Utefans.Net - My Redzone
Look-up Member:
Mobile - Message Board - Best Stuff - Game Schedule - Photo Gallery - Quotable - Blogs - Join!
Username or email


Remember me

Forgot your password?

Become a Member!

Contribute to UteFans.Net
  • new threads
  • top posts
  • ute news
  • football news
  • basketball news
  • gymnastics news
  • best of the board
  • best of football
  • best of basketball
  • best of rivalry smack
  • Please visit our sponsors:
    Buy Utah Tickets
    MTM  icon
    Profile | Posts | Pics | Friends

    My Posts

    For all users. This page is automatically generated and contains the most recent and best work on the message board.

    Post Statistics:

    * Note: Current rankings are based on activity in the last calendar year.

    Recent Topics:

    How bad is our drop problem?

    by MTM
    2014-10-20 22:26:15

    I wondered (posted) this a few days ago.

    We seem to have an inordinate number of dropped passes but do any of us know what is considered too many or even normal?

    It is difficult to find stats for the college game but I found quite a few sites for the NFL that track this.

    The best one I found looked at a 3 year period.

    The very best drop 3-6% of catchable balls.

    The worst in the NFL have drop rates between 10-15%.

    To me that would suggest "normal" is somewhere between 7-9%.

    I'm not sure what kind of adjustment one would make for college vs. NFL but I think you have to assume that drops would be even higher in college.

    So I watched the 4 games I still have on my DVR-Michigan, WSU, UCLA, and OSU.

    Since I am not aware of any official stat for drops I used my best judgement as to what constituted a catchable ball that was dropped.

    Michigan-I counted only 1 bad drop. A slip screen to Dres. I did not count the pass to Bubba in the end zone because although it could have been caught it would have been a really great catch for a RB to pull off. There was another one to Scott that was questionable but the throw was not very good.

    WSU-I counted 4 drops. 1.) A sideline route to KScott. 2.) KT's screen to Dres. 3.)KScott on a quick hitch pass, 4.) and Dres' sure TD near the end.
    When I watched the UCLA game Rod Gilmore referenced 6 drops against WSU but I don't know where he got that number or which 2 passes went down as drops that I didn't see.

    UCLA-I saw 3. 1.) KScott on slant. 2.) Clay on a crossing route. 3.) Scott again on an out pattern.
    *Because of the recording of the replay I have I missed a couple series. TW's last one of the night and one in the 2nd half. Not sure if there were drops in those two.

    OSU-I counted 2 obvious ones and 2 maybe ones. 1.) Dres' screen that he tipped for the INT. 2.) Dres on another slant. Not an easy catch but probably should have made it. 3.)Dres' TD that wasn't. I don't know if I'd call it a drop because he made the actual catch but had the ball knocked away. 4.)Tonga's crossing route. He caught the ball with his hands but had it separated by a hard hit with a helmet right on the ball. Tough one but we need those.
    **Dres' almost TD with the PI called. Technically, not a drop but another tough catch that we need to start making.

    >> View Responses



    by MTM
    2014-10-18 13:54:01

    We seem to have an inordinate number of dropped passes but do any of us know what is considered too many or even normal?

    It is difficult to find stats for the college game but I found quite a few sites for the NFL that track this.

    The best one I found looked at a 3 year period.

    The very best drop 3-6% of catchable balls.

    The worst in the NFL have drop rates between 10-15%.

    To me that would suggest "normal" is somewhere between 7-9%.

    I'm not sure what kind of adjustment one would make for college vs. NFL but I think you have to assume that drops would be even higher in college.

    Next time I re-watch a game I'm going to pay attention to the percentage of our drops.

    >> View Responses



    by MTM
    2014-10-18 09:50:21

    I wrote a big, long analysis and then deleted it.

    I'll just say I am torn about who the QB should be at this point and Iím glad I donít have to make the decision.

    I watched the OSU game again. Well, I watched every offensive possession. In slow motion.

    My football knowledge consists of playing QB in high school and then coaching HS football for 4 years.

    I could make a pretty strong argument for either guy.

