again, just like 2013; just like 2012; just like 2011. Let me guess how this movie ends - Utah is going to get a huge win, such as UCLA on the road or Oregon at home, and still finish 5-7 or, if we're lucky this year, 6-6. Even if Utah goes 6-6, with the talent on this team, with everything on the line this season, with the current state of the PAC-12... I make a change and I don't look back. This is Kyle's 10th year. If he had an ace up his sleeve he'd have played it years ago.

    Kyle has so many blind defenders that refuse to accept reality; that are proud of perennial mediocrity; that are happy with a goal 6-6; that were afraid to replace McBride. This season is Kyle's ceiling, people. He doesn't recruit any better talent than the talent we already have right now. He's on his 7th offensive coordinator in 7 years and this time he didn't just promote some random position coach from within the staff expecting them to be the next Chip Kelly. If he can't get it done this year, he's not getting it done.

    Obviously there are still another 8 games to be played and "anything can happen." Of course it's theoretically possible Utah still puts together its first PAC-12 winning season. (4-5, 3-6, 2-7, 0-1)

    Like I said, I genuinely believed Kyle was going to turn things around. I was so sure. Last night broke my spirit and suffocated my faith. It got me to finally say the last thing a program ever wants a fanatic to say - "I need to take a step back and stop spending so much time and energy on Utah football."

    I am an extremely grounded and healthy NFL fan, but a sick and unhealthy college fan. I'm going to try to take a step back and accept the mediocrity of Utah football. Hopefully one day we'll be able to reach the maddeningly reasonable, but seemingly impossible goal of breaking .500 in conference play. Just don't expect it to happen without a coaching change.

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    When your defense gets a pick six and your special teams gets a touchdown return, if you lose on the road in Tuscaloosa you have some serious questions that need to be asked about the heart of your players and the competency of your coaching staff.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-27 23:15:44

    When you lose to a 1-3 Washington State with your entire fucking career on the line --- AT HOME ---- you need to seriously consider naming an interim head coach before you embarrass yourself any further in next game. If Utah loses to UCLA, I will fully support letting Kyle go back to 1979 and letting Kalani give it a go as the interim HC.

    If Kyle has even a basal level of integrity, he will consider seppuku as an honorable way out of the wet, steamy pile of diarrhea he's created. What a fucking joke his program is. A pathetic, shameful joke.

    WSU is the third worst team in the conference, for Christ's sake; ahead of only Colorado and.......... Utah.

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    The zoobs don't play dirty. Bronco says this is just "fanatical effort" and playing "on the edge", both of which he encourages.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-23 13:19:48

    Bronco calls cheap shots and late hits "aggression penalties" and has no plans to correct them. BYU is currently the single most penalized team in college football (seriously - #1), and they aren't coming from false starts or delay of game.

    It's ironic that so many zoobs racistly refer to black players on other teams as "thugs" when their team has more dirty players and thuggish behavior than any other team in the country.

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    Max Hall is the worst person to ever be a part of the Utah/BYU rivalry by an incalculable margin.

    by TheBaron
    2014-09-02 15:05:49

    The guy is an unapologetic hypocrite, a degenerate liar, and - worst of all - a coward. He's also responsible for the most classless press conference I have ever seen in any sport in my entire life, the irony of which is hilarious to me considering the accusations he made. (Classic zoob projection syndrome.)

    I also know some people in Provo that know his extended family and have hung out with him a few times since his playing days ended; BBQs, Sunday dinners, etc. They said he's easily the most arrogant prick they've ever met and that he was completely unapologetic for his behavior.

    All of that said, a part of me feels sorry for the guy. I know he got sent home early from his LDS mission for prescription drug addiction and it sounds like he's still struggling with substance abuse. I don't find his arrest particularly funny and I'm having difficulty feeling schadenfreude about it. I sincerely hope he gets his life together.

    In my experience, the cornerstone of personal growth is humility, which is something Max has struggled with mightily both during and after college. The cognitive dissonance he lives with every day must be killing him. Hopefully he figures things out and is able to move on with his life. Unfortunately, narcissists rarely do.

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    Rough day so far for the Utes.

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-30 12:10:29

    Players confirmed to have been cut:

    Tevita Stevens
    Joe Kruger
    Karl Williams
    Jake Murphy
    Anthony Denham
    Tevita Finau

    Hopefully that will be all.

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    It's time to play a game I like to call "Guess The Zoob"!

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-29 17:04:01

    BYU will be without 7 starters for tonight's game against UCONN. Two players will be sitting out due to injury and five players are suspended for honor code violations.

