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Other than your last statistic, I basically agree with everything you write.

Posted By: pangloss
Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 at 10:47 am

You write that "death by firearms is at 20 year low in the U.S.".

That is not correct.

Gun homicides are at a 20 year low. Total gun deaths are not decreasing or at a low point. They are increasing.

In 2011 total gun deaths in the US were the highest in the period from 1999 (the earliest I could find data quickly) to 2011. In 2011 gun deaths reached 32,163, couple hundred less than national highway deaths in 2011 which was 32,367.

I don't have the statistics for 2012, maybe they're not compiled yet, but I think it's a safe bet that gun deaths exceeded highway deaths in 2012 for the first time since the 30's.

In the late 60s the auto industry squawked about government intrusion when NHTSA imposed nominal safety measures like seat belts and collapsible steering columns. From 1966 to 1973 there were more than 50,000 highway deaths per year. Fortunately, society told the auto industry to STFU, ultimately got them on-board, and put a lot of effort into all aspects of highway safety. The deaths per 100,000 dropped from a peak of 26.6 in 1970 to 10.4 in 2011 (your federal Government at work). I didn't look for it, but I think the decline during that period of deaths per 1,000,000 miles driven is even more dramatic.

It's a good thing cars were not around when the Bill of Rights was written. If they had been some NASCAR loving patriot would have forced an Amendment through saying the right to drive any damned heap on the highways at any speed shall not be infringed. Congress probably would have just defeated an anemic effort to register cars.

citation: GunPolicy.org

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pangloss icon NEW: Speaking of politically incorrect.
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 09:34 am [ID# 1511175] [reply]
o NEW: So is the industry at fault? Is the five year old at fault? OR are the parents responsible for this horrible tragedy?
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 09:52 am [ID# 1511178] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Other than your last statistic, I basically agree with everything you write.
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 10:47 am [ID# 1511188] [reply]
o NEW: Pew Research Center has some Interesting findings
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:06 am [ID# 1511195] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: That's a sloppily written article by the KSL reporter - he conflates ''Gun-related deaths' with 'gun homicides' several times. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:15 am [ID# 1511197] [reply]
o NEW: Of course it's sloppy, it's KSL. However the Pew Research Center information is solid (nm)
FlyfishingUte - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:23 am [ID# 1511199] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: peace - agree. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:39 am [ID# 1511202] [reply]
HoopUte icon NEW: You are such a cynic. I like that about you. (short)
HoopUte - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 10:55 am [ID# 1511191] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: It's Monday and I have a hangover. (nm)
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:02 am [ID# 1511192] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: You've got to admit that Savage logo holds its own against the Wash Redskins logo in offensiveness.
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:10 am [ID# 1511196] [reply]
HoopUte icon NEW: I'm just glad their freezing of my pension and miniscule raises this year in the face of exceeding earnings estimates gave them the cash to expand the business (short)
HoopUte - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 11:49 am [ID# 1511203] [reply]
pangloss icon NEW: Some day, probably not in my work lifetime and maybe not in your's, but some day, maybe, the labor market will once again favor the working stiffs and we will be able to demand raises, increasing benefits, less bull $#!+, and more time off.
pangloss - -- Monday 13 May 2013, at 01:22 pm [ID# 1511214] [reply]
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