    And I think the whole receivers dropping the ball will fix itself. I liken it to last year when we could not force a turnover on defense. I think the curse will inexplicably be broken never to return.

    >> View Responses


    College Game Day

    by MTM
    2014-10-17 09:28:39

    There has been some discussion about ESPN bringing College Game Day to SLC next week.

    The argument against it was that FOX has rights to the game so it would not work.

    But.....Game 4 of the World Series is scheduled for Saturday night on FOX.

    Any chance ESPN is able to buy rights to that game? And move kick off to noon or something?

    Different situation than last night because the TV crew was still FOX but JAT.

    >> View Responses


    The wild and whacky PAC and why I believe the Utes are still alive

    by MTM
    2014-10-03 11:56:50

    So all the talk this morning is that Arizona is for real. Someone even said they are the best team left on Utah's schedule and that may be true.

    Last night was a great win for sure. But their other ones not so much.

    UT-San Antonio (who is now 1-3) by a field goal.
    Nevada by a touchdown
    Cal (who needed two OTs to beat an awful CU team) on a prayer

    Their offense is spectacular but they are 90th in the country in defense.

    I believe anybody can beat anybody top to bottom in the PAC.

    And nobody is as good as their last win (AZ, UCLA) or as bad as their last loss (Utah, ASU).

    >> View Responses


    Three penalties and the fumble were killers.

    by MTM
    2014-09-29 10:18:07

    1st offensive possession the O moves the ball to the WSU 26 after a 3rd down conversion and we get a late hit penalty.

    Instead of 1st and 10 at the 26 we're pushed back to the 41 and the first play of that drive is the only sack of the night back to the 50. Drive stalls. Punt.

    2nd Quarter-The O drives the ball 55 yards to the WSU 31. TW misses a wide open Tonga up the sideline for a likely touchdown but it matters not because there is a chop block penalty on the play. So now it is 2nd and 25 at the WSU 46. Drive ends with a missed FG.

    Right before half the O moves the ball 40 yards in less than a minute after Booker's run to the WSU 16. Holding moves it back to the 37 and we settle for 3.

    3rd Quarter-Still up 24-7 Kaelin Clay takes a bubble screen, makes a nifty move on the DB and races 28 yards to the WSU 40, and God bless him, has it jarred loose. The only TO of the game. WSU scores on the next possession to cut the lead to 24-14.

    >> View Responses


    My observations from last night's game

    by MTM
    2014-09-28 14:33:12

    We really missed Tevin Carter. Marcus Williams was put in a tough spot with little chance for success.

    Kaelin Clay is good. Maybe should be the #1 receiver.

    I love how hard Davonte Booker runs.

    Dominique Hatfield is good and I look forward to seeing him progress.

    Justin Thomas had some nice plays.

    I wonder if Travis Wilson is executing the read option correctly. Several plays looked as if either it was a straight hand off call or if he's just not reading the DE properly.

    My guess is Kyle is not going to be fired unless the Utes win fewer than 2 games the rest of the season. Nor do I think he should be.

    I met 3 UteFan.net'ers (2 in from out of town) for the first time yesterday and that was cool.

    >> View Responses


    Todd Graham-NSFW language

    by MTM
    2014-09-26 10:03:40

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqCGTkV5 wg

    >> View Responses


    Kind of fun for the old timers if you have 3 hours to kiil

    by MTM
    2014-06-09 13:23:57

    http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_25903 832/watch-vikings-stun-eagles-at-met-1978- classic

    >> View Responses


    I think I like this idea. No National Letter of Intent Day

    by MTM
    2014-06-05 11:05:43

    http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football /story/bo-pelini-national-signing-day-nebr aska-cornhuskers-060414

    >> View Responses


    Onwas gone

    by MTM
    2014-04-28 12:38:44

    Not one I expected to leave.

    >> View Responses


    No contact for TW today, correct?

    by MTM
    2014-04-04 21:14:16

    I assume that goes for all QBs in the spring, yes?