    The objective: guess which two zoobies will be taking it easy on the couch, checking tinder all weekend and which five zoobies will be busy administering stitches to some Provostani snitches? With 21 possible combinations, you have a discouragingly improbable 4.76% chance of guessing correctly.

    Good luck!

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    Have I mentioned lately how nice it is to finally be rid of that worthless excuse for a sports journalist, Lya?

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-16 19:02:55

    The Trib has really been stepping up their game compared to the lazy Utah hater they used to have covering the Utes. Piper and Goon put together a nice video from the scrimmage today.

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    I was doing a quick search for an article that does a good job breaking down the recent NCAA changes, and I came across this gem:

    by TheBaron
    2014-08-08 14:04:11

    U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) issued a statement Thursday saying the NCAA's new model may warrant Congressional review from the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he is a member.

    “The NCAA should be responsible for promoting fair competition among its participating institutions and their student athletes,” Hatch said. “I am concerned that today's actions could create an uneven playing field that may prevent some institutions from being able to compete fairly with other schools that have superior resources to pay for student athletes. I also worry about how this decision will affect a school's Title IX requirements and whether this consolidation of power will restrict competition and warrant antitrust scrutiny.” efootball/writer/jon-solomon/24651709/nca a -adopts-new-division-i-model-giving-power - 5-autonomy

    It is no coincidence that Hatch is the senator most upset by the changes. It is even less of a coincidence that Hatch specifically brought up "concerns" about Title IX requirements under any potential changes. It sounds like the Provo mafia has already gone hat in hand to Mr. Hatch and explained their Title IX-WCC predicament.

    Does anybody really think Hatch is worried about SUU when he says "some institutions" will be unfairly placed on an uneven playing field? We all know exactly which institution he's worried about. Of course, by acting in BYU's best interest he's acting against the University of Utah's best interest, which is extremely unethical considering he's a Utah senator and BYU is a private religious institution. Hatch's primary allegiance clearly isn't the state of Utah, but rather the LDS church.

    In the end, it's all political theatre; public masturbation. In the coming years, BYU is going to find it extremely difficult just to tread water. Unless they are able to strong-arm the entire WCC into giving them what they want, I predict that it won't be very long after the changes before BYU joins whichever G5 conference ends up approving the most P5 legislation. Staying in the WCC would put their athlete benefits behind schools like New Mexico and Tulane, which will be completely unacceptable to all of the zoobs that think BYU is super important. At least in the AAC they'll be able to offer some of the things P5 schools will be able to.

    BYU is a slug and the lid just got unscrewed from the salt shaker.

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    Now we have jealous zoob state senators trolling our media day tweets.

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-23 13:02:00 23546046464

    What in the name of Weddle is wrong with these crybaby fuckwits? This is how our state senators carry themselves? Scary thought - this mouth breather is one of the members of the gerrymandered zoob caliphate in charge of approving the U's budget.

    There is nothing I'd like to see more than the upcoming contract with MiP to be cancelled and never resumed. Utah State is the only local school we should give the time of day.

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    The college football playoff financials for the 2014 season have been released.

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-16 15:08:56

    (See USA Today's breakdown here.)

    The payouts are as follows:

    $50M per conference for the P5

    $15M per conference for the G5

    Each conference gets an additional $6M per team that makes the four team playoff and $4M per team that makes a playoff bowl in a non-playoff year. (Playoff designated bowls are the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, Fiesta, and Peach.)

    Teams that make the 4 team playoff receive $2M each for expenses for the semifinal and an additional $2M each for expenses if they make the final.

    The Rose and Sugar bowls will be used for the playoffs once every three years. During the off years, each bowl will pay approx. $40M per conference to the PAC-12 and B1G (Rose) and the SEC and Big 12 (Sugar). The ACC has a contract with the Orange Bowl that will pay them approx. $27.5M per year during off years. These payouts are in addition to the $50M per conference baseline payout.

    Notre Dame, while not part of a conference, will receive a baseline payout $2.3M per year, plus the standard payouts related to any playoff bowl games they happen to make.

    All other independents will make $307,552.67 each.

    Each conference will receive an additional $300K per year for each team that meets the NCAA's minimum APR for bowl eligibility.

    I took a couple of minutes to break the numbers down per team. I did not include the payouts for making the playoffs or one of the other playoff designated bowls because there is no way to know what teams from what conferences will make the playoffs or the other big bowl games. I did not include the payouts for APR because there is no way to know which teams will fail to meet the minimum. Also, it is unclear if independents will receive the APR payout. At this time, it appears that only conferences are eligible to receive APR payouts, which would be yet another kick in the balls for independents.

