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Not that it's news, but Derik Stevenson is the definition of a zoob in every way. Derick honestly lives in a completely different reality than the rest of us.

by TheBaron
2014-10-24 14:39:16

A reality where the world waits with baited breath for BYU to fart and then declares the aroma "big time". A reality where BYU is a national powerhouse that happens to be down a little bit at the moment, but otherwise would receive an invite from every major conference in the country - if only the university presidents weren't all a bunch of dirty anti-Mormons. Why is the world full of so many anti-Mormons hell bent on holding back BYU from it's rightful place next to, but slightly above Alabama?! Utah got invited to the PAC-12 over BYU? ANTI-MORMONS EVERYWHERE! UGGHHHHH!

In Derik's reality, BYU beat an "average Texas team" and Utah beat "the worst Michigan team in decades", when both teams are currently sitting on a 3-4 record. Why does Derik call one 3-4 team "average" and the other "the worst in decades"? Oh yeah - BYU beat one of them while evil incarnate, Utah, beat the other. A good little zoobie makes sure to always spin and lie his ass off to cast God's one true university™ in the most flattering light possible, even if that means tearing down BYU's superiors in order to give the illusion of parity.

Like most zoobs, he calls every quality team Utah beats "overrated" or "terrible" and every mediocre to awful team that BYU beats "underrated" or a couple of bounces away from being ranked. I've seen a different zoob claim that BYU's squeaker at home against a mediocre Virginia team is the best win of any team in the state this season; no joke. He claimed that OSU is "terrible" and UCLA is "bad" and "criminally overrated". Yet when BYU was 4-0 after barely sneaking by bad teams and beating down a 3-4 Texas team that played BYU without 11 of their starters, zoobs argued that BYU should have been top 10 and was a strong candidate for the playoffs.

Derik calls out Bronco for his "arrogance", but then Derik takes personal credit for BYU's so-called "tradition", speaks as if glory and greatness are BYU's birthrights, and repeatedly calls Utah State a "glorified high school". Of course, he does these things while failing to see even a shred of irony. He doesn't see his own arrogance because he genuinely believes that BYU is a tradition rich power program being embarrassed by Bronco's failure to match BYU's prior glory.

That is Derik's - and most zoobs - biggest problem. They honestly think BYU used to be big time. In truth, BYU was 2007 Hawaii, and, like Hawaii, they only did it ONE YEAR EVER. Unlike Hawaii, it happened 30 years ago. 30 years! Other than that, BYU's glory years weren't much different from what BYU is right now - a decent mid-major program that almost never played against teams with a pulse, usually lost - often in a blow out - whenever they did play a quality opponent, and spent most of the time racking up wins against terrible teams.

The reason they went 19-2 against Utah during a 21 year stretch wasn't because BYU was a powerhouse; it was because Utah was at its all-time nadir and the Utes had a hard time beating even the aforementioned terrible teams that BYU was beating up on, let alone beating the pride of the WAC. Speaking of which...

When your claim to fame is being the best team in the WAC for a couple of decades, after the two best teams in the WAC bolted for greener pastures, you don't have a claim to fame. You are nothing. In reality, BYU isn't at a low point right now - they are near their historical apex. Right now is about as good as BYU has ever been. In 1984, BYU didn't play a single team as good as 2014 USU or Nevada.

The "greatness" of BYU under LaVell was about exploiting a novel and exotic offensive scheme to beat up on inferior competition and then crow about how they would totally beat the best of the best, if only they got a shot at them. BYU is college football's Uncle Rico. They are the original Boise State - beat up on terrible teams in the WAC after the WAC's best teams left for greener pastures. Both programs even got lucky on a couple of special QB recruits. The similarities are uncanny, except for Boise comes out looking about 100 times more impressive. If you compare their best wins and their overall records, BYU comes out looking like Boise-lite rather than vice versa.

Zoobs think BYU is big time. The ignorant watching from afar think they are a has-been. The educated know that they are a never-was. Derik is a zoob, and hubris like his could complete BYU's regression to the mean, returning them to what they always were without LaVell or Bronco - a regional punching bag.