    >> View Responses


    I think this is the ugly crying face Steve Smith was talking about

    by MTM
    2014-03-20 15:32:18

    http://col.stb00.s-msn.com/i/A9/CA4697EB1 5B97A134E92E471CA3B7.jpg

    >> View Responses


    MV would hate this kid.

    by MTM
    2014-03-20 14:37:49

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/kid-wa nts-souvenir-ball-has-tantrum-gets-ball-03 2014

    >> View Responses


    The boys can't look ahead. Today it is Arizona

    by MTM
    2014-03-13 09:15:01

    then Cal or Colorado then Oregon or UCLA or Stanford or Arizona State.

    >> View Responses


    Will Over Skill. BYU's 2014 slogan according to 1280

    by MTM
    2014-03-04 11:14:19

    Can this be real?

    >> View Responses


    Drowning Mona

    by MTM
    2014-02-28 09:23:05

    Panned by critics.

    Vastly underrated IMO.

    Danny DeVito, Bette Midler, Neve Campbell, Jamie Lee Curtis, Casey Affleck, William Fichtner, Will Ferrell, Melissa McCarthy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUapG9Ma3u w

    >> View Responses


    Nice story. Why would a school not release a kid from scholarship in this case?

    by MTM
    2014-02-13 08:15:15

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/from-j anitor-to-the-nfl-lindenwood-cb-desir-take s-unlikely-path-to-the-league-021214

    >> View Responses


    Another music video from the next big thing

    by MTM
    2014-02-08 11:34:17

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmJbJs-9ST 0

    >> View Responses


    Salesi Uhatafe-is he still with the team?

    by MTM
    2014-02-06 11:18:12

    Someone posted something about Gaius Vaenuku yesterday and it made me think of Uhatafe.

    >> View Responses


    One of my favorite renditions. (Link only, thank you)

    by MTM
    2013-12-24 10:08:13

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABQQiwCf uI

    >> View Responses


    Looks like Leach has rubbed off on Halliday

    by MTM
    2013-12-21 14:42:35

    Can't wait to see the post game handshakes.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football /story/wait-what-did-he-say-csu-coach-has- volatile-exchange-with-wsu-qb-122113

    >> View Responses



    by MTM
    2013-12-16 08:48:19

    My friend posted on Facebook something about the pumps at his local gas station having the decimal in the wrong place so the price was listed at $295.99/gallon this morning.

    The first comment said "take a bus. paying over $200 a gallon won't work for this house." Post's author? One Reno Mahe.

    I'm having a tough time laying off that softball.

    >> View Responses


    I'm not a big NBA fan but how bad is the Atlantic Division this year?

    by MTM
    2013-12-13 15:55:57

    Celtics in first place with a 10-14 record?

    >> View Responses


    Profile Of The Day

    by MTM
    2013-12-13 09:03:56

    Health and happiness to Monkey's Girl and her non-better half this holiday season.

    >> View Responses


    Big Dog Coffee

    by MTM
    2013-12-12 17:57:20

    Not the cutest barista I've ever seen but excellent coffee.

    Stop by when you're in the neighborhood!

    >> View Responses


    I like this story. Southern Miss coach buys all Seniors a new suit.

    by MTM
    2013-12-10 14:27:43

    http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/fox-spo rts-networks/story/Southern-Mississippi-co ach-gives-seniors?blockID=971065&feedID=37 42

    >> View Responses


    Sad to see the Flower Patch go. What a wrestling match that was. Just like Bill and Nada's.

    by MTM
    2013-12-10 09:46:00

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/5724135 3-78/flower-lake-salt-patch.html.csp?page= 1

    >> View Responses



    by MTM
    2013-12-06 10:30:45

    Looking at Sagarin the top 5 most difficult schedules this season are all PAC teams. Which makes sense.
    1-Utah 5-7
    2-WSU 6-6
    4-ASU 10-2
    5-Stan 10-2

    For reference
    1.Mizzou 5-7, 2.AUB 3-9, 3.KAN 1-11, 4.FLOR 11-2, 5. OK 10-3
    1.KAN 2-10, 2.Iowa St. 6-7, 3.OK ST. 12-1, 4.A&M 7-6,5.TX 8-5