    Big 12 - $7.67M per team
    PAC-12 - $6.39M per team
    B1G & SEC - $5.48M per team
    ACC - $4.88M per team
    Notre Dame - $2.3M
    AAC & Sun Belt - $1.36M per team
    MWC - $1.25M per team
    CUSA & MAC - $1.15M per team
    Independents - $307,552.67 per team

    (If you are so inclined, you can see a the spreadsheet here -

    Keep in mind that these figures are only for money related to the playoffs and the six designated playoff bowls. Payouts for each conference from other bowl games will be business as usual. Obviously the participants are going to be almost exclusively P5 schools, which will add up to quite a lot of additional money for P5 schools on top of the numbers above. The G5 conferences are only guaranteed one participant per season in one of the 6 playoff approved bowls, which will almost certainly mean a $4M payout and a trip to the Fiesta or Peach.

    These figures are for the 2014 season only and are expected to increase a good deal year over year. Also not included is money from merchandising and sponsorships, which is estimated to be as much as $40M-$50M per season. That money would be distributed unevenly as part of the base payouts.

    When all is said and done, in the first year alone I would not be surprised to see the PAC-12 distribute more than $10M per team in 2014 playoff money. This is obviously a BIG deal. The BCS was paying the PAC-12 anywhere from $17M to $27M per year to be split 12 ways, so the new format is truly a windfall for P5 schools.

    BYU is expected to get paid the least playoff money of any school in the country - just $307,552.67 total. Unfortunately, since they are not a member of a G5 conference, they are not eligible to take the one guaranteed G5 spot in one of the 6 big bowls, which would come with $4M payday. They could always get selected as an at-large over a highly ranked P5 team for one of the 4 non-playoff bowls, but the odds of that are extremely small; even if BYU managed to go 11-1.

    The only way BYU can guarantee themselves additional money is finishing in the top 4 of the playoff commission's end of season rankings and forcing their way into one of the $6M bowls. Beyond pulling off that miracle, they could quadruple their payout and gain access to the guaranteed G5 bowl slot if they admitted the mistake of going independent and joined the MWC or American. Pride comes with a price.

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    Silver lining: the U now officially approves and endorses singing "We drink our stein of lager and we smoke our big cigars".

    by TheBaron
    2014-07-02 13:40:19

    “When printed officially by the university, this 2014 version of the fight song will be used, but historical renditions of the song will always be acceptable,” Pershing said. “We encourage you to sing — loudly and with pride — whichever version resonates with you.”

    I've always sung the original 1904 lyrics, but it's nice to hear that the U now officially endorses those lyrics, even if they caved to pressure from teetotalers a few decades ago and caved to pressure from a couple dozen PC crusaders a few hours ago. Maybe the day will come where tradition becomes important again, prompting a change of the lyrics back to how they were intended to be sung when Utah Man was the team drinking song.

    All of this talk about "Utah Man" got me wondering - is the U the only major university that has an official drinking song that doubles as our fight song?

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    The two scandals themselves cannot be compared in *ANY* way on *ANY* level, but the general reaction from the zoobs has been eerily similar to the reaction of Penn State fans.

    by TheBaron
    2014-05-22 13:47:06

    Clueless denial; outrage directed towards the messengers rather than the cause of the scandal; shifting blame for the program's failures away from those responsible; aggressive scapegoating; cries for people that know the truth to keep their mouths shut and stonewall the investigation; shaming and/or threatening anybody with the courage to speak out; engaging in a mass campaign of spin and propaganda to cast doubt about the veracity of the claims and the character of the accusers...

    I can't say that I'm surprised, but it is sad to see, nonetheless. Fans can act pretty crazy when the school/team they love is under fire. Of course, it doesn't help when the fan base in question is filled with morons that place their leaders on disturbingly high and entirely undeserved pedestals like Penn State fans did with Joe Paterno and BYU fans do with literally everything in any way related to BYU. How can a person possibly reason with True Believer™ Stripling Warrior zoobs that have no boundaries between football and their religious beliefs?

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    Wooooow. Miller STILL hasn't pulled his starters.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 14:37:18

    At this point it's hard to call that anything other than a giant "fuck you, you fucking fucks" directed at Krystko and Utah. What a douche.

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    Nick Johnson always plays out of his mind against Utah. Ugh.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-13 13:35:36

    I know he's just a good player in general, but dude has looked amazing against us for 3 years now.

