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    The Big Lead has an amusing article

    by Ute in DC
    2016-07-26 07:04:24

    Every Big 12 Expansion Option Stinks, There Is No Point Doing It

    BYU: The Cougars have a notable football team. No one wants to deal with a private religious institution that thinks it is Notre Dame and manifestly is not. If their brand were valuable, independence would be working and they would be the ones fending off the Big 12 and the Pac 12.

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    Position Preview: LBs

    by afro14
    2016-07-26 09:59:11

    Linebacker is the most uncertain position on the team right now, since Utah needs to replace two of the best linebackers it's ever had, namely Jared Norris and Gionni Paul. The good news is the team has officially gone to a 4-2-5 defense and doesn't need as much depth at lnebacker as it did in the past. Here's a look at some of the names we will become familiar with this season.

    Cody Barton- 6'2", 232 lbs, SO
    Barton, the brother of offensive tackle Jackson Barton, played safety in high school but was quickly converted to linebacker upon arriving at Utah. Barton didn't see any reps at linebacker last year, but he did play in 12 games on special teams. Watching him in spring practice left me impressed, he reminded me a lot of Jared Norris with the way he moves and tackles, although I think his lateral quickness may be better than Norris's is. Barton should see plenty of playing time this year.

    Sunia Tauteoli- 6'0", 220 lbs, JR
    Tauteoli made a name for himself in spring practice after only playing a very small amount last year. He finished spring camp at the top of the linebacker depth chart and earned praise from the coaches. What I saw from Tauteoli in spring was promising. He had a few spectacular plays (tackles for loss, pass breakups, sacks, etc), but what I liked the most was that he was assignment sound, and didn't miss many, if any tackles. Tauteoli will play the "Mac" spot, meaning he'll be in the middle mostly, and I doubt we'll see him rushing off the edge very much.

    David Luafatasaga- 6'4", 232 lbs, JR
    A 4 star JUCO recruit, Luafatasaga was perhaps the biggest recruiting victory for Utah this season, as they flipped him from a commitment to Ole Miss when they were in desperate need of linebacker. Luafatasaga is expected to immediately contribute, his film shows him to be a really good pass rusher, along with having the lateral speed to chase down running backs and receivers close to the line. What I like most about him is he appears to be very good at identifying where a play is going and can quickly move to where he needs to be to plug up a gap or run down a ball carrier. Luafatasaga is going to be one of the best linebackers we've seen at Utah in a while.

    Donavan Thompson- 5'10", 214 lbs, FR
    Thompson was another good addition to the freshman class. Hailing from Miami, Thompson's film reminds me a lot of Gionni Paul. He's not the biggest guy on the field, but he is a playmaker and a hard hitter. He needs to put on some weight and ideally grow an inch or two more, so he'll likely redshirt this season, but he's athletic and smart, and should be a good contributor to the team in the future.

    Christian Drews- 6'1", 230 lbs, JR
    Drews, a walk on, enters fall camp as the number 2 Mac linebacker behind Tauteoli. He played in all thirteen games last year on special teams. Drews should see some time on defense this year, but I don't expect him to get a ton of snaps. He had a nice spring camp, but isn't as fast as some of the other guys around him, although he is a solid tackler.

    Davir Hamilton- 6'3", 208 lbs, FR
    Hamilton is already a fan favorite, as he did a lot of recruiting of his own for the Utes after committing last summer. Never did he waver on his commitment, he shut his recruiting down after receiving the Utah offer, even when he received an offer from his hometown school of UCLA. He played both ways in high school and is fast enough to play receiver as well, so his position is not settled yet, although ideally the coaches would like him to beef up and play linebacker. Watching his highlights, I'm reminded of another Utah great who showed up kind of skinny but grew into his body in college, and that guy is Stevenson Sylvester.

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    Do you have more of these?

    by ocgreg
    2016-07-26 15:09:22

    If so, can you please forward to:


    Before 09/03.


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    OK, maybe I missed it. Please correct my misconception with 'content'.

    by pangloss
    2016-07-26 15:49:32

    From what I've read, the DNC email reveals the staff favored Clinton over Sanders. The email doesn't reveal they did anything about it. The email does not reveal illegal money flowing to or from the Clinton campaign. The email does not reveal conspiracies to violate campaign finance laws. The email does not reveal any DNC dirty tricks like Nixon's old CREEP. If I missed something, please provide a citation or link.

    I understand your request to get past the Russian issue. I remember the last time information was stolen from the DNC. If a tie between Mr. Trump and the Russian hack is established, it will make Watergate look like a speeding ticket.

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    by wolandmd
    2016-07-26 15:28:21

    Can we get past the Russians are trying to take over rhetoric and deal with the content in front of us? You guys sound like Donna Brazile, ie getting caught is the worse than the crime.

    Despite the conspiracy theories and hate for the left's new W, the dems have been exposed. Everyone knew they were corrupt, now it is fun to see the evidence, the incestuous relatonships with media, the creative campaign finance laundering (is this going to be addressed along with Citizens United?). Hill-Dog is a hot mess. Big shocker, the dnc is not interested in improving the socioeconomic status of hispanics or other URMs, rather consolidating power through capturing voter blocks.

    For all the clamoring for transparency from Hillary and the collective left, why do y'all go to such lengths to AVOID it? Good god, practice what you preach #%!@ing hypocrites.

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    The leak doesn't just show they favored Clinton, it shows that the DNC was actually acting as an arm of the Clinton campaign.

    by P-Worm
    2016-07-26 16:26:28

    Rolling Stone

    The most disturbing part of this whole thing was how the DNC used the Hillary Victory Fund to funnel money from rich donors to the Clinton campaign. This fund was supposed to be for down-ballot races, but down-ballot races received less than 1% of the donation. Even further, the money was actively being used to fight against Sanders. It's the closest you can get to political donation money laundering without it actually being illegal.