    >> View Responses


    I wonder how 72 voted.

    by MTM
    2013-12-05 11:35:18

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5 18367244937444&set=a.193203067453865.43010 .188299841277521&type=1&theater

    >> View Responses


    Top 10 Most Recently Posted Messages:

    Holy Hell! That was funny!
    (0 days ago, 0 stars)

    The very best thing about his interview is that Slick Rick called them DJ and PJ. LOLZ
    (0 days ago, 6 stars)

    Your're welcome to rewatch the games and make your own judgement.
    (0 days ago, 1 stars)

    I should have done a better job of recording the situation too. 3rd down drops and end zone drops get magnified to the fans.
    (1 day ago, 1 stars)

    Maybe. The one I saw was a crossing route on 2nd and 10 in the 4th quarter that would have moved the chains.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    How bad is our drop problem?
    (1 day ago, 7 stars)

    You may be right but I was noticing of that 192 yards one was a 76 yarder by Booker. I know they all count but aside from that run YPC was under 3.0.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    And isn't that the only stat that matters anyway? :)
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    I'm trying to stay optimistic about the offense.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    The OL sure seems to know how to run block.
    (1 day ago, 4 stars)

    Bad Mother#%!@er
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    Hard to argue that after watching ASU against Stanford.
    (1 day ago, 0 stars)

    50th Anniversary. We'd beat them 32-6.
    (2 days ago, 8 stars)

    I tried to donate $1 under the name Darren Lucy but the minimum donation is $5.
    (2 days ago, 7 stars)

    More often than not Hatfield is in good position. He is going to be really good. The TD on 4th down in OT was a terrific throw and an even better catch but Hatfield had good coverage.
    (2 days ago, 0 stars)

    As my daughter used to say when she was about 2 years old'"No Fay Dank You Right Now".
    (2 days ago, 1 stars)

    ALWAYS want North to beat South
    (3 days ago, 9 stars)

    I didn't realize this was her until last week.
    (3 days ago, 2 stars)

    I agree. You get the double whammy when a catchable ball is tipped for an INT or one in the endzone is dropped.
    (3 days ago, 1 stars)

    My point was how bad is our drop issue? Is it worse than any other team? Or do we just perceive it to be? If it is worse, by how much? If somewhere around 10% is average for most teams what is ours?
    (3 days ago, 2 stars)

    Exactly. A drop in the endzone in the MD/Iowa game got me thinking about it.
    (3 days ago, 0 stars)

    Understood but it is part of the game.
    (3 days ago, 0 stars)

    (3 days ago, 2 stars)

    I don't claim this be anything of value. Just my thoughts
    (3 days ago, 4 stars)

    (3 days ago, 9 stars)

    For a TD.
    (3 days ago, 2 stars)

    Booker would never have a Chai Latte. He just rips open a bag of whole beans and eats those by the handful.
    (3 days ago, 4 stars)

    Bubba is a good receiver out of the backfield too.
    (4 days ago, 1 stars)

    Fire Riley!
    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    THAT I agree with.
    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    I noticed that watching the game but I'm pretty sure the officials set the game clock at :03 before the next snap.
    (4 days ago, 13 stars)

    He is a great guy. My family has kind of developed a casual friendship with him. Truly the "guy you'd want your daughter to marry" kind of guy.
    (4 days ago, 5 stars)

    Your SIDE NOTE is perfect
    (4 days ago, 22 stars)

    (4 days ago, 2 stars)

    Not if your daughter has a dance performance at 7. :(
    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    College Game Day
    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    I told my wife that exact thing this morning. This offense is no better than when Jon Hays was the QB.
    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    I guess I don't understand the rule but Dres' looked like a TD to me. Not sure the other one you're talking about. Yes, I saw Hackett and told my wife I thought we were going to get a flag.
    (4 days ago, 0 stars)

    They're at home? That is the only thing I see on paper.
    (5 days ago, 3 stars)

    That's funny because I do the opposite. Last week I thought we'd win tonight. As it gets closer I'm reminded that I felt this exact way on September 27.
    (5 days ago, 1 stars)