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    This is the most biased officiating against Utah we've seen all season.

    by TheBaron
    2014-03-05 23:00:23

    Somebody please tell me I'm being irrational and talk me off the ledge.

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    Top 10 Most Recently Posted Messages:

    I'm guessing it's a walk-on offer; possibly as a preferred walk-on.
    (1 day ago, 2 stars)

    Only a zoobie would pick such a strange thing to lie about. Does he not realize that porn-phobia is mostly an LDS thing?
    (7 days ago, 9 stars)

    As long as Whittingham is the head coach, it's a damn safe bet that Utah's offense will be near the bottom of the conference.
    (8 days ago, 5 stars)

    Krystko is a badass.
    (9 days ago, 8 stars)

    ^^Listen to this guy^^
    (9 days ago, 1 stars)

    Tonight was the best, most complete and impressive game that Arizona has played all year, and by a truly gargantuan margin. Trust me, I've watched them all.
    (9 days ago, 0 stars)

    I have seen 80-90% of games TJ has played at Arizona and tonight was easily the best game he's ever played in his entire career. It is extremely unlikely he'll do it again in SLC, Vegas, or the NCAA Tournament.
    (9 days ago, 1 stars)

    My quick take:
    (9 days ago, 9 stars)

    We won't find out in 4 hours because even if Arizona wins today, most of what O'Neil said is wrong.
    (9 days ago, 9 stars)

    (12 days ago, 14 stars)

    He was also throwing up the double bird and taunting the NEZ and the MUSS during warm ups. He exemplifies what it means to be a BYU athlete.
    (17 days ago, 7 stars)

    It is on national TV.
    (18 days ago, 2 stars)

    I agree 100%. One could argue that moving to OSU in the first place was "disloyal" or whatever, but what he does now that he's the DC at OSU can only be disloyal if it hurts OSU.
    (19 days ago, 6 stars)

    If I was in Kalani's position I'd be ruthless. The stakes are high and both wins and recruits are a zero sum game.
    (19 days ago, 0 stars)

    Anybody that genuinely believes that Kalani isn't trying to flip every recruit that will listen to him is a damn fool.
    (19 days ago, 12 stars)

    I disagree.
    (20 days ago, 2 stars)

    I was thinking the same thing. Utah has grown by leaps and bounds since that game while SDSU has managed to regress.
    (20 days ago, 0 stars)

    I know many can't stand him, but he is my favorite announcer to listen to. I'll probably rewatch the game when I get home so I can hear Bill's call.
    (23 days ago, 2 stars)

    If we were talking about football, a situation so ripe for a Ute blowout would scare the $#!+ out of me and I'd almost expect to lose.
    (23 days ago, 3 stars)

    So if I disagree with you it means I'm acting "holier than thou"? I hope you can see the irony in your claim.
    (26 days ago, 1 stars)

    You are talking about specific game results from a specific season. I am talking about long term program philosophies that transcend the results from any one season.
    (26 days ago, 1 stars)

    I'm jealous of Boise State's football program because their coaches have always understood that offense is every bit as important as defense.
    (26 days ago, 6 stars)

    Who's son do you have to be to get such an insane deal? That's some sort of bananas, "Chris Hill is my dad" deal.
    (35 days ago, 0 stars)

    This is the most vile, disgusting, and offensive post you've ever made on utefans.
    (43 days ago, 4 stars)

    Nothing says "no team in the country is safe" quite like beating Memphis.
    (43 days ago, 21 stars)

    I think you should look at the time my post was made and then reconsider your calling for me to reconsider. :D
    (44 days ago, 1 stars)

    A little of both, combined with Kansas being a legit final four contender, basically playing at home, and having a pretty damn good day themselves.
    (44 days ago, 2 stars)

    That 10 seed was completely ridiculous. BYU was a 12 seed at the absolute best, and even then one could argue 12 would have been generous.
    (48 days ago, 5 stars)

    How's this one working out for ya?
    (48 days ago, 11 stars)

    It's normally bad form to post utezone info on other message boards, but baseless rumors are an exception.
    (48 days ago, 0 stars)

    Sadly, someone confirmed directly from Cooper himself that the rumor is 100% bogus.
    (48 days ago, 0 stars)

    The results of this weekend, in a vacuum, are not even close to enough to warrant Baylor's passing of TCU, IMO.
    (50 days ago, 0 stars)

    RE: Duke to sun bowl... Looks like we are headed for Vegas!
    (50 days ago, 5 stars)