    Further, the emails reveal the DNC tied with the largest media organizations to try and hush all of this up. In comical irony, the emails reveal players at the DNC trying to go on news outlets to try an squash the money laundering angle, but have a hard time finding someone they can trust because they have screwed so many people in down-ballot races.

    Let's be clear. None of this was illegal and no one will sniff prosecution over this (sorry Hillary haters), but this is not nothing. It's blatant corruption in one of the major political parties and shrugging our shoulders and pretending like it doesn't matter will just encourage this as future behavior.

    Full disclosure: I will be holding my nose and voting for Clinton this November because although I can't stand the corruption Clinton is tangled up in, President Trump literally scares the s*** out of me.

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    RE: The Big Lead has an amusing article

    by Larry B
    2016-07-26 09:07:12

    I imagine the Big12 is looking at their expansion candidates much like most Americans are looking at the presidential candidates. Just like "really?... these are our options?..."

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    The deaf culture can be very cliquey.

    by daedalus
    2016-07-26 16:55:30

    I won't get too deep into it but for the deaf, the avenues for social interaction narrow to those they can communicate with, e.g. other deaf people. My own experiences with the Utah Association for the Deaf left me mostly an outsider (I can hear with a hearing aid, and never learned ASL), but my deaf grandmother was a daily visitor and proud member of the Association.

    In ASL, my own category is "hard of hearing" rather than "deaf". Doesn't bother me, but that's part of how the culture categorizes its own members. Also a big debate existed between those who learned to speak (badly) and those who sign only.

    "Hearing impaired" is something some wimp made up for PC purposes, I usually only hear it in the context of "The following program is close-captioned for the hearing impaired." Nobody in the deaf community really uses it, the sign for "deaf" is easier.

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    Nothing to see here. The main problem with these emails, is Having Hillary's name attached to the story about email. She cannot get away from the Email Story

    by Basketball Junkie
    2016-07-26 17:18:24

    DNC member killing horses for insurance money.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 578
    DNC making fun of black womans name.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 17942
    DNC telling each other, “I love you too. no homo.”
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 425
    DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 6107
    DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 12450
    DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7102
    DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 4776
    DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a “rigged system.”
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 8806
    DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 13762
    Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 8351
    DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz having an off the record meeting in MSNBC President Phil Griffin’s office.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 8867
    DNC being messed with by the Washington Examiner.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 5304
    DNC discussing Hillary’s policies as unfeasible.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 519
    $200k for a private dinner with Hillary.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 17287
    Offering to send interns out to fake a protest against the RNC.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 13366
    Faking outrage and pasting in a video later.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7102
    A mole working inside of the Sanders campaign.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7793
    Bringing up Sanders religion to scare the southern voters.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 11508
    Possible money laundering by moving money back and forth to bypass legal limits.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 6230
    Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 10808
    DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 4077
    Creating a fake job ad for a Trump business to paint him as a sexist.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 12803
    Hillary funding 2 million dollars in a cooridanted campaign in battleground states to win back the Senate.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7784
    DNC is upset that their “allies” didn’t send in protestors so they sent out interns.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 13366
    “Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general.”
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 8351
    $50,000 – Lawrence Benenson.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 14700
    Daily Fundraising Report for the DNC.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 2875
    Content & Social Strategy Discussion.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7512
    Re: BuzzFeed and DNC connection.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 10933
    Draft linking news articles about trump to use as negative press.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7586
    Fwd: State Dinner Countdown.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 1901
    Some chick is angry she hasn’t been given more stuff from the Obama administration…might be interesting to follow up.
    Re: State Dinner Countdown.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 2946
    Tim O’Brien: Trump’s Fixation on Inflating his Net Worth is a Cause for Concern.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 4496
    RE: May Fundraising Numbers.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 5615
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 7720
    Hillary for America Raised $26.4 Million in April, Began May with More than $30 Million Cash on Hand.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 13986
    Re: For approval: Trump supporter graphics.
    https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emai lid/788
    Press talking points, states Hillary is their candidate, dated May 5, 2016. More of a smoking gun than the ambiguous talk in the emails themselves.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5 254/2728
    Consultant calling megyn kelly a bimbo. Has PDF attached that says the same.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 6087
    DNC trying to get away with violating the Hatch Act.
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 20148
    Democrats using interns to organize fake “protests.”
    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/ 13830
    RE: Action on DNC tomorrow (Immigration Raids).
    https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emai lid/9736</blockquote>

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    Anybody into horror movies?

    by 480ute
    2016-07-26 17:56:20

    I loved them when I was a kid, but kinda lost interest over the years. My kids have gotten me back into them the past year or so, and there have been some great ones released during that time. Oculus, Sinister, As Above So Below, and The Babadook were fantastic. Hollywood has really upped the ante on nightmarish films.

    We went to see the new Conjuring movie a couple of weeks ago, and while the story and dialogue are pretty weak the special effects and overall creepiness are top notch. I'm not really a blood and guts guy, more into the supernatural eerie type flicks, and this one delivered. Definitely looking forward to catching Lights Out this weekend. The shorts that inspired it were superb. Anyway, just thought I'd give some attention to a genre that is normally ignored here, and see if there's any interest from others.

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    We've noticed

    by ocgreg
    2016-07-26 15:17:18


    FTFO, anyway.

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    So there's this deep blue hole in the South China Sea.

    by Chad Sexington
    2016-07-26 09:03:12

    Turns out, it's the deepest one ever found, or at least currently known. It's just under a thousand feet deep. The locals call it the Dragon Hole, but it's official name is "Longdong."

    My inner 12 year old approves of this entire story.

    Is that your name or your need?

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