    Too soon
    (5 days ago, 4 stars)

    A good beaver joke if there ever was one.
    (5 days ago, 2 stars)

    Do you know what channel the game is on?
    (6 days ago, 0 stars)

    From what I've seen in my 48 years is that this type of issue isn't a "teenager" problem. Those wheels were set in motion when the teenager was a young child and this is the result of that.
    (6 days ago, 2 stars)

    Who remembers when the AP was the only the Top 20?
    (9 days ago, 1 stars)

    Danielson also downplayed the Sugar Bowl because Alabama was down to their 3rd LT. Doofus.
    (10 days ago, 1 stars)

    A bad situation that could spiral really fast. Look at the player's faces watching this. They look to the coaches for structure and leadership. Could be real bad going forward.
    (10 days ago, 2 stars)

    Word. I think we have finally reached the point this season where I really believe the Utes are actually a better team than most of the opponents on the schedule.
    (10 days ago, 4 stars)

    I think Big Z posted yesterday that he had some for sale
    (10 days ago, 1 stars)

    Abby someone
    (10 days ago, 2 stars)

    Leach said our game was the "most complete game on both sides of the ball" they've played in his time at WSU.
    (11 days ago, 0 stars)

    Welcome to Sack Lake City!!!
    (11 days ago, 1 stars)

    We always want the north to beat the south so Oregon over UCLA. The other one is kind of 6s I guess.
    (11 days ago, 1 stars)

    I called Xfinity and the gal I spoke with confirmed Channel 22 SD and 643 HD
    (11 days ago, 0 stars)

    What does that mean for Comcasters? Channel 2.2? Rod Decker isn't calling the game I hope.
    (11 days ago, 0 stars)

    What do we have for TV next Thursday? The Fox Sports 1 website has the NLCS listed instead of the Utes game.
    (11 days ago, 0 stars)

    I thought it might be a good way to meet SFork's wife
    (12 days ago, 6 stars)

    We could really mess with them and start Blechen at QB. He was recruited as one.
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    Home teams are 3-11 in conference games this season.
    (12 days ago, 1 stars)

    Missed that.
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    Is this kid still on track for 2015?
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    Does he refer to Utah as the 13th best team in the PAC-12 again?
    (12 days ago, 0 stars)

    (13 days ago, 2 stars)

    I don't care as long as everybody has FUN!!!
    (13 days ago, 0 stars)

    I don't doubt that. I've never seen a different camera angle of the scrum. Nor of the ref "dropping the ball" when trying to spot it with :08.
    (14 days ago, 0 stars)

    I just posted this below but it appropriate to this thread too. Booker's helmet coming off changed the final minute.
    (14 days ago, 5 stars)

    Booker's helmet coming off kind of screwed up the plan.
    (14 days ago, 6 stars)

    RE: ^^^^Switch hitter^^^^
    (16 days ago, 6 stars)

    I love that attachment play that I first saw from Arizona this year where the QB has the option to throw to the WR after the read option.
    (16 days ago, 1 stars)

    You sound like Jack Handy
    (16 days ago, 1 stars)

    I read somewhere that Kyle said he was going to get an explanation today. From whom I don't know.
    (16 days ago, 1 stars)

    The wild and whacky PAC and why I believe the Utes are still alive
    (18 days ago, 5 stars)

    That's what I was saying the other day. I'm not sure our O problems are TW's arm as much as the execution of the read option.
    (18 days ago, 0 stars)

    Double post
    (18 days ago, 0 stars)

    I didn't watch the 2nd half
    (18 days ago, 0 stars)

    Am I wrong for feeling a little optimistic again watching this game?
    (19 days ago, 1 stars)

    (19 days ago, 0 stars)

    You're younger than I thought
    (19 days ago, 0 stars)

    Whatever. We're not going to agree.
    (19 days ago, 0 stars)

    RE: Think I agree with both of you guys - given the time left, it wasn't a bad call. Considering the end results, it was a bad call.
    (19 days ago, -1 stars)

    "We convert and the game is won"
    (20 days ago, 7 stars)

