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Having a player mature mentally and physically for two years is a major advantage and only a moron would argue otherwise.

Posted By: TheBaron
Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 12:06 pm

The popular zoob retort is something to the effect of "if missions were such an advantage, you'd see Alabama doing it." Uhh... no, you wouldn't. Even if Alabama desperately wanted to have its players leave on a 2 year mission or service trip because of the obvious physical and mental advantages it would give them over the competition, they could never do it because the players that Alabama recruits would never agree to it.

Star athletes aren't going to walk away from football for 2 years and delay their NFL dreams for 2 years in order to give their already privileged college program an extra advantage. If Alabama or USC started asking players to go on a service trip or even just live at home and work out twice a day, away from school/football for 2 years, at least 99 out of 100 recruits would tell them hell no and sign somewhere else.

The only players in the country willing to agree to such an extreme request are LDS athletes without looming NFL prospects that have been pressured to be a missionary since diapers. It is very telling that the best of the best LDS players rarely go on a mission trip.

Involving something like 90% of their roster, BYU has been reaping the physical and mental maturity benefits of mission trips for decades, gaining an advantage over its competition that can't be duplicated. Even at LDS-friendly Utah, with our LDS coach, only 10% of scholarship players are mission guys any given season. Alabama, et al. don't do what BYU does because it is impossible without switching over to an all marginally talented devout Mormon recruiting strategy. They would love to enjoy the advantages of older players, but it isn't possible outside of Provo.

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The Thrill icon NEW: I for one love the fact Utah players go on missions. They become more mature and headstrong with priorities. Why deny that?
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 11:12 am [ID# 1860970] [reply]
o NEW: Don't care, just get the best players possible. That said, I do remember Britton Johnsen sucking right after his mission. (nm)
UtesMuss1 - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 11:26 am [ID# 1860971] [reply]
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o NEW: missions seem to adversely affect basketball players more than football players just my take. And yeah Britton was never the same (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 11:44 am [ID# 1860974] [reply]
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o NEW: Why can't BYU fans realize this? YES, it is an advantage to have a kid go on a mission especially when it comes to the OL/DL.
Ute2004 - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:00 pm [ID# 1860978] [reply]
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mokus icon NEW: They don't want to act like they get any unfair advantages. They are a normal school with normal players. Except for that whole called by god to be the best thing. (nm)
mokus - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:05 pm [ID# 1860980] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Exactly my point.
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:13 pm [ID# 1860988] [reply]
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TheBaron icon NEW: Lumping Utah in with BYU is a ridiculous false equivalency. Please stop.
TheBaron - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:28 pm [ID# 1860994] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Today yes, ten years ago they were much closer. (nm)
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:31 pm [ID# 1860996] [reply]
TheBaron icon NEW: Myth. (nm)
TheBaron - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:34 pm [ID# 1860998] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: Insecure. (nm)
Zeous - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 01:29 pm [ID# 1861011] [reply]
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TheBaron icon NEW: Explain. (short)
TheBaron - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 01:32 pm [ID# 1861012] [reply]
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Zeous icon NEW: It's not invalidating to Utah to accept that the two programs were closer then than they are today. Unless your insecurities prevent objective analysis. (nm)
Zeous - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 04:06 pm [ID# 1861045] [reply]
TheBaron icon NEW: Except that objective analysis supports that Utah has never really had any higher than 10% of football scholarships occupied by former LDS missionaries.
TheBaron - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 10:00 pm [ID# 1861130] [reply]
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TheBaron icon NEW: Having a player mature mentally and physically for two years is a major advantage and only a moron would argue otherwise.
TheBaron - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:06 pm [ID# 1860982] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Something entirely overlooked is the length of NFL careers of return missionaries.
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:30 pm [ID# 1860995] [reply]
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jamarcus22 icon NEW: It is what it is.
jamarcus22 - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 02:32 pm [ID# 1861020] [reply]
Chad Sexington icon NEW: No one over the age of 23 should be allowed to play college football. All the manipulations of RS, Mish, Injury RS, and whatever else, should be disallowed.
Chad Sexington - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:07 pm [ID# 1860983] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: What about military who serve 4 years out of high school then walk on to a college team? (nm)
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:26 pm [ID# 1860993] [reply]
Chad Sexington icon NEW: What about 'em? Did I stutter? (nm)
Chad Sexington - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:40 pm [ID# 1860999] [reply]
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o NEW: Looks like Sitake is continuing with the tds tradition of missionary poaching. (nm)
UtesMuss1 - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:19 pm [ID# 1860990] [reply]
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o NEW: Sitake is all in with missionaries. He isn't even hiding it. He knows he can't recruit to BYU and win how he wants to win. He knows his best shot is missionaries and transfers. He is putting the full court press on all missionaries while they are on
Ute2004 - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:42 pm [ID# 1861001] [reply]
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Chad Sexington icon NEW: The more they do that, the less receptive those teams will be to schedule them. (nm)
Chad Sexington - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:44 pm [ID# 1861002] [reply]
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o NEW: Reason 693 for Utah not to recruit players looking to go on missions. (nm)
annarborute - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 01:15 pm [ID# 1861006] [reply]
Red Don icon NEW: Sitake is, was and always will be a Zoob.
Red Don - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 02:03 pm [ID# 1861015] [reply]
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Maji Man icon NEW: Utes just lost Bolles because he's "getting too old for NFL" and has to support a kid before he graduated from college.
Maji Man - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:32 pm [ID# 1860997] [reply]
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o NEW: The flip side is we wouldn't have had that one year
cald22well - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 12:54 pm [ID# 1861003] [reply]
Maji Man icon NEW: So Bolles was mentally weak before his mission? I don't know him, so maybe.
Maji Man - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 02:08 pm [ID# 1861016] [reply]
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o NEW: Not to say he was mentally weak, but he had maturing to do.
cald22well - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 02:34 pm [ID# 1861022] [reply]
WV_Ute icon NEW: RE: Not to say he was mentally weak, but he had maturing to do.
WV_Ute - -- Wednesday 11 January 2017, at 12:48 pm [ID# 1861266] [reply]
o NEW: I think you hit the nail on the head.
cald22well - -- Wednesday 11 January 2017, at 03:25 pm [ID# 1861324] [reply]
Sandy Ute icon NEW: Wow Maji hates Mormons with a passion. (nm)
Sandy Ute - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 01:25 pm [ID# 1861009] [reply]
o NEW: What part of Maji Man's post was hating Mormons? Bolles is 25, he is old for the NFL. (nm)
UtesMuss1 - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 01:55 pm [ID# 1861013] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: All I know is that I am DAMN glad to have David Collette, period, end of story.
MinnesotaUte - -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 01:25 pm [ID# 1861008] [reply]
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The Thrill icon NEW: Well it's obviously not an end all be all advantage, BYU still can't get over the hump.
The Thrill - Top 25 Poster -- Tuesday 10 January 2017, at 03:11 pm [ID# 1861034] [reply]
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