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BYU athletic programs should go the way of Ricks College athletic programs. Then Bronco will have completed his quest for irrelevance.

by Mevsauce
2014-10-24 16:11:44

You know you have run out of positive ambassadorship when Max Hall has a drug arrest, alumni are writing articles about how bad your program is (and cussing out people who disagree with them on Twitter), you've got a losing record in the MWC, and you trot out Jim McMahon as a paragon of BYU's virtues. All that in one season. The same season that started with this:

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Yes, here he is. All class.

by scratch
2014-10-24 13:40:59

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All of this TDSFAN banter the day before we play a PAC 12 game that is going to define us on the national landscape????

by Greginslc
2014-10-24 16:10:57

Ok, every game we will play for the rest of this season will define this season. Beating the University of Spoiled Children is a step we need to make happen if we want to get back in the discussion of winning the PAC 12 South, the PAC 12 Championship, or the NCG Playoffs. If we can win out we can get there; but it all starts tomorrow with the Trojan Enz.

This other school you speak of who is in full meltdown is getting ready to lose to the Tater Zoobs on the Smurf Turf. To discuss them is to give them relevance. They are not relevant and never will be relevant again. Yes, it is a fiery pile of $#!+ on our doorstep, we just don't need to step in it on our way to more important matters.

GO UTES!!!!

RIP THE TROJAN ENZ!!!!

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BYU defense parody

by Hammer
2014-10-24 20:14:19

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Instituting a new term: "byu bro"

by UofUSportsGuy
2014-10-24 13:52:26

Occasionally known as 'jack mormon', byu bro is the guy who doesn't mind cursing, will drink, smoke and shoot the $#!+. The problem is, for some reason he has an undying love affair with all byu sports. What he doesn't realize is that byu 'the institution' ( and by association their sports teams) doesn't love him back because of byu bros habits (i.e, breaking the word of wisdom will keep you out of the club, bro).

Some of these 'bros' used to be athletes, and then they realized they're better at just being every day fans. The problem with this, is the encapsulate all the illogical fallacies of being a cougar fan - they curse, they drink and when their team loses, they throw unnecessary bitch fits.

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Alamo officials will be in town tomorrow

by Utes-and-Horns4ever
2014-10-24 16:02:53

I'd love that bowl, I'd love any bowl lets be honest... Just win baby!!!!!!!!!!!

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Welp, never thought I would utter these words, but well done BYU Honor Code Office, well done.

by TheRealU
2014-10-24 15:10:14



And no, this isn't the real HC Office, but still made me laugh.

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I feel kinda bad for our big brothers to the south of us. F

by UTEOF
2014-10-24 23:02:09

Feels sorry-hahahahahahahaha. Big brother-hehehehehehehehe. When I hear of those clowns saying this year is just a prep year for 2015 it reminds me of the years in the 40s to 60s. It was "wait until next year". That "next year" just never came. I'm not usually vitriolic and hate no individual, but I hate tds and I'm happy when they fail. I've heard since 1947 that "you can't be a good Mormon and go to Utah" and my kids got it when we came back from Oklahoma. We all still hear that from tds fans now.

End of rant.

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sorry he couldn't get into the U law school . . . .

by jockohomo
2014-10-24 19:08:44

Major props to him for enduring Provo for 3 years.

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does tds still want Bama?

by UtesMuss1
2014-10-24 15:47:10

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Fortunately, we don't play them right now.

by loyter
2014-10-24 21:37:20

And, we have Utah's defense, not Cal's.

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My favorite parts of the article:

by KyleWouldDoIt
2014-10-24 13:37:07

The great culture that is BYU Football has taken some serious blows. The team is currently, officially the third best program in the state.


This guy sounds like another zoob who is in need of a history lesson. What Roscoe is doing isn't a "serious blow" to BYU's football program...it's actually a return to the normal & expected performance. Too many zoobs (like this guy) think that what Lavell did was the norm. Actually, Lavell's performance was an exceptionally positive outlier. What Bronco is doing is about the same as what Gary Crowton, Tommy Hudspeth, Hal Kopp, and the others (minus Lavell) did.

During the season, and especially the night before the game, we always wanted to be focused on kicking someone’s ass, and not discussing the Allegory of the Olive Tree from 2nd Nephi


The allegory of the olive tree is in Jacob, not 2nd Nephi. I know that and I went to that heathen school in SLC. I never attended a BYU religion class, much less 4 years of them. Maybe BYU football players' religion classes were UNC-style "paper classes".

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