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Memo to bicyclists in SLC you are considered a vehicle and subject to things like stop signs etc

by FlyfishingUte
2015-07-05 10:02:02

So when you blaze through a stop sign at 20 mph and get t boned by a car you will get little sympathy from me. Memo to the clown that almost hit me today. You and your 10 lb bike will always be on the losing end in a collision with a 5000 lb SUV. That collision with the curb when you swerved to miss the back end of my truck looked like it hurt.

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why do you insist of visiting them and then regurgitating their dogma here?

by FlyfishingUte
2015-07-05 15:39:30

There's got to be better ways for you to spend your time. They are trying to get a reaction. You gave it to them. Well done

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Memo to cyclists...

by The Thrill
2015-07-05 12:55:28

If you want to be treated like a vehicle, then act like one. Stop at red lights, don't weave through stopped traffic, stay off the sidewalk, stop at stop signs, use some signals, watch out for merging traffic, watch out at intersections, etc...

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After living in the bicycle capital of the US for 11 years here are some observations I have of SLC cyclists over the last 8 months

by PDXUtefan
2015-07-05 15:15:27

SLC cyclists are totally oblivious to the laws THEY have to follow. As was mentioned, they do not yield nor do they stop at stop signs and lights in a lot of cases. On my daily commute up to the U I see a lot of cyclists. My commute consists of a mix of 25-35mph roads, mostly one lane, with lots of stop signs, lights, and 3 school zones (with TONS of crosswalks). In my 8+ months I have yet to see one single cyclist stop at a stop sign. Not. One. They ALL blaze through stop signs uninhibited and it's a miracle I haven't seen a cyclist get hit or t-bone a car. This is the one thing that absolutely drives me nuts about SLC cyclists, at least in Portland they are smart enough to obey the vehicle laws which require cyclists to also stop at stop signs and lights.

Next, crosswalks. Holy $#!+, I can't tell you how many times I've seen cyclists fail to yield to pedestrians at crosswalks and get in collisions/near collisions. Cyclists, if you see a car stop at a crosswalk then YOU need to stop at the crosswalk as well. Just because you weigh 150 pounds and the car weighs 2 tons doesn't mean you are exempt from stopping for pedestrians. I've already seen more pedestrians get hit by cyclists in 8 months here than I did in 11 years in Portland. And there are WWAAAYYYYYYY more cyclists in Portland (and people on foot). Open your damn eyes and obey the crosswalk yielding laws.

Lastly, bike lanes. Portland has a ton of bike lanes and it makes it convenient and safe for cyclists there. SLC is adding more bike lanes, I'd say about half my commute has them. There are stretches of my commute which don't and are dangerous for cyclists and I do my best to give them lots of clearance. It sucks riding on a road with cars going 40 mph and having to worry about some idiot absent minded driver running your ass over. But when you have a bike lane you need to do 2 things: 1) to the absolute best of your ability you need to stay in that bike lane, I can't tell you how many times I've had to dodge a cyclist because he/she would ride in and out of bike lane for absolutely no reason at all. 2) When there is a bike lane you absolutely must NOT ride side by side. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing 2 or more cyclists riding side by side down a bike lane and blocking part of the vehicle lane. And then get pissed when a driver gives them a honk to get back in their bike lane. It's dangerous and it's totally unnecessary.

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A cyclist died just the other night on 700 south doing exactly that.

by Homer_Crimson
2015-07-05 15:13:23

Ran the stop sign crossing 900 east and t-boned a car. DOA. I use both modes and my pet peeves are drivers that don't understand how to "share" the road and/or cut me off w/o signaling, and cyclists that use the sidewalk and treat crosswalks as if they were a pedestrian. When I'm turning, I'm looking for a pedestrian stepping into the walk before I go. Don't give me the stinkeye because I didn't see you barreling up at 20 mph on the sidewalk and had to slam on the brakes so you could fly by without slowing.

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Sweeping generalization, yes. However, more accurate than not. Bikers (of the pedaling persuasion) demand but don't give respect...

by BaldHatu
2015-07-05 15:35:37

Bikers routinely ride up on red lights bypassing traffic; routinely ride side by side on the roads; routinely blow traffic lights; routinely blow stop signs.

They have a right to the road for sure. However, they cannot selectively apply right to the road and disregard for the road. That happens too often.

I rode a bike (engine kind) and agree that you need to keep your head on a swivel. I stopped riding when I realized I would lose any battle with a car. That said - I never took liberties on a bike that peddlers do.

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logic fail. I reacted to your post because you seem to have a fixation on them and what they have to say.

by FlyfishingUte
2015-07-05 15:49:50

From my perspective their opinions are about as relevant as an amoeba

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There's a certain minority of them that act and ride as if they are the only ones around

by FlyfishingUte
2015-07-05 10:20:02

I often wonder if they drive their cars that way This guy made no effort to stop. He was going to blaze right through that stop sign. I did pull over. He got up and rode off. I suspect he had some road rash.

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I've heard of Led Zeppelins, but Led balloons?

by Homer_Crimson
2015-07-05 14:54:15

Yeah, who can forget "Cowboy Night" at RES?

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I know what type of cyclist he's talking about

by Samak
2015-07-05 15:40:30

The Lance Armstrong wannabes clad in spandex with bikes more expensive than some cars. They're usually dudes 20-40 years old or so and with their bike racks on their Audis or BMWs. They expect everyone -- cars and people on foot -- to get the hell out of their way. I've been screamed at by cyclists more than once for being in their way even in a crosswalk ... bike rage.

I live in Colorado and there are a lot of these types in the Denver area. Cycling's popular here. But unlike in Utah (alternating days in Millcreek canyon for example), almost all the trails and paths out here are shared all the time so you can't really get away from them. I don't even bother going out on like on holidays when there's a lot of bike traffic because I don't want to get ran down.

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Memo to motorists in SLC bicycles are considered vehicles and therefore you are subject to treat us as vehicles

by KyleWouldDoIt
2015-07-05 12:29:28

Since bicycles are legally vehicles, let me remind you of a few laws that apply to your interaction with bicycles (and all other vehicles):
- As a vehicle operator, the cyclist is totally within his rights to ride in the traffic lane. Most cyclists will stay on/near the shoulder because we don't want to hold up traffic and we know how annoying that is to drivers (most of us are drivers too). But if the cyclist doesn't feel safe on the shoulder, he can be as far into the lane as necessary.
- Of course, you understand how silly it is to yell "get on the sidewalk!" as you pass, because obviously bicycles are vehicles and vehicles are not allowed on the sidewalk.
- Just like if you're behind a car that's not going as fast as you like, if you're behind a cyclist and there's not 3 feet available to pass, guess what? You can't pass. If passing the bike would force you to cross a double yellow line, guess what? You can't pass. The laws of passing apply to all vehicles you're passing, and as you said, bicycles are a vehicle.

So let's remember, the (true) statement that bicycles are a vehicle also requires drivers to adjust their way of thinking about bicycles.

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