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    Pro tip: Just about anywhere you travel in the world you are going to encounter mores and things that are taboo.

    by Rocker Ute
    2015-01-28 19:45:45

    Rather than being an ugly American, learn to respect people's boundaries.

    This sort of thing is hardly exclusive to Mormon culture and Mormons do stupid things in this regard too.

    A few years ago some stupid Mormon missionaries in Colorado went and took mocking pictures of themselves with some statues the local Catholic community found sacred. Other stupid missionaries in Thailand took pictures of themselves sitting on top of a Budhha statue. Both parties probably had an idea that these things were sacred to others to some extent, but because they weren't sacred to them, they did these foolish things.

    Short story is in both cases it got a lot of people very upset. Just because something isn't sacred to you doesn't mean it isn't to someone else. And you may not have religious sensitivities, but there are certainly things for you that are off-limits for mockery. It might be your mom, it might be your kids or something else.

    One more 'treading on sacred ground' story involving even more stupid Mormon missionaries and had nothing to do with religion. You may recall ill-advised missionaries in SLC who climbed Mt Olympus and cemented a flag pole at the top. Treading on protected wilderness was sacred ground to a lot of people and their actions were very offensive to many in the area.

    The appropriate thing to do is to offer sincere apology and move on, instead of continuing to push the button. It is because of this and your history of comments that I doubt your sincerity in both your apology and your actual knowledge of what a 'lightning rod' it would be to post pictures in mockery of LDS temple ceremonial clothing and garments.

    But hey, I'm willing to hit the reset button if you are. So drop it and move on and we can all treat each other with a little more respect, no?

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    by SforkUte
    2015-01-28 19:39:01

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    Just my thoughts.

    by 480ute
    2015-01-28 18:16:56

    I spend a lot of time on utefans. I love the sports talk, and I value the political and religious discussions. I obviously have strong views when it comes to the latter two mixing, but I enjoy debating with people from the other side of the aisle.

    There have been some spirited arguments over Mormon doctrine the past couple of days. The issues that are being discussed are important, and the ultimate outcome vital to the wellbeing of a large group of citizens. It seems like I've said this a million times today, but ridiculing somebody's faith is detrimental to one side of the debate. I cannot think of a quicker way to shut down communication than by trashing your opponent.

    You have the right to offend people, and folks have the right to be offended. My question is what purpose does ridiculing them serve? It's trollish behavior, and beyond stemming the tide of equality it is now driving off good posters. Again, you have the right to do as you wish just please think about this before you post silly pictures aimed at half our fanbase.

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    RE: You should know that wearing an extra pair of clothes makes a person thin skinned %)

    by Utefan79
    2015-01-28 15:03:46

    There is a difference between being thin skinned and standing up for something someone holds sacred

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    I don't think its the vocal majority

    by njute
    2015-01-28 20:08:05

    There are a few posters, yourself included, who take every opportunity to snipe at and belittle the LDS church. As a result many active LDS posters have quietly chosen to move on.

    I personally don't need the aggravation of people making fun of my beliefs, and find myself visiting the board less and less. I am not alone.

    It's really too bad because I enjoy the humor, insight, knowledge and compassion of the majority who post here.

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    And some things require a bold and direct response.

    by Wildcat
    2015-01-28 15:20:00

    Take something that you hold exceptionally dear and near to your heart and have it be publicly mocked, intentional or unintentional, and let's see how you respond.

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    I think you are on point. Most people can enjoy some good natured ribbing, I as a Mormon love making fun of Mormons. But a lot of stuff recently has gone far beyond the bounds of good natured ribbing or even respectful criticism, IMO.

    by Rocker Ute
    2015-01-28 15:22:13

    People can have problems with my religion or belief system or lack thereof and that is fine. Chances are I probably have problems with your religion and belief system too. But I also understand that a lot of things are near and dear to peoples heart and in this case sacred.

    I've always tried to be respectful of other people and their beliefs. I'm far from perfect, but it would be nice if a modicum of respect was reciprocated.

    These purported 'licenses to ridicule' because you don't agree with someone don't actually exist and do nothing but steel people's resolve too.

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    I had no idea that calling someone a prick would be such a lightning rod. Apologies to all those offended.

    by Rocker Ute
    2015-01-28 15:24:24

    But to answer your question, you are absolutely right. I still don't care.

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    i hate that he literallhy stands two feet onto the court the entire game, no matter if the ball is on that side or not.

    by mr_urson
    2015-01-28 22:40:15

    i wish a player would truck his ass. but he is without a doubt one of the best coaches in college.

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    Timeout for remembrance-

    by Homer_Crimson
    2015-01-28 18:34:34

    Partisan types just scroll past the Obama message really fast...

    NASA day of remembrance

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    I thought that was a fictional Key and Peele player. No?

    by Tacoma Ute
    2015-01-28 20:02:11

    Just kidding. He would be a major acquisition.

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    You would be wise to think before you post...

    by Converted Coug
    2015-01-28 19:57:29

    Or stop posting altogether. Consider the audience.

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