    I am pleasantly surprised that the playoff committee admitted they made a mistake last week and dropped TCU from #3 to #6 after a blowout win.
    (50 days ago, 2 stars)

    Why would they regret it?
    (50 days ago, 1 stars)

    I agree about TCU getting in. I'm excited to watch the inevitable tOSU/Baylor meltdown, because TCU getting in looks extremely likely.
    (50 days ago, 0 stars)

    (53 days ago, 18 stars)

    I was told tonight that he's done until conference play at the earliest.
    (53 days ago, 0 stars)

    I don't believe they were told a damn thing because there is zero evidence that any talks with the Big 12 ever took place at any point.
    (54 days ago, 1 stars)

    That would be a shame, as it's the only PAC-12 bowl that I have zero interest in attending.
    (54 days ago, 11 stars)

    Ryker Matthews is 1) down to his final year of eligibility, and 2) piss poor terrible.
    (54 days ago, 0 stars)

    40 times listed on recruiting websites are about as accurate as cougarboard.
    (54 days ago, 3 stars)

    And he sure as $#!+ wouldn't qualify as a "good get" by any stretch of the definition.
    (54 days ago, 4 stars)

    Bateman is an extremely athletic, 4.6 40 time (sub 4.6 according to Saban), legitimate running threat and has the ideal skill set for DC's system.
    (56 days ago, 1 stars)

    I believe they are 34-0 in their last 34 non-NCAA Tournament games.
    (56 days ago, 1 stars)

    Cooper Bateman would be Dave Christensen's wet dream QB.
    (56 days ago, 9 stars)

    You are projecting the extreme viewpoints of the fringe onto the majority.
    (56 days ago, 20 stars)

    Do I think TCU would come out in the top 4 if college football teams played a comprehensive, "leave no doubt" schedule like MLB?
    (58 days ago, 3 stars)

    It's their biggest win of the season. Let them enjoy it.
    (58 days ago, 7 stars)

    Utah would bring more fans to a bowl game in Stanford's own stadium.
    (58 days ago, 12 stars)

    I want Arizona to beat ASU and Stanford to beat UCLA so Kyle can spend another off-season
    (59 days ago, 3 stars)

    I agree completely. I was going to write a similar reply, but you did it for me.
    (62 days ago, 1 stars)

    And imagine spending your entire life with yourself, your friends, and your family being the target of that racism with the perpetrator being essentially untouchable.
    (62 days ago, 3 stars)

    Posts like this one are not much better than Flyer's.
    (62 days ago, 6 stars)

    Asset forfeiture should only apply if convicted of a crime and even then there should be guidelines and boundaries.
    (62 days ago, 5 stars)

    I'm not even a progressive liberal and I took offense. Stupidity is offensive regardless of its target.
    (62 days ago, 3 stars)

    The best I have? Did you seriously forget reading the post I made only 15 minutes prior?
    (62 days ago, 3 stars)

    Wow. Your thought process is dangerously diseased and corrupted.
    (62 days ago, 1 stars)

    Are these seriously the thoughts you had while watching the riots?
    (62 days ago, 9 stars)

    Only a simple mind frames a riot as progressive vs. conservative.
    (62 days ago, 12 stars)

    These posts always make me chuckle.
    (68 days ago, 9 stars)

    So you seriously think Carter is going to be the best safety in the NFL?
    (68 days ago, 7 stars)

    RE: So maybe I've gone full Zoob or something, which you never do, but I don't get the Jimmer hate. I get Jimmermania hate, just not that.
    (68 days ago, 1 stars)

    So the Utes are playing a highly ranked team as one of the featured games of ESPN's tip-off marathon AND we get Bill Walton?!
    (69 days ago, 9 stars)

    It's been over 19 years since Utah last lost to Stanford.
    (72 days ago, 10 stars)

    I feel that. I'd be pretty pissed if there was no way I could watch it.
    (72 days ago, 0 stars)

    RE: Tip off time
    (72 days ago, 1 stars)

    Sounds about right.
    (72 days ago, 3 stars)

    But Alabama's comically out of shape left tackle didn't play. If their LT wasn't suspended, Alabama's defense would have totally been able to stop Utah from scoring.
    (76 days ago, 4 stars)

    Wow, you are easy. A single quote from a politically biased website started by Tucker "bowtie" Carlson is all it took to fool you?
    (76 days ago, 7 stars)

    They don't get it because they suffer from collective narcissism and a raging persecution complex.
    (78 days ago, 16 stars)