    (20 days ago, 0 stars)

    You are obsessed with the end result. We all know the end result sucked and wasn't what anybody wanted.
    (20 days ago, 2 stars)

    I'll have to watch again but I think the 2nd pass was out of bounds even if Clay had caught it.
    (20 days ago, 0 stars)

    I couldn't watch. I turned it on when KC was up 3-2 and then Oakland scored 5 in the top of the 6th or whatever.
    (20 days ago, 0 stars)

    Utah 24 UCLA 20
    (21 days ago, 2 stars)

    Will you go to the dance with me?
    (21 days ago, 2 stars)

    So he IS injured? There was talk he missed WSU for disciplinary reasons.
    (21 days ago, 0 stars)

    I've said it before but you lead a charmed life!
    (21 days ago, 0 stars)

    So what do you think should be done today? Right now? Nothing.
    (21 days ago, 0 stars)

    I acknowledge I don't know the specific 4th and inches situations you are referring to from those games
    (22 days ago, 1 stars)

    (22 days ago, 0 stars)

    What do they say about hindsight?
    (22 days ago, 0 stars)

    Correction-Looks like they had 5 wins vacated.
    (22 days ago, 0 stars)

    Followed by 1-11 in 1979 :O
    (22 days ago, 0 stars)

    No doubt. And he catches the ball. He got rocked and literally spit blood after that short out pattern but he made the catch. Great blocking on Booker's long TD too. I posted the other day I think he might be our #1 receiver.
    (22 days ago, 0 stars)

    Three penalties and the fumble were killers.
    (22 days ago, 9 stars)

    Red Don is gonna be so mad
    (23 days ago, 1 stars)

    Good call!
    (23 days ago, 0 stars)

    Top 10 Most Recommended Messages:

    Shout out to Jon Hays (44 stars)
    2011-11-29 12:58:18

    I think it's a dick move for a fan to tear down any player's on-field performance. But that's just me. (29 stars)
    2014-09-22 14:25:18

    My daughter received hers too! (29 stars)
    2014-01-14 19:52:41

    Blechen helmet to his chest please (26 stars)
    2011-02-02 13:43:51

    Hays made a mistake on that throw no different than Eric Rowe made a mistake biting on the crossing route as Lee blew right past him. (25 stars)
    2012-10-09 13:12:55

    Is she hot? (24 stars)
    2012-10-23 17:24:18

    Your SIDE NOTE is perfect (22 stars)
    2014-10-17 11:50:52

    Yes, of course. (19 stars)
    2013-10-08 09:51:25

    My daughter the beer chick. (19 stars)
    2013-04-03 13:53:20

    Not (19 stars)
    2012-09-13 12:23:35

    Top 10 Most Viewed Messages:

    Randall Carlisle just bagged my groceries at Harmon's City Creek. (1115)
    2013-12-03 20:07:35

    Tom Cella tweet (636)
    2012-01-23 21:52:44

    X 10 (636)
    2012-11-23 14:51:58

    I like Kelvin York a lot (621)
    2012-11-23 14:28:14

    Per Cella- JC QB to walk on (548)
    2012-02-15 20:26:31

    From the Twitter just a few minutes ago (540)
    2012-02-01 12:10:40

    Blechen helmet to his chest please (515)
    2011-02-02 13:43:51

    Cella Tweet=Awesome! (511)
    2012-02-01 15:00:43

    Lucien (495)
    2011-02-02 13:58:28

    Glen Dean (442)
    2012-01-26 13:22:28

    DISCLAIMER: UteFans.Net is not affiliated with the University of Utah, except that the owner, operators and contributing members are students, alumni, and rabid fans of the U. Additionally, the owner and operators of Utefans.Net are not responsible for the actions of those who use this public forum. By contributing to this forum you agree to abide by the Rules of Conduct outlined on the Post Message page.

    Forum - Boardmail - Profile - Schedule - Events - Photos - Archive - Quotable - Join!
    Home | About Us | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | News | Contact Us

    Copyright (C) 1998-2014 Utefans LC. All rights reserved. Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.