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Oh, but the invisible hand market forces will correct the imbalances. People that buy tainted meat will die off and the vendors who sell it will go out of business. It's a self correcting mechanism, like the plague.

Posted By: pangloss
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:20 am

The same market forces would have worked for cars and the highway system if federal regulators had stayed out of it. People dumb enough to buy a Corvair or a car without seat-belts or collapsible steering columns or drive on dangerous roads would have died off.

And if demand for safe technology was strong enough then the market would deliver. It's a Darwinian, survival of the fittest, sort of thing.

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Hayes6 icon NEW: To all the board libertarians, have you read anything like The Jungle by Upton Sinclair?
Hayes6 - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 09:54 am [ID# 1832139] [reply]
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o NEW: Wouldn't you say that "It Can't Happen Here" is the more relevant work at this moment in time? (nm)
Duhwayne - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:02 am [ID# 1832142] [reply]
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o NEW: No matter what they say, what people want is a regulated government that spreads the wealth through putting restrictions on corps so the individual can compete. Oh, and unions that get you healthcare and a pension.
Ute2004 - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:05 am [ID# 1832143] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: No matter what people say, government does a lousy job of "spreading wealth" edit..add
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:53 am [ID# 1832152] [reply]
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rbentz icon NEW: Yes! It was an absolute paradise under Jimmy Carter. Said no one ever! (nm)
rbentz - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:01 am [ID# 1832154] [reply]
o NEW: Nice. Who said anything about Carter? Come on. Be better. (nm)
Ute2004 - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:20 pm [ID# 1832188] [reply]
rbentz icon NEW: You said we should get back to "pre-Reagan" so WTF did you mean? Carter was pre-Reagan, Or did you mean Ford, Nixon or Johnson? (nm)
rbentz - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:24 pm [ID# 1832189] [reply]
loyter icon NEW: Yeah! And let's definitely not elect a Whig either. Last time we did that, there was slavery, and no electricity. IS THAT WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT?!? (nm)
loyter - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:16 am [ID# 1832145] [reply]
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scratch icon NEW: I've had just about enough of your anti-Whig agenda. It's strangling this entire board. (nm)
scratch - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:40 am [ID# 1832150] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: Oh, but the invisible hand market forces will correct the imbalances. People that buy tainted meat will die off and the vendors who sell it will go out of business. It's a self correcting mechanism, like the plague.
pangloss - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:20 am [ID# 1832146] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: So your contention is that there is no safety equipment on cars except that mandated by the government?
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:55 am [ID# 1832153] [reply]
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o NEW: Get back when a car manufacturer willingly added seat belts to boost sales. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:05 am [ID# 1832155] [reply]
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BigBadUte icon NEW: You serious Clark?
BigBadUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:41 am [ID# 1832171] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: ^^^^^^^ (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:45 am [ID# 1832174] [reply]
o NEW: Sure. Just tell me the laws you want to keep and we can go from there. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:46 am [ID# 1832176] [reply]
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BigBadUte icon NEW: The only way that would work is if we removed every single law and start writing new ones.
BigBadUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:03 pm [ID# 1832182] [reply]
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o NEW: In other countries without regulations, GM has a car in the market with a Zero-Star safety rating.
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:07 am [ID# 1832159] [reply]
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pangloss icon NEW: But the people buying it are poor. Somehow that makes it OK. (nm)
pangloss - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:06 pm [ID# 1832183] [reply]
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Riot West icon NEW: Like Hillary voting to send poor kids to war? (nm)
Riot West - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:38 pm [ID# 1832195] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: I guess I missed that bill. (nm)
pangloss - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 01:01 pm [ID# 1832206] [reply]
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Riot West icon NEW: It's only a vote that's been tied to a war for a decade and a half.... (nm)
Riot West - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 04:48 pm [ID# 1832273] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: All that said, I might support a persons right to buy a car without all the safety features. The reduced cost might open up transportation to a whole new demographic.
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:21 am [ID# 1832162] [reply]