    I don't understand how or why it would.
    (78 days ago, 11 stars)

    I hear you, too, but you left out a couple of important things Utah fans have also been saying:
    (79 days ago, 2 stars)

    Where did I predict that Notre Dame was good or would win the game?
    (79 days ago, 0 stars)

    I agree. Golson is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Travis in spite of having a terrible game today and getting eaten alive by ASU.
    (79 days ago, 0 stars)

    That would make me a very happy boy. He may be a douche, but he's been disturbingly successful at ASU.
    (79 days ago, 3 stars)

    Tailgating hard already or just confused about what I predicted? Both points are still looking dead on.
    (79 days ago, 0 stars)

    It's still the first quarter and Notre Dame has already matched Travis' passing total through four quarters and overtime.
    (79 days ago, 0 stars)

    Two things I expect to see in the ASU/Irish game today -
    (79 days ago, 1 stars)

    I'm on board with Chris Reyes only being a sophomore.
    (80 days ago, 0 stars)

    I would argue that the coaches haven't been trying to force Kendal Thompson onto the field, but rather they have been forcing Travis Wilson onto the field in spite of his struggles and Travis keeps forcing them to play Thompson.
    (80 days ago, 1 stars)

    I also attended all of the games that season, and in spite of the losses it was so much better than watching Boylen ball.
    (81 days ago, 5 stars)

    Your $2 would probably have a better ROI if you spent it on a pre-game tallboy.
    (83 days ago, 1 stars)

    I'm two thirds with you. If it wasn't so early I'd suggest that we all mix a drink and enjoy the positives of this season.
    (83 days ago, 1 stars)

    We have fantastic coaches that are some of the best in the country at everything except for offensive production.
    (83 days ago, 4 stars)

    Stay the course on defense? Great. Stay the course on special teams? Sure.
    (84 days ago, 8 stars)

    I'd like to see those little hotshots try that against ASU's defense!
    (84 days ago, 5 stars)

    I think watching four quarters of Utah's offense has thrown all of our timing off this morning.
    (85 days ago, 0 stars)

    Seriously? IT WAS A #%!@ING JOKE, not an argument that there is an actual link between one's coaching style and one's religion.
    (85 days ago, 2 stars)

    Rereading my post, I think it is obvious that "conservative team" was about football coaching and not off the field stuff like church and politics, but apparently that was lost in translation somewhere.
    (85 days ago, 1 stars)

    A little sand in our collective vagina today? It was obviously a joke and I think it holds up in spite of the blue stars from the persecution complex crew.
    (85 days ago, 3 stars)

    Is anybody surprised that the most conservative team in the country is from Utah and coached by a Mormon? :D
    (85 days ago, 3 stars)

    No Carter, no Rowe, and no Dres = an extreme disadvantage for the Utes, on the road, against one of the best teams in the country.
    (86 days ago, 1 stars)

    That actually sounds pretty great.
    (86 days ago, 0 stars)

    You traded a PS4 for ASU tickets?! I know the seats won't be very good, but there are thousands to be had for like $10 a seat.
    (86 days ago, 5 stars)

    He's an east coast redneck born in 1972. If he was a few years younger, he'd have said the exact opposite.
    (86 days ago, 2 stars)

    Lying for the lord.
    (90 days ago, 14 stars)

    Mostly just zoobs trying to hide their extreme jealousy by talking field storming smack.
    (90 days ago, 11 stars)

    So now we know that these rankings are about as subjective and filled with both east coast and "name brand" bias as the worthless AP poll.
    (90 days ago, 4 stars)

    I know he's just poking at you, but it sounds like your friend has never been to a college football game before.
    (90 days ago, 4 stars)

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    Now that cougarboard has gone apoplectic over the video they claim was attacking their faith, I'm going to post the truth about it. (64 stars)
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    For all of the lying they do - bordering on pathological, to be honest - sometimes I can't help but pause and ask "Wait... (52 stars)
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    You're just embarrassing yourself at this point. (45 stars)
    2013-09-19 22:20:32

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    Not that it's news, but Derik Stevenson is the definition of a zoob in every way. Derick honestly lives in a completely different reality than the rest of us. (42 stars)
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    A random idea I wouldn't completely hate if we were ever forced to drop the Ute affiliation some years into the future. (2715)
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    2012-11-05 23:59:52

    If you believe you are right, you shouldn't be jealous of Utah's conference. You should be thanking your lucky stars BYU isn't in an elite conference, playing a legit schedule week in and week out. (2005)
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