o NEW: Here's the problem with you libertarians - you like to think in hypotheticals instead of looking at actual history. When it comes to things like seatbelt laws or CFCs, laws fixed societal problems. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:48 am [ID# 1832177] [reply]
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REDrumU icon NEW: Because that hypothetical doesn't play out well for us my friend. That one person may see some benefit, but society then pays far more in collateral damage (disaster cleanup, disaster traffic, insurance, the list goes on). (nm)
REDrumU - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:52 am [ID# 1832179] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: It's a hypothetical for a reason, but even so I can defend that.
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:00 pm [ID# 1832180] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Another way to put your position is that you support a manufacturers right to sell unsafe cars to poor people.
pangloss - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:00 pm [ID# 1832181] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: If it were possible to prove that two things were true, would you still call it morally indefensible?
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:15 pm [ID# 1832185] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: well....
pangloss - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:57 pm [ID# 1832203] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I'm not asking you to accept any of it or take it on faith, I was only asking if you would reconsider if... (long)
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 01:32 pm [ID# 1832214] [reply]
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Texas_Ute_Fan icon NEW: Then please educate me on how the government mandated cafe standards (done to help solve a mythical problem that doesn't exist) make cars safer? (nm)
Texas_Ute_Fan - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 02:57 pm [ID# 1832236] [reply]
Chucker icon NEW: No way would I elect a Libertarian. With a seedy past like that thank goodness we have such upstanding politicians like the Republicans and the Democrats. (nm)
Chucker - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:37 am [ID# 1832148] [reply]
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o NEW: Believe it or not, there are things that are objectively worse than Republicans and Democrats. Complete disolution of the public sector is one of them. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:12 am [ID# 1832161] [reply]
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BigBadUte icon NEW: That didn't happen under Johnson in NM or Weld in MA. Why would that happen nationally? (nm)
BigBadUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:45 am [ID# 1832173] [reply]
o NEW: Just a guess, but there are federal regulations that states can't just side-step if they were to feel so inclined. (nm)
UteThunder - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:44 pm [ID# 1832198] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: I have read it, and I guess my counter point would be that prosperity kills that
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 10:50 am [ID# 1832151] [reply]
GUBA icon NEW: If a lack of government interference were the key element to free market economic success then Somalia should be the richest country in the world!! (nm)
GUBA - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:05 am [ID# 1832156] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: Please watch Poverty Inc, then come back and lets talk. Government interference is a HUGE problem in Africa. Just ask africans. Edit, ok it deserves more of an explanation than that.
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:07 am [ID# 1832158] [reply]
o NEW: Not in Somalia though, there's no functioning government. It's exactly what the anarcho-capitalists want.
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:09 am [ID# 1832160] [reply]
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UtahUte72 icon NEW: That's an absurd statement.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:40 am [ID# 1832170] [reply]
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MinnesotaUte icon NEW: ^^^^^^^ (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:44 am [ID# 1832172] [reply]
o NEW: In a society without government, how are warlords fundamentally different than capitalists that have amassed the largest group of "private security?" The outcome is the same, you just gave it a different name. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:46 am [ID# 1832175] [reply]
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BigBadUte icon NEW: " In a society without government" - your definition of the Libertarian Party (nm)
BigBadUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:12 pm [ID# 1832184] [reply]
o NEW: Just point me to a libertarian that wants and active and thriving military and police force and I'll rescind my post. (nm)
P-Worm - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 12:38 pm [ID# 1832196] [reply]
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BigBadUte icon NEW: U.S. Army Cavalry Scout, active duty, '90-'93, Schweinfurt Germany
BigBadUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 01:31 pm [ID# 1832213] [reply]
MinnesotaUte icon NEW: Not to you, for others benefit who may or may not be ignored by me: Warlord & Government = Force; Capitalist = Free Exchange. Is that really hard? (nm)
MinnesotaUte - -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:51 am [ID# 1832178] [reply]
UtahUte72 icon NEW: The problem is to strike a balance between reasonable regulations and market response.
UtahUte72 - Top 25 Poster -- Wednesday 13 July 2016, at 11:38 am [ID# 1832169] [reply]
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